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On February 18 2009 21:40 Mada_Jiang wrote:
For some of who has directed comments and questions at me, forgive me if I don't respond. I speak to everyone here how I would speak to someone if I was face to face with them, and I try my best to be an encouragement to who ever I can. That is why if you are aiming comments at me as a personal attack, to vent your frustration, to make a statement of aggression based on your assumptions, or to ask me a question that you clearly don't want an answer from, then I wont be responding. To you I pray that peace be with you.
If you have a genuine question, or some thoughts you would like to share with me I would be more than happy to fellowship with you. Post your thoughts here, PM me or email me, or if you are a Sydney-sider, I'd be more than happy to meet for a coffee during business hours ^.^ I hope that we can be an encouragement and an edification to each other.
If your language of preference is Chinese or Japanese please also let me know. ^.^
on what do you base your assertion that the atom, or anything else in nature, requires a designer?
that is an honest question. it was an honest question the first time too.
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On February 18 2009 21:09 IdrA wrote:
non-christians asked their deity and got just as clear an answer
whats up with that?
that is a valid, honest question as well.
all deeply religious people of all denominations share your faith, what makes you right? and you cant rely on 'knowing your god' because everyone else can claim the same thing.
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On February 18 2009 15:38 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2009 14:45 Jerebread wrote:On February 18 2009 13:31 travis wrote:On February 18 2009 13:17 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On February 18 2009 13:16 travis wrote:
did jesus ever say that people went to hell for eternity, or did he just say that hell existed eternally ?
p.s: why isn't the bible centered around the teachings of jesus if jesus was god ? the new testament completely is well, I never studied the bible much, as is probably evident from the last question I asked... but... how did the teachings of such a simple man end up to be hundreds of pages and written by.. how many different authors? I guess it makes sense in a way, it's just that. does no one see how backwards that is? just from personal experience of studying buddhism, i'd rather a one page lesson from buddha than an encyclopedia written by his disciples. Hi travis, if I may answer, correct me if I am wrong, but you didn't really ask a question? Is the backwardsness in regard to how simple teachings can be made into what we have as the Bible today? If so, I hope this answers some of your questions. -the new testament can be divided into 'two sections': 1, The 4 Gospels (biographies of Jesus' life) 2. Letters written by apostles, mainly concerning Christian living (this addresses a whole variety of issues, take your pick) As for reading a one page lesson from buddha, Jesus 'one-up's' this by encompassing all of God's commandments into two. (Which I'm sure you have heard of in some form or another.)
Taken from Matthew 22:37-40
1. 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
2. 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' Thank you for the reply. I took the liberty of bolding some of your post (in my quote). I guess my question is basically, "why is this not the focus of christianity?"
Hi Travis,
I believe that is the focus of Christianity (The two commandments. I must say here that if one thinks about it, it does encompass pretty much everything possible. 1. Relationship with God and 2. Relationships with others.).
If this is not what you percieve Christianity to be about, may I ask what do you think the focus has shifted to?
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On February 17 2009 15:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2009 15:23 Mada_Jiang wrote:
For all those who are reading or contributing to this thread, I strongly encourage you to communicate with God him self and get your answers. If he is a loving father he wouldn't leave you in the dark. Rather than reading through how each individual think about religion, step away from that and ask God to reveal him self to you.
For those of you who are getting all worked up arguing with each other and treating each other like you would never do to each other in real life.... I have one suggestion:
Rather than debating over whether heat waves exists, put your self there and feel the heat it self. Once again my email is oni_jiang@hotmail.com. I wont tell you what I think, if you are interested, I will share with you my experiences with God.
I pray that peace will be with you. ^.^ you are stupid. i will not explicate further because you would simply disregard it. peace to you too though.
Wow, dude. The guy offers his hand out to everyone here in a completely friendly and polite manner and you have to insult him and his beliefs? Please stop being a douchebag.
In my opinion, by the way, you are only doing a disservice to humanity by arguing against religion, since, regardless of whether or not it is true, it is necessary for the world all the same.
