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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 19:46:07
March 04 2012 08:12 GMT
#1
And I got bored so here's some possibilities on who will face who at the Semi-Playoffs, as well as the teams that will advance to the Playoffs and finals.

Ranking atm:

1. Samsung Khan 12-7 +6
2. SK Telecom T1 11-8 +12
3. KT Rolster 11-8 +11
4. Woongjin Stars 11-9 -3
5. CJ Entus 10-9 +3
6. STX SouL 9-11 -7
7. Team 8 7-11 -6
8. Airforce ACE 5-13 -18

As of right now, STX SouL, Team 8, and Airforce ACE have been eliminated and there's no way these teams will qualify for the playoffs (every team plays 21 games. STX SouL's best record, as well as Team 8's, could be 10-11 at this point, which will be still lower than current 4th place's (Stars) record in terms of win/loss).

Now, we only have 5 teams left.

1. Samsung Khan.

Although Khan's leading at the moment with 12-7, they still have two matches to go. They're against Team 8 and Woongjin stars. Given that, if they win one more game they will secure a place in playoffs. If they lose both games with 0:3, then they will be TIED with Woongjin Stars (because if Khan loses 0:3 both games, it means they're down to +0. If Stars win with that score, they're also back up to +0, which means they will be tied).

Bare Minimum For Playoffs: Khan wins one set, secures playoff (see the worst case scenario for explanation).

Worst case scenario: Khan loses twice 0:3, ties with Stars and CJ wins both games while SKT and KT wins at lease once, putting Khan in 4~5 spot with Stars (In this case, I don't know what happens but I'm pretty sure Khan will lose their spot in playoffs, or have a wildcard match or something).


2. SK Telecom T1

SK Telecom T1 has 2 games left: one against Airforce ACE and one against Team 8. Since their difference is +12, one win can put them in a playoff spot (even if CJ goes +6, that is +9 at maximum for CJ. SK Telecom T1, if they win once, can go down to at least +10 (+1 then -3), but not further below). If SK Telecom T1 loses both games, then it will depend on Stars, CJ, and KT's record to see if SK Telecom can advance or not.

Bare Minimum For Playoffs: SK Telecom T1 wins once, secures playoff.

Worst case scenario: SK Telecom T1 drops both games, putting them in 11-10 while Stars win their last match and CJ wins both of their matches, putting SKT below both teams. THEN they need KT to lose both games respectively and make sure that the total difference is higher than KT's.

3. KT Rolster

Similar situation with KT Rolster, though they need to watch out a little bit more if CJ goes +6 as they might be tied with CJ Entus if KT ends up with -2 in their last 2 matches (given that KT wins and loses, or vice versa). If they win twice, they secure a playoff position as Stars and CJ both have 9 losses. If they win and then lose with only -1 difference for both games or higher, they secure a spot. If they lose both games, it depends on how well CJ, Stars, and SKT does.

Bare Minimum For Playoffs: KT Rolster wins once and have difference of -1 or higher in last 2 games, secures playoff.

Worst case scenario: KT Rolster drops both games, putting them in 11-10 while Stars win their last match and CJ wins both of their matches, putting KT below both teams. THEN they need SKT to lose both games respectively and make sure that the total difference is higher than SKT's.

4. Woongjin Stars

This is where it gets interesting. Stars is in a huge trouble. Although they lead CJ Entus in terms of win/loss, their difference is -3. Stars have one final battle against Samsung Khan this season, and they need to win that game in order to have a good chance at going to playoffs. If they win, CJ has to lose one match and/or KT or SKT have to drop both of their games in order for a playoff spot. If they lose, CJ NEEDS to lose both of their games. HOWEVER, if CJ wins twice, Stars need to depend on KT or SKT to drop both games because they will fall behind CJ in terms of win/loss ratio. In this scenario, Stars HAVE to win against Khan. If KT or SKT goes 1-1, they will have same record as Stars. However, since the biggest difference you can get from 1-1 is -2 and since both KT and SKT are in double digits while Stars can only bring up their difference to +0, Stars need KT and/or SKT to lose both of their remaining matches.

Bare Minimum For Playoffs: Stars win against Khan, THEN CJ loses once and/or KT/SKT loses both of their games.

Worst case scenario: Stars loses, CJ HAS to lose both of their games in order to have a chance.

Worst case scenario 2: Stars wins but CJ wins both of their remaining games. Stars need KT or SKT to drop both games or they're out.

5. CJ Entus

CJ Entus, although behind on rankings, can catch up to Stars pretty quickly since they have two matches to go (instead of Stars, since they only have one match left). Best case scenario is that they win twice; that will put them in a playoff spot easily. If they lose one of two games, Stars needs to lose their game against Khan or it's over for CJ Entus. However, if CJ loses twice it's completely over (10-11 in record while Stars' worst case scenario is 11-10). Now, why did I say that CJ can win twice to secure a spot in playoffs? Let's look at the difference. Though Stars is leading CJ, they have -3 while CJ has +3. This means that if CJ wins twice, the worst possible difference they can end up with is +5 (+1 then -1). Stars, on the other hand, can only end up at +0 (3:0 against Khan). Similar situation with one win one loss situation for CJ and Stars losing against Khan. If they win once but drop one, they can go down to +1, but not any further. Stars, on the other hand, will stay at negative numbers, giving up their spot to CJ Entus. SK Telecom T1 and KT Rolster can also fall below CJ if either one of the teams lose twice then CJ wins twice, but SKT and KT needs to lose huge in both games and CJ needs to win big in both games (talking about complete shutouts here). However, since Khan has only +3, they can fall easily below CJ if they drop both games (CJ can only go up from +3, while Samsung goes down from +6 with same 12-9 record if CJ wins twice and Khan loses twice. That means Samsung, at most, will have +4 while CJ, at least, will have +5). Realistically, CJ still has a chance on securing a playoff spot.

Bare Minimum For Playoffs: CJ wins twice, secures playoff spot no matter how well Stars does at the end of the season.

Worst case scenario: CJ loses twice, will not qualify for playoffs.

What's more interesting in this race, is that all of the remaining matches are playoff-hopefuls versus knocked out teams, with the exception of Samsung Khan vs Woongjin Stars.

I've never seen any race this close in Proleague until now. Not one team has secured a playoff position as of this moment, and no team is safe from getting eliminated. It's going to be interesting few days, as post-season begins on the 17th with the last game being played out on the 14th.

Disclaimer: I wrote this very quickly without any charts, graphs, or whatsoever. If you need more clarifications, find any mistakes in the possible situations as well as ones that weren't explored, or have anything to add to this in general please feel free to comment.
ppp
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 04 2012 08:14 GMT
#2
I shall be supporting CJ.
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
March 04 2012 08:19 GMT
#3
I too shall be supporting CJ. I just really hope they can make it far into it though
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KivTM
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia90 Posts
March 04 2012 08:20 GMT
#4
Ahh, since T8 didn't make it, I guess I'll be supporting Samsung.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 04 2012 08:23 GMT
#5
if khan loses one and skt wins two, doesn't skt get #1?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
March 04 2012 08:24 GMT
#6
Well, it looks like KT has to play every PO game to win it all again if they can't get higher than SKT or Samsung.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
March 04 2012 08:26 GMT
#7
On March 04 2012 17:23 Doraemon wrote:
if khan loses one and skt wins two, doesn't skt get #1?

I was talking about playoff chances, but yes SKT will get #1 and secure a Finals spot, given that KT wins two but falls short of SKT's difference in win/loss of sets.
ppp
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 04 2012 08:27 GMT
#8
On March 04 2012 17:26 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 17:23 Doraemon wrote:
if khan loses one and skt wins two, doesn't skt get #1?

