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PH
United States6173 Posts
I play between 150-180 and I suck ass. I've beaten players with 300+APM before. I've lost to players with 90APM before. (They were protoss, go figure) Having a higher APM can mean two different things...either you're that great at multitasking, or you're that great at button mashing. Try to play faster, don't try to hit keys faster. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
This guide for mechanics goes over that a bit I believe. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12237 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On November 05 2009 15:24 PH wrote: APM itself is useless. I know a guy who's taken games off of progamers who plays at like 180-220 max. Normally he plays ~150 -_-. I play between 150-180 and I suck ass. I've beaten players with 300+APM before. I've lost to players with 90APM before. (They were protoss, go figure) Having a higher APM can mean two different things...either you're that great at multitasking, or you're that great at button mashing. Try to play faster, don't try to hit keys faster. replays?? | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
It's Dino. I really don't feel like drawing extra attention by asking him for reps and posting them here. If you want current reps of him smashing lower level players, pick up his reps from the CSL+ replay packs. He plays for my school. | ||
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
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Drakonis
Canada97 Posts
No not a pro-gamer, but good enough not to get stomped on by the average-everyday-player. I guess I'll just have to start practicing my multitasking ability, but I don't really mind doing that because it just means I have to play more starcraft. | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
i'm a d+ zerg, and my apm are around 120 - but currently i'm improving rather quickly, because i've simply stopped spamming. NEVER start spamming just to get high APM. it totally fucks up your game, because you can't concentrate on the important things anymore. (micro, macro, timings...) like other people already said: find yourself a hotkey system that suits your physis and style and play a lot. once you've mastered basic concepts like hotkeying you'll start to improve. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
D- 0-50 D 50-100 D+ 100-150 C- 150-200 C 200-250 C+ 250-300 B- 300-350 B 350-400 B+ 400-450 A- 450-500 A 500-550 A+ 550-600 Olympic 600+ | ||
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Phrogs!
Japan521 Posts
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Drakonis
Canada97 Posts
On November 06 2009 03:07 okum wrote: APM is an objective measure of Starcraft skill. You can determine your iccup rank from your APM and vice versa using the following table. D- 0-50 D 50-100 D+ 100-150 C- 150-200 C 200-250 C+ 250-300 B- 300-350 B 350-400 B+ 400-450 A- 450-500 A 500-550 A+ 550-600 Olympic 600+ But then by that logic, in my ZvT game where I had 67 APM, and my opponent had 191 APM, I should have been demolished because he would have been 2 ranks higher than me? | ||
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fAnTaCy
United States893 Posts
On November 06 2009 03:29 Drakonis wrote: But then by that logic, in my ZvT game where I had 67 APM, and my opponent had 191 APM, I should have been demolished because he would have been 2 ranks higher than me? And also by that logic, no one is actually an A/A+/olympic player | ||
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KP_CollectoR
United States744 Posts
On November 06 2009 03:29 Drakonis wrote: But then by that logic, in my ZvT game where I had 67 APM, and my opponent had 191 APM, I should have been demolished because he would have been 2 ranks higher than me? oh god. you do understand that not everyone who types a post is being serious right? | ||
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Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
On November 06 2009 03:29 Drakonis wrote: But then by that logic, in my ZvT game where I had 67 APM, and my opponent had 191 APM, I should have been demolished because he would have been 2 ranks higher than me? I believe okum was joking. EDIT: Cools the three of us posted on the same minute! | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
I'll throw in a couple examples I've seen from past WCG and on myself about this. Last year in Cologne I watched Stork and Nony play. The first at that time had about 220-250 APM, the second about 300. The weird thing is that both of them were really, really slow. Especially Stork, if you see him playing you would never say he could reach 240 APM, yet he does. Same goes for Nony, he was playing right next to Draco who had like 250-270 APM but Draco was way way faster than him, you could see it just watching their monitors. ChinaTTT on the other hand had like 250-300 APM but was probably the fastest player there, by far. This is mostly because the main source of APM is your keyboard, and spamming on your keyboard while playing is very easy if you get used to it. What matters the most in a game is how you use your mouse and that you do the right stuff at the right time. Sometimes it means having 400 APM over 5 seconds is necessary to do all your stuff when you need it, sometimes it means having 150 APM over 10 minutes is enough. Good players tend to keep APM as high as possible to not lose their focus on the game, yet if you can concentrate well you don't really need it, sometimes it might also be bad for your game. There are players with low APM who do good, and they aren't probably much slower than your average 250 APM keyboard spamming guy. The thing I'd recommend to anyone who approaches this game is to not try having high APM at all costs. I injured my wrist some years ago, proud of my useless 400+ spammed APM, and it was totally meaningless. Just play the game and focus on getting faster, and try to understand what comes out from your APM statistics, don't just look at them like they are a trophy. | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
APM is most important for terran/zerg and less so for protoss. Oh and please don't make this into a EAPM vs "spam" thread. Spam has a function obviously | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
After reading it there are actually some pretty good responses, but this is one of those things that are just like wow this is why we have a search function On November 06 2009 03:29 Drakonis wrote: But then by that logic, in my ZvT game where I had 67 APM, and my opponent had 191 APM, I should have been demolished because he would have been 2 ranks higher than me? you do realise in theory it is entirely possible to beat someone better than you | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
On November 05 2009 16:37 KrAzYfoOL wrote: hahahhahaha Dino this alone leads me to believe this is a troll post. LOL | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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