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On February 19 2009 01:19 Jerebread wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2009 15:38 travis wrote:On February 18 2009 14:45 Jerebread wrote:On February 18 2009 13:31 travis wrote:On February 18 2009 13:17 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On February 18 2009 13:16 travis wrote:
did jesus ever say that people went to hell for eternity, or did he just say that hell existed eternally ?
p.s: why isn't the bible centered around the teachings of jesus if jesus was god ? the new testament completely is well, I never studied the bible much, as is probably evident from the last question I asked... but... how did the teachings of such a simple man end up to be hundreds of pages and written by.. how many different authors? I guess it makes sense in a way, it's just that. does no one see how backwards that is? just from personal experience of studying buddhism, i'd rather a one page lesson from buddha than an encyclopedia written by his disciples. Hi travis, if I may answer, correct me if I am wrong, but you didn't really ask a question? Is the backwardsness in regard to how simple teachings can be made into what we have as the Bible today? If so, I hope this answers some of your questions. -the new testament can be divided into 'two sections': 1, The 4 Gospels (biographies of Jesus' life) 2. Letters written by apostles, mainly concerning Christian living (this addresses a whole variety of issues, take your pick) As for reading a one page lesson from buddha, Jesus 'one-up's' this by encompassing all of God's commandments into two. (Which I'm sure you have heard of in some form or another.)
Taken from Matthew 22:37-40
1. 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
2. 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' Thank you for the reply. I took the liberty of bolding some of your post (in my quote). I guess my question is basically, "why is this not the focus of christianity?" Hi Travis, I believe that is the focus of Christianity (The two commandments. I must say here that if one thinks about it, it does encompass pretty much everything possible. 1. Relationship with God and 2. Relationships with others.). If this is not what you percieve Christianity to be about, may I ask what do you think the focus has shifted to?
faith in jesus christ and that doing so will lead you to salvation
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On February 19 2009 06:16 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2009 01:19 Jerebread wrote:On February 18 2009 15:38 travis wrote:On February 18 2009 14:45 Jerebread wrote:On February 18 2009 13:31 travis wrote:On February 18 2009 13:17 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On February 18 2009 13:16 travis wrote:
did jesus ever say that people went to hell for eternity, or did he just say that hell existed eternally ?
p.s: why isn't the bible centered around the teachings of jesus if jesus was god ? the new testament completely is well, I never studied the bible much, as is probably evident from the last question I asked... but... how did the teachings of such a simple man end up to be hundreds of pages and written by.. how many different authors? I guess it makes sense in a way, it's just that. does no one see how backwards that is? just from personal experience of studying buddhism, i'd rather a one page lesson from buddha than an encyclopedia written by his disciples. Hi travis, if I may answer, correct me if I am wrong, but you didn't really ask a question? Is the backwardsness in regard to how simple teachings can be made into what we have as the Bible today? If so, I hope this answers some of your questions. -the new testament can be divided into 'two sections': 1, The 4 Gospels (biographies of Jesus' life) 2. Letters written by apostles, mainly concerning Christian living (this addresses a whole variety of issues, take your pick) As for reading a one page lesson from buddha, Jesus 'one-up's' this by encompassing all of God's commandments into two. (Which I'm sure you have heard of in some form or another.)
Taken from Matthew 22:37-40
1. 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
2. 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' Thank you for the reply. I took the liberty of bolding some of your post (in my quote). I guess my question is basically, "why is this not the focus of christianity?" Hi Travis, I believe that is the focus of Christianity (The two commandments. I must say here that if one thinks about it, it does encompass pretty much everything possible. 1. Relationship with God and 2. Relationships with others.). If this is not what you percieve Christianity to be about, may I ask what do you think the focus has shifted to? faith in jesus christ and that doing so will lead you to salvation
I believe that is covered in the first commandment.
edit: Are you familiar with the concept of the triune God? (the Trinity)
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On February 19 2009 06:49 Jerebread wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2009 06:16 travis wrote:On February 19 2009 01:19 Jerebread wrote:On February 18 2009 15:38 travis wrote:On February 18 2009 14:45 Jerebread wrote:On February 18 2009 13:31 travis wrote:On February 18 2009 13:17 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On February 18 2009 13:16 travis wrote:
did jesus ever say that people went to hell for eternity, or did he just say that hell existed eternally ?
p.s: why isn't the bible centered around the teachings of jesus if jesus was god ? the new testament completely is well, I never studied the bible much, as is probably evident from the last question I asked... but... how did the teachings of such a simple man end up to be hundreds of pages and written by.. how many different authors? I guess it makes sense in a way, it's just that. does no one see how backwards that is? just from personal experience of studying buddhism, i'd rather a one page lesson from buddha than an encyclopedia written by his disciples. Hi travis, if I may answer, correct me if I am wrong, but you didn't really ask a question? Is the backwardsness in regard to how simple teachings can be made into what we have as the Bible today? If so, I hope this answers some of your questions. -the new testament can be divided into 'two sections': 1, The 4 Gospels (biographies of Jesus' life) 2. Letters written by apostles, mainly concerning Christian living (this addresses a whole variety of issues, take your pick) As for reading a one page lesson from buddha, Jesus 'one-up's' this by encompassing all of God's commandments into two. (Which I'm sure you have heard of in some form or another.)