I was talking about playoff chances, but yes SKT will get #1 and secure a Finals spot, given that KT wins two but falls short of SKT's difference in win/loss of sets.


ah ok. fair enough.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 04 2012 08:28 GMT
#9
We're in a bad bad spot Hopefully the knocked out teams don't start fielding all rookies or something or we're screwed.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
March 04 2012 08:29 GMT
#10
Instead of Best Case Scenario, it should probably be Bare Minimum For Playoffs. Best case scenario would obviously be winning all your games
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WTFTerran
Profile Joined November 2011
Russian Federation286 Posts
March 04 2012 08:35 GMT
#11
go go CJ, fuck woongjin
Bogus, MKP, Bomber FTW!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
March 04 2012 08:35 GMT
#12
SKT straight to finals, i believe
POGGERS
lFrost
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States295 Posts
March 04 2012 08:38 GMT
#13
are the playoffs going to be the format where rank 1 proleague team gets auto seeded into grand finals?
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
March 04 2012 08:40 GMT
#14
I really hope Woongjin makes it.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
March 04 2012 08:42 GMT
#15
On March 04 2012 17:38 lFrost wrote:
are the playoffs going to be the format where rank 1 proleague team gets auto seeded into grand finals?


yes
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 08:46:50
March 04 2012 08:46 GMT
#16
On March 04 2012 17:35 WTFTerran wrote:
go go CJ, fuck woongjin

A little crude, but I like it. Go CJ go. Thanks for the writeup. Makes the following days more fun to follow
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Renkaoru
Profile Joined October 2010
390 Posts
March 04 2012 08:51 GMT
#17
On March 04 2012 17:29 Kiett wrote:
Instead of Best Case Scenario, it should probably be Bare Minimum For Playoffs. Best case scenario would obviously be winning all your games


This is true.

On the other hand, it's hard to swallow the fact that Samsung Khan, despite being in first place isn't a lock even for a playoff spot. This gives an idea how tense the remaining games will be. I am of the opinion that the knocked out teams will fight with their team's honor on the line, and thus will send their best lineups. What an exciting time to be watching Proleague! :D
God is in His heaven. All is right with the world.
Finskie
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden412 Posts
March 04 2012 10:05 GMT
#18
KHAN fuck yeah! hope we stick to the first place for the rest of the season
Violet.
rslee
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada226 Posts
March 04 2012 10:07 GMT
#19
On March 04 2012 17:51 Renkaoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 17:29 Kiett wrote:
Instead of Best Case Scenario, it should probably be Bare Minimum For Playoffs. Best case scenario would obviously be winning all your games


This is true.

On the other hand, it's hard to swallow the fact that Samsung Khan, despite being in first place isn't a lock even for a playoff spot. This gives an idea how tense the remaining games will be. I am of the opinion that the knocked out teams will fight with their team's honor on the line, and thus will send their best lineups. What an exciting time to be watching Proleague! :D


Just goes to show how tight the competition was from 1st place to 8th place throughout the season.
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
March 04 2012 10:15 GMT
#20
2 wins CJ, 2 wins

i'll be cheering hard for CJ
BW is back
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
March 04 2012 10:27 GMT
#21
Lets go Stars! Light, your going to be playing some protoss's, practice!
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
March 04 2012 10:35 GMT
#22
Let's go, KT! For the 5th place!
(´・ω・`)
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 04 2012 10:52 GMT
#23
On March 04 2012 19:35 sinistral wrote:
Let's go, KT! For the 5th place!


all aboard the KT trainnnnnnnnn
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
March 04 2012 11:10 GMT
#24
SKT1 will win!
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
March 04 2012 11:21 GMT
#25
On March 04 2012 19:35 sinistral wrote:
Let's go, KT! For the 5th place!

Ahahaha

still afraid eh?
"Start yo" -FlaSh
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
March 04 2012 11:35 GMT
#26
KT number 1 team, easy!
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
March 04 2012 11:54 GMT
#27
Khan for number one, CJ to either replace SKT or KT for playoffs if its possible.
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
March 04 2012 11:56 GMT
#28
It sounds crazy, but I want CJ to win more than I want T1 to lose. It'll be nice to have the villains in the playoffs. Let's go CJ!
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
March 04 2012 11:56 GMT
#29
Since team 8 is out, I`ll be cheering for SKT from now on... Anyone knows something about playoffs,will it be 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3 -> grand final? And is it bo3 in both semis and finals,just finals or it`s bo1 all the way?
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 12:00:58
March 04 2012 11:58 GMT
#30
On March 04 2012 20:56 Vuk_91 wrote:
Since team 8 is out, I`ll be cheering for SKT from now on... Anyone knows something about playoffs,will it be 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3 -> grand final? And is it bo3 in both semis and finals,just finals or it`s bo1 all the way?


3 vs 4, winner plays 2 winner plays 1. Bo3, except final game.
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
March 04 2012 12:04 GMT
#31
On March 04 2012 20:58 jaQi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 20:56 Vuk_91 wrote:
Since team 8 is out, I`ll be cheering for SKT from now on... Anyone knows something about playoffs,will it be 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3 -> grand final? And is it bo3 in both semis and finals,just finals or it`s bo1 all the way?


3 vs 4, winner plays 2 winner plays 1. Bo3, except final game.

Thank you.
Oh I didn`t know that first place in regular season is so important And finals again just one set? I really don`t like that,especially with this bo5 stupid format,it means that we can get 45 minutes 3-0 in the finals
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
March 04 2012 12:06 GMT
#32
Playoffs are confirmed bo7. not sure if with or without ace match though.
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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
March 04 2012 12:08 GMT
#33
On March 04 2012 21:04 Vuk_91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 20:58 jaQi wrote:
On March 04 2012 20:56 Vuk_91 wrote:
Since team 8 is out, I`ll be cheering for SKT from now on... Anyone knows something about playoffs,will it be 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3 -> grand final? And is it bo3 in both semis and finals,just finals or it`s bo1 all the way?


3 vs 4, winner plays 2 winner plays 1. Bo3, except final game.

Thank you.
Oh I didn`t know that first place in regular season is so important And finals again just one set? I really don`t like that,especially with this bo5 stupid format,it means that we can get 45 minutes 3-0 in the finals

Finals is Bo7. Its not really practical to have more than 1 set finals. Just imagin if it went to 21 games how long it would be...
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 04 2012 12:19 GMT
#34
I wouldn't be too upset if Khan got the 1st seed and KT got 2nd.

I want to see a new Grand Final for the first time since 2009. Let it be Khan/CJ/Stars vs. KT. You can stay away, SKT1. We haven't had a final without you since 2008.
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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
March 04 2012 12:29 GMT
#35
On March 04 2012 21:19 Fionn wrote:
I wouldn't be too upset if Khan got the 1st seed and KT got 2nd.

I want to see a new Grand Final for the first time since 2009. Let it be Khan/CJ/Stars vs. KT. You can stay away, SKT1. We haven't had a final without you since 2008.

Likewise. Haven't had a final without you since 2009. KT, stay far away, plzkthx.
Writer:o
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
March 04 2012 12:45 GMT
#36
On March 04 2012 21:29 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 21:19 Fionn wrote:
I wouldn't be too upset if Khan got the 1st seed and KT got 2nd.

I want to see a new Grand Final for the first time since 2009. Let it be Khan/CJ/Stars vs. KT. You can stay away, SKT1. We haven't had a final without you since 2008.

Likewise. Haven't had a final without you since 2009. KT, stay far away, plzkthx.


I hope both KT and SKT will end up 3/4, so we won't have a KT vs SKT1 final again, but still a match between both. Afterwards they will have to win another 2 games to bring home the championship, that is more interesting.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 04 2012 12:53 GMT
#37
Whatever it is, I do NOT want another KT-SKT final. KT vs Khan or CJ would be the best.
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WTFTerran
Profile Joined November 2011
Russian Federation286 Posts
March 04 2012 12:53 GMT
#38
2 wins CJ, 2 wins

i'll be cheering hard for CJ

They will play against STX.
Well, Bogus must win the game and STX can lost 1-3
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shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 12:57:34
March 04 2012 12:56 GMT
#39
Refer to signature on my thoughts on CJ!

I hope they don't win! BWAHAHAHAHA

The Stars have my eternal support! GOGOGO SK/ZERO
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ponzi
Profile Joined May 2011
65 Posts
March 04 2012 13:04 GMT
#40
As long as Woongjin is eliminated I'm happy!
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
March 04 2012 13:06 GMT
#41
C'mon CJ. 2wins 2wins. we still believe. do it....

CJ Entus Hwaiting....
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
March 04 2012 13:33 GMT
#42
It's so tight at the top, I love it. CJ and Stars are really gonna be close. KT usually beats CJ and for some reason CJ keeps losing to STX, if they can shape up and win of those they're in but it doesn't look good historically. CJ has the better chance of getting in because I can't see stars winning against Khan and Team 8. People forget that team 8 has baby and jaedong, it's not an easy team to beat at all.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
March 04 2012 13:37 GMT
#43
If one of the telecoms gets eliminated there will be so much glorious drama. Unlikely, but a man can dream.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
March 04 2012 13:38 GMT
#44
Too bad STX didn't make it. They played such a good season for their thin roster.

But then again, it is every year the same, I want almost every team to make it into the playoffs. But this season T8 and Ace didnt deserve it. Ace was just too weak and sent out odd players instead of their best. T8 is just a story of wasted potential. Hope they catch themselves next season.

On a side note, GO KHAN!!!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 04 2012 14:12 GMT
#45
Is STX out for sure?
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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
March 04 2012 14:16 GMT
#46
On March 04 2012 23:12 Xiphos wrote:
Is STX out for sure?

yes, they only have 1 game left and they would need at least 2 wins to advance
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
March 04 2012 14:21 GMT
#47
Wow, thanks a LOT for writing this up. I hate thinking about Proleague formats and this summed it up pretty nicely for me.
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Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
March 04 2012 14:33 GMT
#48
once again i seriously hope either SKT/KT don't make playoffs, or at the very least don't make the playoff finals. I had enough of SKT/KT in every single playoffs, and the final games don't usually turn out as epic as everyone makes it out to be
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
March 04 2012 14:37 GMT
#49
Slight mistake (I think, don't shoot me if I'm wrong )

If they lose, CJ NEEDS to lose both of their games AND have overall difference of -4 or more, depending on the result of Khan vs Stars.


If Stars loses and then CJ loses both games then Stars is fine. The -4 part looks like a mistake. However you write correctly in the summary for CJ that

Worst case scenario: CJ loses twice, will not qualify for playoffs.


So it seems like it's almost nit-picking on my part. Just figured I'd point it out so you can have the perfect play-offs analysis/post possible

Seriously, thanks for this snm. I haven't caught a lot of proleague recently and was wondering how everyone was faring in the lead up to the playoffs.

I assume Khan will make it and I really hope Stars does too (although they feel slightly weaker than Cj, but eh, I'm a fan).
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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 04 2012 14:54 GMT
#50
CJ! CJ! CJ! CJ!

+ Show Spoiler +
heart swelled with joy when they won last night
KenNage
Profile Joined May 2009
Chile885 Posts
March 04 2012 15:37 GMT
#51
since oppa is out, i have to root for khan, fuck stars and the telecoms, i want cj vs khan.

also i thought all matches were bo7?, like 3 v 4 its bo3, and each is bo7, or only finals are bo1 and bo7?
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 04 2012 15:47 GMT
#52
Go stars!
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 04 2012 15:47 GMT
#53
I am going to keep my tradition of always rooting for the underdog. That being sad, I have to go against you CJ. Time for a new Star to shine.
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 04 2012 15:54 GMT
#54
On March 04 2012 21:29 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 21:19 Fionn wrote:
I wouldn't be too upset if Khan got the 1st seed and KT got 2nd.

I want to see a new Grand Final for the first time since 2009. Let it be Khan/CJ/Stars vs. KT. You can stay away, SKT1. We haven't had a final without you since 2008.

Likewise. Haven't had a final without you since 2009. KT, stay far away, plzkthx.

I like the way you guys think, How about a grand finals of KHAN vs WJ?
Liquipedia
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 04 2012 16:05 GMT
#55
On March 05 2012 00:54 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 21:29 Kiett wrote:
On March 04 2012 21:19 Fionn wrote:
I wouldn't be too upset if Khan got the 1st seed and KT got 2nd.

I want to see a new Grand Final for the first time since 2009. Let it be Khan/CJ/Stars vs. KT. You can stay away, SKT1. We haven't had a final without you since 2008.

Likewise. Haven't had a final without you since 2009. KT, stay far away, plzkthx.

I like the way you guys think, How about a grand finals of KHAN vs WJ?


As long as the KTs don't make it to the final, I am fine for anything.
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ThE)ShoWTimE
Profile Joined August 2011
Italy213 Posts
March 04 2012 16:06 GMT
#56
GO CJ i believe!!
taitanik
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia231 Posts
March 04 2012 16:10 GMT
#57
so maybe i missed theres a lot to read and im lazy but since im interested in CJ the most what 2 opponents are left for them to play?
"the game is over only when you make it over"
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 16:15:32
March 04 2012 16:15 GMT
#58
On March 04 2012 20:21 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 19:35 sinistral wrote:
Let's go, KT! For the 5th place!

Ahahaha

still afraid eh?


A coward that wins is a good coward :3.

No, KT are annoying when they are in play-offs. I don't like clutch players when they sit in the booth on the opposite side.
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
March 04 2012 16:21 GMT
#59
come on CJ

its TIME TO WIN PROLEAGUE
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sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
March 04 2012 16:23 GMT
#60
On March 05 2012 01:10 taitanik wrote:
so maybe i missed theres a lot to read and im lazy but since im interested in CJ the most what 2 opponents are left for them to play?

STX and ACE. Which are eliminated. :/ Hope they play seriously.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
March 04 2012 16:23 GMT
#61
On March 04 2012 22:04 ponzi wrote:
As long as Woongjin is eliminated I'm happy!


O.O

Dude you're like the only one i know that hate on Stars @.@

Why man, Zero's adorable.. Actually Woongjin's adorable :D
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
March 04 2012 16:46 GMT
#62
We really need a miracle, heh.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
March 04 2012 16:53 GMT
#63
On March 05 2012 01:46 bearbuddy wrote:
We really need a miracle, heh.


ACE beating out CJ will be difficult, but STX not so much. Their players are in good form. Once (and if) they catch Leta w Dear, they have a more than decent chance at beating out CJ.

Woongjin on the other hand, is pretty good vs KHAN, at least on paper, imho. Khan has the most trouble handling Zergs, especially creative ones, and that's exactly what Woongjin has to offer. Im optimistic about Woongjin's playoff chances (i ll say 30%-40%?).
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
March 04 2012 17:26 GMT
#64
On March 05 2012 01:23 ffreakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 22:04 ponzi wrote:
As long as Woongjin is eliminated I'm happy!


O.O

Dude you're like the only one i know that hate on Stars @.@

Why man, Zero's adorable.. Actually Woongjin's adorable :D


i'm not too fond of them either, for obviously biased reasons
go KHAN! TBLS <3
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
March 04 2012 17:38 GMT
#65
I don't understand why there's no discussion about place 1 and place 2 in standings? Since they will need to play less games to win it all, I think it is quite important.
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
March 04 2012 18:01 GMT
#66
This current PL season is the best and the worst of Starcraft. Tihs PL race is one of the elements of "best."
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
tissue
Profile Joined April 2009
Malaysia441 Posts
March 04 2012 18:08 GMT
#67
Time for coaches to stock up on chicken.
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
March 04 2012 18:12 GMT
#68
On March 05 2012 03:08 tissue wrote:
Time for coaches to stock up on chicken.

THIS
get stronger play longer
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 18:54:48
March 04 2012 18:52 GMT
#69
Damn...I like watching both CJ and Woongjin. Don't know who to root for.

The three above them I dont care so much for.

Also...T8 TT
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
March 04 2012 19:07 GMT
#70
Rooting for Khan since T8 is out. go go RorO and Shine!
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
March 04 2012 19:43 GMT
#71
Writing up something like this at 4am is not the brightest idea.

Fixing few things here and the right now, thanks for the comments/PM
ppp
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 04 2012 19:44 GMT
#72
Nice OP! It's crunch time!
KTY
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
March 04 2012 19:47 GMT
#73
I predict that Khan, SKT, & KT will all win against Team 8, whose players must be very demoralized and less likely to perform their best.

+ Show Spoiler +
Team 8 has a 1-5 record against these teams:

vs Khan -> 1-3, 0-3
vs SKT -> 1-3, 3-0 (5-pool, fast 3-gate with proxy, 5-gate all-in)
vs KT -> 2-3, 0-3

Average score: 1-3


I also predict SKT, KT & CJ will all win against ACE, who haven't been able to win against any of these teams after upsetting KT in the first match of the season.

+ Show Spoiler +
ACE has a 1-5 record against these teams:

vs SKT -> 1-3, 1-3
vs KT -> 3-2, 1-3
vs CJ -> 0-3, 0-3

Average score: 1-3


If they all win those matches by a score of 3-1, the standings will look like this:

1. Khan 13-7 (+8)
2. SKT 13-8 (+16)
4. KT 13-8 (+15)
4. CJ 11-9 (+5)
5. Stars 11-9 (-3)

The important matches are Khan vs Stars and CJ vs STX

Khan vs Stars

-Khan must win against Stars to keep first place. If not, they will drop to 3rd place due to their lower set differential, to the benefit of SKT and KT (new first and second place).
-Stars must win against Khan to keep their chance of 4th place alive.