Taken from Matthew 22:37-40
1. 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
2. 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' Thank you for the reply. I took the liberty of bolding some of your post (in my quote). I guess my question is basically, "why is this not the focus of christianity?" Hi Travis, I believe that is the focus of Christianity (The two commandments. I must say here that if one thinks about it, it does encompass pretty much everything possible. 1. Relationship with God and 2. Relationships with others.). If this is not what you percieve Christianity to be about, may I ask what do you think the focus has shifted to? faith in jesus christ and that doing so will lead you to salvation I believe that is covered in the first commandment. edit: Are you familiar with the concept of the triune God? (the Trinity)
I've heard of it though I don't quite understand the concept of the holy ghost. But I never thought it mattered hehe.
anyways I am not disagreeing that "faith in jesus christ and that doing so will lead you to salvation" is covered in the 1st of the 2 commandments you listed. what I am saying is that "faith in jesus christ and that doing so will lead you to salvation" seems to be the focal point of christianity, rather than the 2 commandments you listed.
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On February 19 2009 00:02 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2009 21:09 IdrA wrote:
non-christians asked their deity and got just as clear an answer
whats up with that?
that is a valid, honest question as well. all deeply religious people of all denominations share your faith, what makes you right? and you cant rely on 'knowing your god' because everyone else can claim the same thing.
On February 18 2009 23:57 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2009 21:40 Mada_Jiang wrote:
For some of who has directed comments and questions at me, forgive me if I don't respond. I speak to everyone here how I would speak to someone if I was face to face with them, and I try my best to be an encouragement to who ever I can. That is why if you are aiming comments at me as a personal attack, to vent your frustration, to make a statement of aggression based on your assumptions, or to ask me a question that you clearly don't want an answer from, then I wont be responding. To you I pray that peace be with you.
If you have a genuine question, or some thoughts you would like to share with me I would be more than happy to fellowship with you. Post your thoughts here, PM me or email me, or if you are a Sydney-sider, I'd be more than happy to meet for a coffee during business hours ^.^ I hope that we can be an encouragement and an edification to each other.
If your language of preference is Chinese or Japanese please also let me know. ^.^ on what do you base your assertion that the atom, or anything else in nature, requires a designer? that is an honest question. it was an honest question the first time too.
Would any of you believers please respond to Idra's posts?
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On February 19 2009 05:07 NeVeR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2009 15:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On February 17 2009 15:23 Mada_Jiang wrote:
For all those who are reading or contributing to this thread, I strongly encourage you to communicate with God him self and get your answers. If he is a loving father he wouldn't leave you in the dark. Rather than reading through how each individual think about religion, step away from that and ask God to reveal him self to you.
For those of you who are getting all worked up arguing with each other and treating each other like you would never do to each other in real life.... I have one suggestion:
Rather than debating over whether heat waves exists, put your self there and feel the heat it self. Once again my email is oni_jiang@hotmail.com. I wont tell you what I think, if you are interested, I will share with you my experiences with God.
I pray that peace will be with you. ^.^ you are stupid. i will not explicate further because you would simply disregard it. peace to you too though. Wow, dude. The guy offers his hand out to everyone here in a completely friendly and polite manner and you have to insult him and his beliefs? Please stop being a douchebag. In my opinion, by the way, you are only doing a disservice to humanity by arguing against religion, since, regardless of whether or not it is true, it is necessary for the world all the same.
how is it necessary?
certainly people can gain comfort from it, that doesnt mean its necessary or that its a net good. and one could argue that the comfort itself is not a good thing if its based on false premises.
and he deserves to be insulted, hes refusing to answer any post that legitly challenges his stance.