CJ vs STX

-CJ must win against STX in case Stars edges out a win against Khan.


If Stars win and CJ loses, Stars will keep 4th place.
If Stars lose and CJ wins, CJ will move up to 4th place.
If Stars and CJ both win, CJ will move up to 4th place due to their higher set differential.
If Stars and CJ both lose, CJ will move up to 4th place due to their higher set differential.

supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
March 04 2012 19:52 GMT
#74
On March 05 2012 04:47 domane wrote:
I predict that Khan, SKT, & KT will all win against Team 8, whose players must be very demoralized and less likely to perform their best.

+ Show Spoiler +
Team 8 has a 1-5 record against these teams:

vs Khan -> 1-3, 0-3
vs SKT -> 1-3, 3-0 (5-pool, fast 3-gate with proxy, 5-gate all-in)
vs KT -> 2-3, 0-3

Average score: 1-3


I also predict SKT, KT & CJ will all win against ACE, who haven't been able to win against any of these teams after upsetting KT in the first match of the season.

+ Show Spoiler +
ACE has a 1-5 record against these teams:

vs SKT -> 1-3, 1-3
vs KT -> 3-2, 1-3
vs CJ -> 0-3, 0-3

Average score: 1-3


If they all win those matches by a score of 3-1, the standings will look like this:

1. Khan 13-7 (+8)
2. SKT 13-8 (+16)
4. KT 13-8 (+15)
4. CJ 11-9 (+5)
5. Stars 11-9 (-3)

The important matches are Khan vs Stars and CJ vs STX

Khan vs Stars

-Khan must win against Stars to keep first place. If not, they will drop to 3rd place due to their lower set differential, to the benefit of SKT and KT (new first and second place).
-Stars must win against Khan to keep their chance of 4th place alive.

CJ vs STX

-CJ must win against STX in case Stars edges out a win against Khan.


If Stars win and CJ loses, Stars will keep 4th place.
If Stars lose and CJ wins, CJ will move up to 4th place.
If Stars and CJ both win, CJ will move up to 4th place due to their higher set differential.
If Stars and CJ both lose, CJ will move up to 4th place due to their higher set differential.



Here's something VERY interesting: CJ vs ACE is the last game of the season. So if things go accordingly, we won't know who qualifies until the very last game of proleague.
ppp
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 05:42:06
March 04 2012 20:12 GMT
#75
EDIT: nvm
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
March 04 2012 20:47 GMT
#76
On March 05 2012 04:52 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 04:47 domane wrote:
I predict that Khan, SKT, & KT will all win against Team 8, whose players must be very demoralized and less likely to perform their best.

+ Show Spoiler +
Team 8 has a 1-5 record against these teams:

vs Khan -> 1-3, 0-3
vs SKT -> 1-3, 3-0 (5-pool, fast 3-gate with proxy, 5-gate all-in)
vs KT -> 2-3, 0-3

Average score: 1-3


I also predict SKT, KT & CJ will all win against ACE, who haven't been able to win against any of these teams after upsetting KT in the first match of the season.

+ Show Spoiler +
ACE has a 1-5 record against these teams:

vs SKT -> 1-3, 1-3
vs KT -> 3-2, 1-3
vs CJ -> 0-3, 0-3

Average score: 1-3


If they all win those matches by a score of 3-1, the standings will look like this:

1. Khan 13-7 (+8)
2. SKT 13-8 (+16)
4. KT 13-8 (+15)
4. CJ 11-9 (+5)
5. Stars 11-9 (-3)

The important matches are Khan vs Stars and CJ vs STX

Khan vs Stars

-Khan must win against Stars to keep first place. If not, they will drop to 3rd place due to their lower set differential, to the benefit of SKT and KT (new first and second place).
-Stars must win against Khan to keep their chance of 4th place alive.

CJ vs STX

-CJ must win against STX in case Stars edges out a win against Khan.


If Stars win and CJ loses, Stars will keep 4th place.
If Stars lose and CJ wins, CJ will move up to 4th place.
If Stars and CJ both win, CJ will move up to 4th place due to their higher set differential.
If Stars and CJ both lose, CJ will move up to 4th place due to their higher set differential.



Here's something VERY interesting: CJ vs ACE is the last game of the season. So if things go accordingly, we won't know who qualifies until the very last game of proleague.

how great would it be if ACE actually won that game and cockblocked CJ to make way for stars.
This is our town, scrub
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 04 2012 20:50 GMT
#77
Cockblock for the win. Need Sayle sitting on their side.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 04 2012 20:54 GMT
#78
Go SKT!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
phimp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States13 Posts
March 04 2012 21:02 GMT
#79
On March 04 2012 20:56 thopol wrote:
It sounds crazy, but I want CJ to win more than I want T1 to lose. It'll be nice to have the villains in the playoffs. Let's go CJ!

This. And go KT of course but I'm not too worried about them.
my brain is just a jellyfish in the ocean of my head
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 04 2012 21:40 GMT
#80
On March 05 2012 05:47 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 04:52 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 05 2012 04:47 domane wrote:
I predict that Khan, SKT, & KT will all win against Team 8, whose players must be very demoralized and less likely to perform their best.

+ Show Spoiler +
Team 8 has a 1-5 record against these teams:

vs Khan -> 1-3, 0-3
vs SKT -> 1-3, 3-0 (5-pool, fast 3-gate with proxy, 5-gate all-in)
vs KT -> 2-3, 0-3

Average score: 1-3


I also predict SKT, KT & CJ will all win against ACE, who haven't been able to win against any of these teams after upsetting KT in the first match of the season.

+ Show Spoiler +
ACE has a 1-5 record against these teams:

vs SKT -> 1-3, 1-3
vs KT -> 3-2, 1-3
vs CJ -> 0-3, 0-3

Average score: 1-3


If they all win those matches by a score of 3-1, the standings will look like this:

1. Khan 13-7 (+8)
2. SKT 13-8 (+16)
4. KT 13-8 (+15)
4. CJ 11-9 (+5)
5. Stars 11-9 (-3)

The important matches are Khan vs Stars and CJ vs STX

Khan vs Stars

-Khan must win against Stars to keep first place. If not, they will drop to 3rd place due to their lower set differential, to the benefit of SKT and KT (new first and second place).
-Stars must win against Khan to keep their chance of 4th place alive.

CJ vs STX

-CJ must win against STX in case Stars edges out a win against Khan.


If Stars win and CJ loses, Stars will keep 4th place.
If Stars lose and CJ wins, CJ will move up to 4th place.
If Stars and CJ both win, CJ will move up to 4th place due to their higher set differential.
If Stars and CJ both lose, CJ will move up to 4th place due to their higher set differential.



Here's something VERY interesting: CJ vs ACE is the last game of the season. So if things go accordingly, we won't know who qualifies until the very last game of proleague.

how great would it be if ACE actually won that game and cockblocked CJ to make way for stars.


Oh man, that would be SEX.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
March 04 2012 21:50 GMT
#81
On March 05 2012 05:47 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 04:52 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 05 2012 04:47 domane wrote:
I predict that Khan, SKT, & KT will all win against Team 8, whose players must be very demoralized and less likely to perform their best.

+ Show Spoiler +
Team 8 has a 1-5 record against these teams:

vs Khan -> 1-3, 0-3
vs SKT -> 1-3, 3-0 (5-pool, fast 3-gate with proxy, 5-gate all-in)
vs KT -> 2-3, 0-3

Average score: 1-3


I also predict SKT, KT & CJ will all win against ACE, who haven't been able to win against any of these teams after upsetting KT in the first match of the season.

+ Show Spoiler +
ACE has a 1-5 record against these teams:

vs SKT -> 1-3, 1-3
vs KT -> 3-2, 1-3
vs CJ -> 0-3, 0-3

Average score: 1-3


If they all win those matches by a score of 3-1, the standings will look like this:

1. Khan 13-7 (+8)
2. SKT 13-8 (+16)
4. KT 13-8 (+15)
4. CJ 11-9 (+5)
5. Stars 11-9 (-3)

The important matches are Khan vs Stars and CJ vs STX

Khan vs Stars

-Khan must win against Stars to keep first place. If not, they will drop to 3rd place due to their lower set differential, to the benefit of SKT and KT (new first and second place).
-Stars must win against Khan to keep their chance of 4th place alive.

CJ vs STX

-CJ must win against STX in case Stars edges out a win against Khan.


If Stars win and CJ loses, Stars will keep 4th place.
If Stars lose and CJ wins, CJ will move up to 4th place.
If Stars and CJ both win, CJ will move up to 4th place due to their higher set differential.
If Stars and CJ both lose, CJ will move up to 4th place due to their higher set differential.