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On February 19 2009 06:49 Jerebread wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2009 06:16 travis wrote:On February 19 2009 01:19 Jerebread wrote:On February 18 2009 15:38 travis wrote:On February 18 2009 14:45 Jerebread wrote:On February 18 2009 13:31 travis wrote:On February 18 2009 13:17 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On February 18 2009 13:16 travis wrote:
did jesus ever say that people went to hell for eternity, or did he just say that hell existed eternally ?
p.s: why isn't the bible centered around the teachings of jesus if jesus was god ? the new testament completely is well, I never studied the bible much, as is probably evident from the last question I asked... but... how did the teachings of such a simple man end up to be hundreds of pages and written by.. how many different authors? I guess it makes sense in a way, it's just that. does no one see how backwards that is? just from personal experience of studying buddhism, i'd rather a one page lesson from buddha than an encyclopedia written by his disciples. Hi travis, if I may answer, correct me if I am wrong, but you didn't really ask a question? Is the backwardsness in regard to how simple teachings can be made into what we have as the Bible today? If so, I hope this answers some of your questions. -the new testament can be divided into 'two sections': 1, The 4 Gospels (biographies of Jesus' life) 2. Letters written by apostles, mainly concerning Christian living (this addresses a whole variety of issues, take your pick) As for reading a one page lesson from buddha, Jesus 'one-up's' this by encompassing all of God's commandments into two. (Which I'm sure you have heard of in some form or another.)
Taken from Matthew 22:37-40
1. 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
2. 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' Thank you for the reply. I took the liberty of bolding some of your post (in my quote). I guess my question is basically, "why is this not the focus of christianity?" Hi Travis, I believe that is the focus of Christianity (The two commandments. I must say here that if one thinks about it, it does encompass pretty much everything possible. 1. Relationship with God and 2. Relationships with others.). If this is not what you percieve Christianity to be about, may I ask what do you think the focus has shifted to? faith in jesus christ and that doing so will lead you to salvation I believe that is covered in the first commandment. edit: Are you familiar with the concept of the triune God? (the Trinity)
three persons in one God
Replace "God" with "human" and you have someone with dissociative identity disorder!
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On February 19 2009 09:46 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2009 05:07 NeVeR wrote:On February 17 2009 15:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On February 17 2009 15:23 Mada_Jiang wrote:
For all those who are reading or contributing to this thread, I strongly encourage you to communicate with God him self and get your answers. If he is a loving father he wouldn't leave you in the dark. Rather than reading through how each individual think about religion, step away from that and ask God to reveal him self to you.
For those of you who are getting all worked up arguing with each other and treating each other like you would never do to each other in real life.... I have one suggestion:
Rather than debating over whether heat waves exists, put your self there and feel the heat it self. Once again my email is oni_jiang@hotmail.com. I wont tell you what I think, if you are interested, I will share with you my experiences with God.
I pray that peace will be with you. ^.^ you are stupid. i will not explicate further because you would simply disregard it. peace to you too though. Wow, dude. The guy offers his hand out to everyone here in a completely friendly and polite manner and you have to insult him and his beliefs? Please stop being a douchebag. In my opinion, by the way, you are only doing a disservice to humanity by arguing against religion, since, regardless of whether or not it is true, it is necessary for the world all the same. how is it necessary? certainly people can gain comfort from it, that doesnt mean its necessary or that its a net good. and one could argue that the comfort itself is not a good thing if its based on false premises. and he deserves to be insulted, hes refusing to answer any post that legitly challenges his stance.
IdrA, you just don't get it. What he said what "legitimate" and fully presents his view. I don't know what you think this thread is but it's a BLOG not a DEBATE thread. Just because you don't believe what he said is true doesn't mean it should be shut down. Don't argue against this. You know that if you believed what he said was true that you wouldn't say "and he deserves to be insulted".
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ruXxar, if you're not going to read my posts, then I won't waste time writing anything more. I answered your questions and gave examples. However, like I said, I doubt they would be enough for you.
Anyway, I'm taking a break. If any of you have something to ask or say to me, you can PM me. Have fun!
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On February 19 2009 11:31 Mada_Jiang wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2009 05:07 NeVeR wrote:On February 17 2009 15:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On February 17 2009 15:23 Mada_Jiang wrote:
For all those who are reading or contributing to this thread, I strongly encourage you to communicate with God him self and get your answers. If he is a loving father he wouldn't leave you in the dark. Rather than reading through how each individual think about religion, step away from that and ask God to reveal him self to you.
For those of you who are getting all worked up arguing with each other and treating each other like you would never do to each other in real life.... I have one suggestion:
Rather than debating over whether heat waves exists, put your self there and feel the heat it self. Once again my email is oni_jiang@hotmail.com. I wont tell you what I think, if you are interested, I will share with you my experiences with God.
I pray that peace will be with you. ^.^ you are stupid. i will not explicate further because you would simply disregard it. peace to you too though. Wow, dude. The guy offers his hand out to everyone here in a completely friendly and polite manner and you have to insult him and his beliefs? Please stop being a douchebag. In my opinion, by the way, you are only doing a disservice to humanity by arguing against religion, since, regardless of whether or not it is true, it is necessary for the world all the same. Hi Never ^.^ I am not insulted at all but thanks a lot for your concern. I dunno if it is because of bad past experiences with Christians or what, but it seems that a lot of hot blooded young people respond to Christians with aggression only instead being able to talk like civilised adults.
Hi Mada ^.^
I don't know if you've noticed my other posts in this thread, but I have only been aggressive towards you and TechniQ.UK (and the Christian here and there who tries to use Physics incorrectly, which I kind of take personally), because you two represent the most dogmatic Christians in this thread . I have explicated multiple times on why I hate this kind of dogma, and the fact that you keep ignoring points that were made and saying essentially "once you open up to God, you'll see" is particularly bothersome to me for reasons I've already stated. To all the Christians who have been trying to answer my points without this kind of dogmatic "reasoning," I have been much more civil.
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Is there some rule that he has to reply to you?
If you think he isn't answering your questions that is fine but there is no reason to be rude or insulting to someone who seems very polite and pacified.
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On February 19 2009 12:04 travis wrote:
Is there some rule that he has to reply to you?
If you think he isn't answering your questions that is fine but there is no reason to be rude or insulting to someone who seems very polite and pacified.
no, its just that he kept sporadically coming in, spewing everything in a vacuum, and leaving
he's started to respond to more though, but they all generally have the conclusion of "close your eyes and feel the magic"
once was enough for his purposes
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On February 19 2009 12:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2009 12:04 travis wrote:
Is there some rule that he has to reply to you?
If you think he isn't answering your questions that is fine but there is no reason to be rude or insulting to someone who seems very polite and pacified. no, its just that he kept sporadically coming in, spewing everything in a vacuum, and leaving he's started to respond to more though, but they all generally have the conclusion of "close your eyes and feel the magic" once was enough for his purposes
To you this is "spewing" but from my point of view his responses are proper.
If you feel otherwise there's STILL no need to degrade yourself to "spewing" insults.
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On February 19 2009 08:02 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2009 06:49 Jerebread wrote:On February 19 2009 06:16 travis wrote:On February 19 2009 01:19 Jerebread wrote:On February 18 2009 15:38 travis wrote:On February 18 2009 14:45 Jerebread wrote:On February 18 2009 13:31 travis wrote:On February 18 2009 13:17 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On February 18 2009 13:16 travis wrote:
did jesus ever say that people went to hell for eternity, or did he just say that hell existed eternally ?
p.s: why isn't the bible centered around the teachings of jesus if jesus was god ? the new testament completely is well, I never studied the bible much, as is probably evident from the last question I asked... but... how did the teachings of such a simple man end up to be hundreds of pages and written by.. how many different authors? I guess it makes sense in a way, it's just that. does no one see how backwards that is? just from personal experience of studying buddhism, i'd rather a one page lesson from buddha than an encyclopedia written by his disciples. Hi travis, if I may answer, correct me if I am wrong, but you didn't really ask a question? Is the backwardsness in regard to how simple teachings can be made into what we have as the Bible today? If so, I hope this answers some of your questions. -the new testament can be divided into 'two sections': 1, The 4 Gospels (biographies of Jesus' life) 2. Letters written by apostles, mainly concerning Christian living (this addresses a whole variety of issues, take your pick) As for reading a one page lesson from buddha, Jesus 'one-up's' this by encompassing all of God's commandments into two. (Which I'm sure you have heard of in some form or another.)