Here's something VERY interesting: CJ vs ACE is the last game of the season. So if things go accordingly, we won't know who qualifies until the very last game of proleague.

how great would it be if ACE actually won that game and cockblocked CJ to make way for stars.

One can hope!
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
March 04 2012 21:50 GMT
#82
good stuff, SKT Hwaiting!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
March 04 2012 23:03 GMT
#83
So what are the remaining matchups for the teams? I know CJ still has ACE left, but dunno about the others.
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
March 04 2012 23:05 GMT
#84
On March 05 2012 06:40 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 05:47 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On March 05 2012 04:52 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 05 2012 04:47 domane wrote:
I predict that Khan, SKT, & KT will all win against Team 8, whose players must be very demoralized and less likely to perform their best.

+ Show Spoiler +
Team 8 has a 1-5 record against these teams:

vs Khan -> 1-3, 0-3
vs SKT -> 1-3, 3-0 (5-pool, fast 3-gate with proxy, 5-gate all-in)
vs KT -> 2-3, 0-3

Average score: 1-3


I also predict SKT, KT & CJ will all win against ACE, who haven't been able to win against any of these teams after upsetting KT in the first match of the season.

+ Show Spoiler +
ACE has a 1-5 record against these teams:

vs SKT -> 1-3, 1-3
vs KT -> 3-2, 1-3
vs CJ -> 0-3, 0-3

Average score: 1-3


If they all win those matches by a score of 3-1, the standings will look like this:

1. Khan 13-7 (+8)
2. SKT 13-8 (+16)
4. KT 13-8 (+15)
4. CJ 11-9 (+5)
5. Stars 11-9 (-3)

The important matches are Khan vs Stars and CJ vs STX

Khan vs Stars

-Khan must win against Stars to keep first place. If not, they will drop to 3rd place due to their lower set differential, to the benefit of SKT and KT (new first and second place).
-Stars must win against Khan to keep their chance of 4th place alive.

CJ vs STX

-CJ must win against STX in case Stars edges out a win against Khan.


If Stars win and CJ loses, Stars will keep 4th place.
If Stars lose and CJ wins, CJ will move up to 4th place.
If Stars and CJ both win, CJ will move up to 4th place due to their higher set differential.
If Stars and CJ both lose, CJ will move up to 4th place due to their higher set differential.



Here's something VERY interesting: CJ vs ACE is the last game of the season. So if things go accordingly, we won't know who qualifies until the very last game of proleague.

how great would it be if ACE actually won that game and cockblocked CJ to make way for stars.


Oh man, that would be SEX.


You have a weird choice of word. But yes, Down with CJ.
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rupp_lekkens
Profile Joined February 2012
Chile64 Posts
March 04 2012 23:14 GMT
#85
gogoggo CJ!
please correct me if I'm wrong in my english
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
March 04 2012 23:51 GMT
#86
Everything will depend on if Stars coach can avoid matching Light against a protoss.
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
March 04 2012 23:54 GMT
#87
As an ex-CJ fan, I am 100% confident in CJ's ability to choke at the most inopportune times. Go Woongjin!
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
March 05 2012 00:05 GMT
#88
We beat Khan, no worries. It also won't be that important for them and for us it will mean everything.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10155 Posts
March 05 2012 00:14 GMT
#89
KT 2-0 into beating SKT in Grandfinals. You heard it here first. Let the Bisu tears begin.
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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
March 05 2012 00:16 GMT
#90
A bit bummed that Team 8 and ACE are out now. I will be rooting for them in the next season. There will be a next season. I know it. Please for the love of god let there be a next season.
this is my quote.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 05 2012 00:33 GMT
#91
Guess I'm rooting for Samsung now
Jaedong :3
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 05 2012 00:45 GMT
#92
On March 05 2012 09:33 ReketSomething wrote:
Guess I'm rooting for Samsung now


And become the coolest KT fan ever existed.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
March 05 2012 01:38 GMT
#93


As long as Song Blue Goo doesn't show up again.
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 05 2012 02:00 GMT
#94
I apologize, because I know ACE don't stand to gain much from wins now and CJ needs it more than ever, but still I'm going to hope for ACE to emerge victorious just for appeasement of me lil' supporter heart
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
March 05 2012 02:33 GMT
#95
On March 05 2012 09:05 figq wrote:
We beat Khan, no worries. It also won't be that important for them and for us it will mean everything.
Actually, it is pretty close though. If Khan wins against T8, a win or loss against Stars will be the difference between 1st place(a spot in the finals) and third place (a spot in the quarter-finals). But I agree about the greater desire to win (and make the playoffs).

endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
March 05 2012 04:17 GMT
#96
Has the post season schedule been released yet ?
I'm dying to know when SKT will take back the crown.
ॐ
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
March 05 2012 05:22 GMT
#97
On March 05 2012 05:12 domane wrote:
Now that I look further at the records, it doesn't look promising for Stars.

CJ swept STX 3-0 twice this season (2-for-2 so far), while Stars have traded a 2-3 loss and a 3-2 win with Khan.



actually STX and CJ are 1-1 this season, with both matches ending 3-0.
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Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
March 05 2012 05:32 GMT
#98
come on SKT
clinch that first place spot
!!!
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
March 05 2012 05:34 GMT
#99
Khan Cj would be funny. Khan always lose to CJ and CJ never with anything.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
March 05 2012 05:41 GMT
#100
On March 05 2012 14:22 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 05:12 domane wrote:
Now that I look further at the records, it doesn't look promising for Stars.

CJ swept STX 3-0 twice this season (2-for-2 so far), while Stars have traded a 2-3 loss and a 3-2 win with Khan.



actually STX and CJ are 1-1 this season, with both matches ending 3-0.
Oops. Thanks.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
March 05 2012 06:28 GMT
#101
On March 05 2012 14:34 ShadeR wrote:
Khan Cj would be funny. Khan always lose to CJ and CJ never with anything.


That's why we always end with an SKT vs KT finals.
ॐ
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
March 05 2012 06:30 GMT
#102
On March 05 2012 15:28 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 14:34 ShadeR wrote:
Khan Cj would be funny. Khan always lose to CJ and CJ never with anything.


That's why we always end with an SKT vs KT finals.

Khan CJ finals. tadaaa
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
March 05 2012 07:13 GMT
#103
On March 05 2012 15:30 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 15:28 endy wrote:
On March 05 2012 14:34 ShadeR wrote:
Khan Cj would be funny. Khan always lose to CJ and CJ never with anything.


That's why we always end with an SKT vs KT finals.

Khan CJ finals. tadaaa


If if if we are going to have a non-telecom finals. Please let it be KHAN vs Woongjin. (T8 would have been better, but they won't make it this time, so there =/)
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
March 05 2012 08:15 GMT
#104
oh I'd be so happy if there was a non-telecom finals. I'm so sick of seeing these 2 teams at the finals every year.
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 06 2012 01:00 GMT
#105
Cheering against CJ, or for Stars. I'm not convinced that CJ-OGN-Gretech want what's best for BW, but more what's best for themselves.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
March 06 2012 01:51 GMT
#106
SKT vs Khan for the finals
because we haven't had enough pvp this year
!
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shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 01:56:12
March 06 2012 01:55 GMT
#107
I'm all for a T1 vs Stars Bo9 format. With 2 2v2s and Pyrotechnics and the whole shebang.

ACE, please win. DOWN WITH CJ!
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 02:03:32
March 06 2012 02:02 GMT
#108
are playoffs still Bo5 or will they up it to Bo7?
Free Palestine
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
March 06 2012 02:10 GMT
#109
On March 06 2012 11:02 Ideas wrote:
are playoffs still Bo5 or will they up it to Bo7?


bo7 I believe
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
March 06 2012 07:53 GMT
#110
On March 06 2012 11:10 Soft`Soap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 11:02 Ideas wrote:
are playoffs still Bo5 or will they up it to Bo7?


bo7 I believe


If it is Bo7, I wonder what they will do for the 7th map, as there are only 6 official maps in the map pool right now.
Free Palestine
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
March 06 2012 08:08 GMT
#111
On March 06 2012 16:53 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 11:10 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 06 2012 11:02 Ideas wrote:
are playoffs still Bo5 or will they up it to Bo7?


bo7 I believe


If it is Bo7, I wonder what they will do for the 7th map, as there are only 6 official maps in the map pool right now.