Taken from Matthew 22:37-40
1. 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
2. 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' Thank you for the reply. I took the liberty of bolding some of your post (in my quote). I guess my question is basically, "why is this not the focus of christianity?" Hi Travis, I believe that is the focus of Christianity (The two commandments. I must say here that if one thinks about it, it does encompass pretty much everything possible. 1. Relationship with God and 2. Relationships with others.). If this is not what you percieve Christianity to be about, may I ask what do you think the focus has shifted to? faith in jesus christ and that doing so will lead you to salvation I believe that is covered in the first commandment. edit: Are you familiar with the concept of the triune God? (the Trinity) I've heard of it though I don't quite understand the concept of the holy ghost. But I never thought it mattered hehe. anyways I am not disagreeing that "faith in jesus christ and that doing so will lead you to salvation" is covered in the 1st of the 2 commandments you listed. what I am saying is that "faith in jesus christ and that doing so will lead you to salvation" seems to be the focal point of christianity, rather than the 2 commandments you listed.
Hi Travis,
So if 'faith in Jesus Christ and that doing so will lead you to salvation' is covered in the focal points of the two commandments, is there a problem? Being included in the commandments does not take away from the focus.
The holy spirit/ghost is the third part of the trinity. The first and second being God the father, and God the son (Jesus).
An common analogy used to describe the trinity is the concept of an egg. What is an egg made of? The shell, the egg white, and the yolk. 3 parts in one, all making up the egg.
I hope that made it a little clearer for you, analogies are not always perfect =/
On February 19 2009 10:13 Mindcrime wrote:
three persons in one God
Replace "God" with "human" and you have someone with dissociative identity disorder!
Hi Mindcrime,
Are you trying to make a funny or trying to contribute to the discussion?
If you're trying to make a joke... props, good one.
If you're trying to add to the discussion, I explained the concept a little earlier in the post.
On February 19 2009 00:02 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2009 21:09 IdrA wrote:
non-christians asked their deity and got just as clear an answer
whats up with that?
that is a valid, honest question as well. all deeply religious people of all denominations share your faith, what makes you right? and you cant rely on 'knowing your god' because everyone else can claim the same thing.
Hi Idra,
What makes my faith right more right than other religions is your question, correct?
Let me begin by saying that the conflict that most people have in their minds is the admirable quality of tolerance for different viewpoints, particularly religious ones, and the position that all views have equal validity. We can be tolerant by respecting the rights of others to hold alternative viewpoints without degenerating into verbal harassment (see above posts), yet still be firmly committed to believing that one point is true.
With that said, lets get into the good stuff.
The assumption by many is that all religions are basically the same is blatantly incorrect. A few of you have touched on this, and rightly so.
At this point, we have established that all religions are NOT the same, and that they cannot all be true.
See spoiler for a tidbit on Eastern religions
+ Show Spoiler +Although there are similarities, the differences are very significant. Eastern religions teach “monism” (all is one), that each person is a part of everything, including God, and that ultimately one needs to lose oneself in "the all" like a drop of water losing itself in the ocean. Christianity, however, affirms that each person is a unique individual and will remain such after death. Christianity teaches that God loves us; an impersonal, eastern god cannot love us. Obviously all religions are not the same; they contradict one another. Therefore they cannot all be true.
Next, simply put, - my God claims to be God. Now you (the audience in general) might be sitting there thinking, that's a retarded, self-validating statement. But, when you look into the other faiths of the world, you come to find that Jesus is the only one who made such claims.
Now if Jesus claims to be God, then there must be things about his life that back that up, otherwise, he's just a liar, or a crazy guy. Aside from the many miracles that he performed (eg. healing the blind/deaf/mute/terminally ill/raising the dead), the greatest testament to his divinity, is in his resurrection.
Jesus could only have been one of four things: a legend, a liar, a lunatic--or Lord and God. There is so much historical and archeological evidence to support his existence that every reputable historian agrees he was not just a legend. If he were a liar, why would he die for his claim + Show Spoiler +(Just in case anyone decides to make a comment about suicide bombers, just... lol, two very different things.),
So, a rather long post, but there you have it:
Why is my faith more correct than other faiths? God is God.
Idra, I hope that has answered your question, feel free to disagree with it, let me know what you think. I have a couple of questions for you myself, pardon me if you've answered them in previous posts that I have not read, please repost it if you have.
You said in previous posts that you are an agnostic, but for all intents and purpose, an atheist.
I will address you as coming from the atheist perspective if that's ok then?
I would like to know what your take is on this classic teleological argument for a creator?
-Complexity implies a designer.
-The universe is highly complex.
-Therefore, the universe has a designer.
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