Bring back Fighting Spirit? Nah, too old. I'm betting between La Mancha and Circuit Breaker as the 7th map.
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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
March 07 2012 12:12 GMT
#112
SKT NUMBA ONE SUCK ON THAT KT
Writer
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
March 07 2012 12:19 GMT
#113
On March 06 2012 17:08 Ciryandor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 16:53 Ideas wrote:
On March 06 2012 11:10 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 06 2012 11:02 Ideas wrote:
are playoffs still Bo5 or will they up it to Bo7?


bo7 I believe


If it is Bo7, I wonder what they will do for the 7th map, as there are only 6 official maps in the map pool right now.

Bring back Fighting Spirit? Nah, too old. I'm betting between La Mancha and Circuit Breaker as the 7th map.

Sniper ridge twice would good. Sniper Ridge effect gonna make the finals epic.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
March 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#114
omg T8 gonna crush SKT this weekend... Stars has the best chance against Khan and CJ is doing well lately.
with 2 almost secure wins for KTflash the results would be like that:

+ Show Spoiler +
KT 13w 8L first spot on march

SKT 12w 9L -------------
Khan 12w 9L ------------------------------
                                                  --------------- fourfold draw ?
CJ 12w 9L ---------------------------------
Stars 12w 9L ------------

what would happen in that case with those four teams?
This is the way
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
March 07 2012 16:40 GMT
#115
That's what the win differential is for.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 07 2012 16:48 GMT
#116
On March 07 2012 21:12 Kiante wrote:
SKT NUMBA ONE SUCK ON THAT KT


The last two times you were in the lead, you still lost to us in two grand finals . yeah suck on that skt1
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
March 07 2012 16:52 GMT
#117
On March 08 2012 01:40 moopie wrote:
That's what the win differential is for.


Got it
This is the way
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
March 07 2012 16:57 GMT
#118
On March 08 2012 01:37 quien wrote:
omg T8 gonna crush SKT this weekend... Stars has the best chance against Khan and CJ is doing well lately.
with 2 almost secure wins for KTflash the results would be like that:

+ Show Spoiler +
KT 13w 8L first spot on march

SKT 12w 9L -------------
Khan 12w 9L ------------------------------
                                                  --------------- fourfold draw ?
CJ 12w 9L ---------------------------------
Stars 12w 9L ------------

what would happen in that case with those four teams?

I'd be very careful with saying 2 almoste secore wins for KT. Wouldnt surprise me at all to see them losing1:3 (and therefore confirming the name KTFlash)
This is our town, scrub
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 07 2012 17:00 GMT
#119
On March 08 2012 01:57 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 01:37 quien wrote:
omg T8 gonna crush SKT this weekend... Stars has the best chance against Khan and CJ is doing well lately.
with 2 almost secure wins for KTflash the results would be like that:

+ Show Spoiler +
KT 13w 8L first spot on march

SKT 12w 9L -------------
Khan 12w 9L ------------------------------
                                                  --------------- fourfold draw ?
CJ 12w 9L ---------------------------------
Stars 12w 9L ------------

what would happen in that case with those four teams?

I'd be very careful with saying 2 almoste secore wins for KT. Wouldnt surprise me at all to see them losing1:3 (and therefore confirming the name KTFlash)


Meh If KT makes it to the play off, hence life goes on and if kt doesn't life goes on too . Although the kt fan boy in me says that meh It's time to rely on our protoss line this year, instead of our slump zerg line . It won't be easy for us in the next two match up but I am confident we will make it through this time.

KT fighting always .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
March 07 2012 17:12 GMT
#120
On March 08 2012 01:57 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 01:37 quien wrote:
omg T8 gonna crush SKT this weekend... Stars has the best chance against Khan and CJ is doing well lately.
with 2 almost secure wins for KTflash the results would be like that:

+ Show Spoiler +
KT 13w 8L first spot on march

SKT 12w 9L -------------
Khan 12w 9L ------------------------------
                                                  --------------- fourfold draw ?
CJ 12w 9L ---------------------------------
Stars 12w 9L ------------

what would happen in that case with those four teams?

I'd be very careful with saying 2 almoste secore wins for KT. Wouldnt surprise me at all to see them losing1:3 (and therefore confirming the name KTFlash)



i know, Flash is always one secure win for the team.
with Stats, CH, Mind, etc. to finish off the job, i have nothing to worry about.
This is the way
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 17:15:15
March 07 2012 17:14 GMT
#121
On March 08 2012 01:57 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 01:37 quien wrote:
omg T8 gonna crush SKT this weekend... Stars has the best chance against Khan and CJ is doing well lately.
with 2 almost secure wins for KTflash the results would be like that:

+ Show Spoiler +
KT 13w 8L first spot on march

SKT 12w 9L -------------
Khan 12w 9L ------------------------------
                                                  --------------- fourfold draw ?
CJ 12w 9L ---------------------------------
Stars 12w 9L ------------

what would happen in that case with those four teams?

I'd be very careful with saying 2 almoste secore wins for KT. Wouldnt surprise me at all to see them losing1:3 (and therefore confirming the name KTFlash)


ACE and T8 for KT.. Hmm chances of KT dropping at least 1 among these two games is surely higher than SKT losing to T8

SKT already qualified though, no matter what happens, our win differential is currently the best in the league anw.

I'm biased, but the most likely eventual standing seem to be:

SKT (nicely ahead of KT in terms of points differential, likely similar W/L eventual score)
KT (KT, good chance of winning their remaining two games, more so than Khan winning vs Woongjin at least)
Khan (I see them dropping their game vs Woongjin as well, but not before they take it all the way to set 5)
Woongjin (this is pure bias, cos i like Woongjin.. Plus CJ dropping 1 among their remaining 2 games isn't too unlikely).
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
March 07 2012 17:14 GMT
#122
On March 06 2012 17:08 Ciryandor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 16:53 Ideas wrote:
On March 06 2012 11:10 Soft`Soap wrote:
On March 06 2012 11:02 Ideas wrote:
are playoffs still Bo5 or will they up it to Bo7?


bo7 I believe


If it is Bo7, I wonder what they will do for the 7th map, as there are only 6 official maps in the map pool right now.

Bring back Fighting Spirit? Nah, too old. I'm betting between La Mancha and Circuit Breaker as the 7th map.

bo7 format is usually just some of the maps played twice. Bringing back Fighting Spirit would be awful lol. Not even cause it's old, but because it's so overplayed it's become tedious and boring. I have no idea why the community attaches itself to one map for so many years. Lost Temple, then Python, then Fighting Spirit. That's pretty much the only maps that have been played by 70% of the community in the last 14 years.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Sum41
Profile Joined November 2011
Chile345 Posts
March 07 2012 18:00 GMT
#123
team 8 sucks ._.
Hydralisk so fasts and dangerous :D
KenNage
Profile Joined May 2009
Chile885 Posts
March 07 2012 18:17 GMT
#124
On March 08 2012 03:00 Sum41 wrote:
team 8 sucks ._.

They are insconsistent, in a good day they can 3-0 anyone
jumbotroN
Profile Joined April 2010
Peru229 Posts
March 07 2012 18:40 GMT
#125
Hoping to see Khan winning the playoffs. <3 TurN
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
March 07 2012 20:01 GMT
#126
If only Stars beat Khan 3-0, hell will be brought upon Earth.
ppp
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 09 2012 20:28 GMT
#127
Who is like me and thinks
T1 and Khan = good corporation teams
Fingerboom and CJ = evil corporation teams
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pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
March 09 2012 20:55 GMT
#128
On March 10 2012 05:28 blubbdavid wrote:
Who is like me and thinks
T1 and Khan = good corporation teams
Fingerboom and CJ = evil corporation teams

i usually see skt as the evil corporation
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
March 09 2012 21:10 GMT
#129
On March 10 2012 05:55 pvzvt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 05:28 blubbdavid wrote:
Who is like me and thinks
T1 and Khan = good corporation teams
Fingerboom and CJ = evil corporation teams

i usually see skt as the evil corporation

FYI this "evil" corporation is sponsoring whole thing right now.
Everything is a remix.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 21:14:11
March 09 2012 21:13 GMT
#130
On March 10 2012 06:10 elagrion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 05:55 pvzvt wrote:
On March 10 2012 05:28 blubbdavid wrote:
Who is like me and thinks
T1 and Khan = good corporation teams
Fingerboom and CJ = evil corporation teams

i usually see skt as the evil corporation

FYI this "evil" corporation is sponsoring whole thing right now.


So? Doesn't mean that SKT and KT can't be like good vs evil

SKT has always been my "evil empire" - they're like a bunch of super villains! Then super hero KT comes in and is like STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM


I don't even like KT but that's my opinion! :D Has nothing to do with my opinions of SK the company or the team itself
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
March 09 2012 21:13 GMT
#131
On March 10 2012 05:28 blubbdavid wrote:
Who is like me and thinks
T1 and Khan = good corporation teams
Fingerboom and CJ = evil corporation teams


Im pretty much this. With SKT n Khan being my two favourite team (with Woongjin, and the obligatory love for T8).

CJ is evil because they simply are.
KT is evil because they keep beating us in play-offs. If there would be some miracle that would dump KT off the playoffs this year, i ll even give my awesome left ball for that to happen.
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
March 09 2012 22:31 GMT
#132
On March 10 2012 06:13 ffreakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 05:28 blubbdavid wrote:
Who is like me and thinks
T1 and Khan = good corporation teams
Fingerboom and CJ = evil corporation teams


Im pretty much this. With SKT n Khan being my two favourite team (with Woongjin, and the obligatory love for T8).

CJ is evil because they simply are.
KT is evil because they keep beating us in play-offs. If there would be some miracle that would dump KT off the playoffs this year, i ll even give my awesome left ball for that to happen.


Funny but I feel the same way
SKT and Khan = good guys
KT and CJ = bad guys

Flash seems more like the bad guy that nobody can kill as opposed to the 'messiah' to me
Hydra and stats feel more like villains to me

While Bisu, Fantasy, Best, Stork and Jangbi are like the superheroes

imo
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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
March 10 2012 14:33 GMT
#133
Can someone update this to include current results? Trying to figure out what circumstances allow Woongjin to advance but I'm dumb :D
I think esports is pretty nice.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10151 Posts
March 10 2012 14:42 GMT
#134
On March 10 2012 23:33 Saechiis wrote:
Can someone update this to include current results? Trying to figure out what circumstances allow Woongjin to advance but I'm dumb :D

On March 10 2012 16:11 hacklebeast wrote:
Chose your own playoff adventure! Just pick the spoiler of whoever you think will win the match

stars vs ace
+ Show Spoiler [stars wins] +
kt vs 8
+ Show Spoiler [kt wins] +
cj vs soul
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
cj vs ace
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
1st SKT
2nd KT
3rd CJ
4th Khan
out stars
+ Show Spoiler [ace wins] +
1st SKT
2nd KT
3rd Khan
4th stars
out CJ
+ Show Spoiler [soul wins] +
1st SKT
2nd KT
3rd Khan
4th stars
out CJ

+ Show Spoiler [8 wins] +
cj vs soul
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
cj vs ace
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
1st SKT
2nd CJ
3rd Khan
4th stars
out KT
+ Show Spoiler [ace wins] +
1st SKT
2nd Khan
3rd stars
4th KT
out CJ
+ Show Spoiler [soul wins] +
1st SKT
2nd khan
3rd stars
4th KT
out CJ


+ Show Spoiler [stars wins 3-0] +
kt vs 8
+ Show Spoiler [kt wins] +
cj vs soul
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
cj vs ace
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
1st SKT
2nd KT
3rd CJ
4th stars
out khan
+ Show Spoiler [ace wins] +
1st SKT
2nd KT
3rd stars
4th khan
out CJ
+ Show Spoiler [soul wins] +
1st SKT
2nd KT
3rd stars
4th khan
out CJ

+ Show Spoiler [8 wins] +
cj vs soul
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
cj vs ace
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
1st SKT
2nd CJ
3rd stars
4th khan
out KT
+ Show Spoiler [ace wins] +
1st SKT
2nd stars
3rd khan
4th KT
out CJ
+ Show Spoiler [soul wins] +
1st SKT
2nd stars
3rd khan
4th KT
out CJ


+ Show Spoiler [khan wins] +
kt vs 8
+ Show Spoiler [kt wins] +
cj vs soul
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
1st SKT
2nd khan
3rd KT
4th CJ
out stars
+ Show Spoiler [soul wins] +
cj vs ace
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
1st SKT
2nd khan
3rd KT
4th CJ
out stars
+ Show Spoiler [ace wins] +
1st SKT
2nd khan
3rd KT
4th stars
out cj

+ Show Spoiler [8 wins] +
cj vs soul
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
cj vs ace
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
1st SKT
2nd khan
3rd CJ
4th KT
out stars
+ Show Spoiler [ace wins] +
1st SKT
2nd khan
3rd KT
4th CJ
out stars
+ Show Spoiler [soul wins] +
cj vs ace
+ Show Spoiler [cj wins] +
1st SKT
2nd khan
3rd KT
4th CJ
out stars
+ Show Spoiler [ace wins] +
1st SKT
2nd khan
3rd KT
4th stars
out CJ



summary: khan, stars, kt, and cj can all be 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or out with the correct conditions. stars can win and not make the playoffs, and they can lose and still make the playoffs.



It's somewhere in here ^^ Figured I'd post this in general because it's so nifty!
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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 10 2012 14:50 GMT
#135
On March 10 2012 23:33 Saechiis wrote:
Can someone update this to include current results? Trying to figure out what circumstances allow Woongjin to advance but I'm dumb :D


stars advances if:

stars>khan 3-0
OR stars>khan and (kt<8 or cj<ace or cj<stx)
OR cj <ace and cj<stx

stars gets a first round bye if
stars>khan 3-0 and and kt<8 and (cj<ace or cj<stx)
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
March 10 2012 15:01 GMT
#136
So Woongjin really has to win vs Khan to have a decent shot at going to play-offs. I believe!

Thanks for the update
I think esports is pretty nice.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 17:48:39
March 10 2012 16:07 GMT
#137
with 2 almost secure wins for KTflash

Why do people always underestimate ACE potential to pull upsets out of nowhere? :p
Stay tuned for CJ match, which will once again be very high stake game!
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
March 10 2012 17:27 GMT
#138
On March 11 2012 01:07 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
ACE and T8 for KT.. Hmm chances of KT dropping at least 1 among these two games is surely higher than SKT losing to T8

Why do people always underestimate ACE potential to pull upsets out of nowhere? :p
Stay tuned for CJ match, which will once again be very high stake game!


Why do you quote me and then say that? o.O I'm certain i was saying that ACE and T8 have decent chance at beating KT
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 17:48:12
March 10 2012 17:42 GMT
#139
On March 11 2012 02:27 ffreakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 01:07 Hesmyrr wrote:
ACE and T8 for KT.. Hmm chances of KT dropping at least 1 among these two games is surely higher than SKT losing to T8

Why do people always underestimate ACE potential to pull upsets out of nowhere? :p
Stay tuned for CJ match, which will once again be very high stake game!


Why do you quote me and then say that? o.O I'm certain i was saying that ACE and T8 have decent chance at beating KT

Ah. You aren't quien. Had momentary cognitive blindness; I thought you were the one who wrote "with 2 almost secure wins for KTflash" since you replied to the counter-argument ffreak proposed. I thought something was weird with you having SKT tag.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
March 10 2012 18:07 GMT
#140
I can't believe how hard Khan failed. Seriously whenever Khan is up a little they immediately lose.
dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
March 10 2012 22:33 GMT
#141
On March 11 2012 01:07 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
with 2 almost secure wins for KTflash

Why do people always underestimate ACE potential to pull upsets out of nowhere? :p
Stay tuned for CJ match, which will once again be very high stake game!



Overconfidence and greedy play screwed the "almost" secure win, so KT still in the playoff road
see you in the finals, oh wait...
This is the way
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
March 10 2012 22:52 GMT
#142
Anyone have the current standings? The liquidpedia page isn't up-to-date.
Moderator
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
March 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#143
On March 11 2012 07:52 NrGmonk wrote:
Anyone have the current standings? The liquidpedia page isn't up-to-date.


Just go to the latest LR. Someone's always there to screencap it.

On March 10 2012 16:15 Memphis404 wrote:
Current standings:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 23:29:53
March 10 2012 23:28 GMT
#144
nvm im dumb =.=;
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
March 10 2012 23:58 GMT
#145
On March 11 2012 07:33 quien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 01:07 Hesmyrr wrote:
with 2 almost secure wins for KTflash

Why do people always underestimate ACE potential to pull upsets out of nowhere? :p
Stay tuned for CJ match, which will once again be very high stake game!



Overconfidence and greedy play screwed the "almost" secure win, so KT still in the playoff road
see you in the finals, oh wait...


You're being bitter against ACE, really?

Really?
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
March 11 2012 00:11 GMT
#146
On March 11 2012 08:58 Carefree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 07:33 quien wrote:
On March 11 2012 01:07 Hesmyrr wrote:
with 2 almost secure wins for KTflash

Why do people always underestimate ACE potential to pull upsets out of nowhere? :p
Stay tuned for CJ match, which will once again be very high stake game!



Overconfidence and greedy play screwed the "almost" secure win, so KT still in the playoff road
see you in the finals, oh wait...


You're being bitter against ACE, really?

Really?


You lose nothing cheering for the under dog, fans being fans, don't start arguments.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
March 11 2012 00:18 GMT
#147
On March 11 2012 09:11 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 08:58 Carefree wrote:
On March 11 2012 07:33 quien wrote:
On March 11 2012 01:07 Hesmyrr wrote:
with 2 almost secure wins for KTflash

Why do people always underestimate ACE potential to pull upsets out of nowhere? :p
Stay tuned for CJ match, which will once again be very high stake game!



Overconfidence and greedy play screwed the "almost" secure win, so KT still in the playoff road
see you in the finals, oh wait...


You're being bitter against ACE, really?

Really?


You lose nothing cheering for the under dog, fans being fans, don't start arguments.


Not sure what you mean
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
March 11 2012 00:19 GMT
#148
On March 11 2012 08:58 Carefree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 07:33 quien wrote:
On March 11 2012 01:07 Hesmyrr wrote:
with 2 almost secure wins for KTflash

Why do people always underestimate ACE potential to pull upsets out of nowhere? :p
Stay tuned for CJ match, which will once again be very high stake game!



Overconfidence and greedy play screwed the "almost" secure win, so KT still in the playoff road
see you in the finals, oh wait...


You're being bitter against ACE, really?

Really?



Obviously, Telecoms final on menu.
This is the way
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
March 11 2012 00:27 GMT
#149
Come on Woongjin, I believe in you! Let's do it!!!
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
March 11 2012 01:53 GMT
#150
For up to date rankings download the kespa proleague app.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
March 11 2012 02:19 GMT
#151
Can cj get in?
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ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
March 11 2012 03:51 GMT
#152
On March 11 2012 11:19 iSometric wrote:
Can cj get in?


Theoretically yes, more likely than Woongjin too. They have better differential, and their opponents (STX, ACE) are relatively weaker than Woongjin's (KHAN)
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 04:01:19
March 11 2012 03:57 GMT
#153
On March 11 2012 12:51 ffreakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 11:19 iSometric wrote:
Can cj get in?


Theoretically yes, more likely than Woongjin too. They have better differential, and their opponents (STX, ACE) are relatively weaker than Woongjin's (KHAN)

CJ loses today: KT and Khan qualifies
Then Stars wins: Stars qualifies

CJ wins today: We go to the final match (CJ vs ACE) unless Stars lose today.

SOMETHING I MISCALCULATED:

CJ wins then Stars wins 3:0 -> If KT wins against Team 8 then CJ wins against ACE, Khan is out, I will literally lmao if this happens.

KT out scenario: CJ wins twice and Stars win, then KT loses.
ppp
catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
March 11 2012 04:06 GMT
#154
holy moly... rooting for stars. gogo!
^^
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
March 11 2012 05:28 GMT
#155
Update current standing:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


CJ and stars fight for the last spot now.
Die-hard KeSPA fan
sToFu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States189 Posts
March 11 2012 05:36 GMT
#156
Clarification on rankings and playoff positions (Khan v. Woongjin, KT v T8, CJ v Ace remaining at time of writing). Distinction between 3rd and 4th is not made because it doesn't affect playoff seeding.

SKT - 1st place
Khan, KT - Playoffs spot clinched.

Khan v. Woongjin
Khan wins
In this case, Khan takes second place in the playoffs. KT is relegated to 3rd/4th, and the KT v T8 game doesn't matter anymore. CJ decides its own fate, and gets into playoffs if they beat Ace.

Khan loses
There are two possible scenarios here. In both of them, Woongjin gets into the playoffs, and CJ is out. However, placing is still uncertain. If Khan loses 0:3, it is relegated to 3rd/4th place. KT takes second if they beat Team 8; Woongjin if KT loses. However, if Khan loses, but not 0:3, then Woongjin cannot make second place. However, if KT beats Team 8, then they take second place. Otherwise, Khan is second.


jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 09:31:08
March 11 2012 09:28 GMT
#157
According to kespa the current ranking is as follows:

1. SKT 13-8 ; +18
2. Samsung 13-8; +5
3. KT 11-9; +10
4. Woongjin 11-10; -5
5. CJ 10-10; 2

6. STX 10-11; -6
7.Team8 8-12;-6
8. ACE 6-14; -20

So this means:
-STX, Team8, and ACE are out!
-SKT finishes as 1st,
-Samsung finishes as 2nd,
-KT finishes as 3rd.

KT still has to play Team8, but this game is completely irrelevant for both, even if KT loses 0-3 they still have +7 and CJ can have at most +5.

CJ have to play ACE. This game is important, if they lose Woongjin is 4th, if they win CJ will be going into playoffs.
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
March 11 2012 10:26 GMT
#158
^Then let's hope ACE wins again.
ggaemo fan
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
March 11 2012 10:47 GMT
#159
I bet woongjin will now be sending alot of fried chicken to Airforce ACE.
Woo Jung Ho
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
March 11 2012 11:34 GMT
#160
On March 11 2012 19:47 iLoveKT wrote:
I bet woongjin will now be sending alot of fried chicken to Airforce ACE.


Probably mean KT? But yea, I think CJ vs ACE is the more interesting game either.
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
March 11 2012 12:23 GMT
#161
T1 and KT are scum.

Stars shall be Victorious!

gogo Khan vs Stars Finals. I think it's not possible though. lol

Stars vs T1. gogogogo!
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
March 11 2012 12:32 GMT
#162
On March 11 2012 20:34 jaQi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 19:47 iLoveKT wrote:
I bet woongjin will now be sending alot of fried chicken to Airforce ACE.


Probably mean KT? But yea, I think CJ vs ACE is the more interesting game either.

hmm? KT already secured 3rd. woongjin needs cj to lose to ace so they advance as 4th, but I shouldnt be explaining this anymore.
Woo Jung Ho
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
March 11 2012 12:51 GMT
#163
On March 11 2012 21:32 iLoveKT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 20:34 jaQi wrote:
On March 11 2012 19:47 iLoveKT wrote:
I bet woongjin will now be sending alot of fried chicken to Airforce ACE.


Probably mean KT? But yea, I think CJ vs ACE is the more interesting game either.

hmm? KT already secured 3rd. woongjin needs cj to lose to ace so they advance as 4th, but I shouldnt be explaining this anymore.


T1 is already secured for the finals right?
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
March 11 2012 13:16 GMT
#164
Gonna be cheering for ACE so hard. Bahhh, Woongjin should've clinched it last night
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
March 11 2012 13:49 GMT
#165
On March 11 2012 21:32 iLoveKT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 20:34 jaQi wrote:
On March 11 2012 19:47 iLoveKT wrote:
I bet woongjin will now be sending alot of fried chicken to Airforce ACE.


Probably mean KT? But yea, I think CJ vs ACE is the more interesting game either.

hmm? KT already secured 3rd. woongjin needs cj to lose to ace so they advance as 4th, but I shouldnt be explaining this anymore.


Ah I completely misunderstood you sentence, I thought you mean chickens as players against ACE, but woongjin is not even playing anymore. Just forget it, my fault!
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 13:50:34
March 11 2012 13:50 GMT
#166
On March 11 2012 21:51 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 21:32 iLoveKT wrote:
On March 11 2012 20:34 jaQi wrote:
On March 11 2012 19:47 iLoveKT wrote:
I bet woongjin will now be sending alot of fried chicken to Airforce ACE.


Probably mean KT? But yea, I think CJ vs ACE is the more interesting game either.

hmm? KT already secured 3rd. woongjin needs cj to lose to ace so they advance as 4th, but I shouldnt be explaining this anymore.


T1 is already secured for the finals right?


Read one page earlier. They secured the first place.

//edit: sorry for double post.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
March 12 2012 00:56 GMT
#167
yep. basically.
CJ/Woongjin vs KT

winner vs Khan

winner vs T1.

It would really be heartbreaking for CJ if they lose to ACE. cant even imagine how the players are gonna feel.
Woo Jung Ho
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