EPTmake a rational argument or get out
btw burden of proof is on you for spaghetti monster reasons. its unlikely god exists until you demonstrate otherwise.
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
make a rational argument or get out btw burden of proof is on you for spaghetti monster reasons. its unlikely god exists until you demonstrate otherwise. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On February 18 2009 14:45 Jerebread wrote: Hi travis, if I may answer, correct me if I am wrong, but you didn't really ask a question? Is the backwardsness in regard to how simple teachings can be made into what we have as the Bible today? If so, I hope this answers some of your questions. -the new testament can be divided into 'two sections': 1, The 4 Gospels (biographies of Jesus' life) 2. Letters written by apostles, mainly concerning Christian living (this addresses a whole variety of issues, take your pick) As for reading a one page lesson from buddha, Jesus 'one-up's' this by encompassing all of God's commandments into two. (Which I'm sure you have heard of in some form or another.) Taken from Matthew 22:37-40 1. 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' 2. 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' Thank you for the reply. I took the liberty of bolding some of your post (in my quote). I guess my question is basically, "why is this not the focus of christianity?" | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On February 18 2009 15:33 IdrA wrote: die in a pit make a rational argument or get out btw burden of proof is on you for spaghetti monster reasons. its unlikely god exists until you demonstrate otherwise. Personal experience trumps physical evidence | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
dont expect anyone else to buy your bullshit cuz you had a hallucination and this is a forum, we're having a discussion, so until you have something that holds weight in a discussion kindly fuck off. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On February 18 2009 15:39 BanZu wrote: Personal experience trumps physical evidence even though Idra made great posts imo - I definitely have to agree with this. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On February 18 2009 15:41 IdrA wrote: for you maybe dont expect anyone else to buy your bullshit cuz you had a hallucination and this is a forum, we're having a discussion, so until you have something that holds weight in a discussion kindly fuck off. for you as well. if and when im not saying you're wrong and im not saying that personal experience constitutes objective evidence for or against anything but it really doesn't matter when we are each our own universe. the entirety of our lives comes down to our own individual experiences. it doesn't even have to make sense | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
there, logical discourse just died. why are you posting here? | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
unless he makes me stupid in the process, if god shows up in my head i wont expect that to make anyone ELSE believe in him. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
it still wouldnt affect other people in the slightest. | ||
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
2: why is faith universally considered virtuous in religious circles? if we know we can only sanely 'choose' to love god therefore we arent making a choice at all? the very idea choosing to believe in the uncertain...just 'cause...makes no sense. man tells me to believe in god and yet man is a liar and a sinner, how can i have faith in him? god tells me to believe in him and then i know, how can i have faith, how can i choose to love and accept him if i know i have to. faith does not function. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jediism May the force be with you, young padawan. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
Again, just like TechniQ, don't pretend to know physics to advance your argument. His BS about the big bang was wrong and your BS about the 20 constants could be very wrong as well. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On February 18 2009 15:41 IdrA wrote: for you maybe dont expect anyone else to buy your bullshit cuz you had a hallucination and this is a forum, we're having a discussion, so until you have something that holds weight in a discussion kindly fuck off. I never said you had to buy into it, nor am I trying to convince you. Lmao @ "hallucination" No need to be a prick, IdrA. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
you were being condescending because i dont believe in a big invisible man in the sky rofl of course im gonna be a prick. if you arent trying to convince anyone why are you posting if someone says vishnu talks to them in their head, or appears to them, what are you gonna think? either its a hallucination, or fabrication of their mind in some way, or vishnu is really communicating with them. if you think its a hallucination, what makes it different from your experience? if you think its real, how can both gods coexist given that yours says there arent any others? | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On February 18 2009 16:19 IdrA wrote: ? you were being condescending because i dont believe in a big invisible man in the sky rofl of course im gonna be a prick. if you arent trying to convince anyone why are you posting if someone says vishnu talks to them in their head, or appears to them, what are you gonna think? either its a hallucination, or fabrication of their mind in some way, or vishnu is really communicating with them. if you think its a hallucination, what makes it different from your experience? if you think its real, how can both gods coexist given that yours says there arent any others? I don't know how in the world you interpreted what I said as being condescending but I didn't mean it that way at all. I'm not trying to convince anyone because I know that discussing religion doesn't work at all, much less on the internet. I'm just inserting my input, as are you. Just because I believe in God doesn't mean I'm a narrow-minded individual who think that he's better than everyone else and yells out "you're going to hell for your sins!!!" whenever someone disagrees with me. I know from a non-believer's perspective that it's hard to buy into what a Christian says and that arguments and yelling won't change anything. Plus, I never said anything about a hallucination. I've never had one before and no one I know has had one either. As to your example, I honestly don't know. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
Just because you can't understand God and the matters related to Him doesn't mean it's unlikely He exists. certainly sounds condescending to me except you dont have any input, whereas my input is something that can be held to logic analysis and so can be discussed. so you are worthless here, i am not. you did not say hallucination, i did. you said 'personal experience' which generally means you have had 'personal contact' with god, which means you have had a hallucination or something similar in which you believe you have seen or spoken to god or jesus. if 'personal experience' meant something else im curious as to what it meant. if it did indeed mean contact with god then the point i posed about vishnu still stands, and understandably you have no response. that often happens when you hold an illogical stance. | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On February 18 2009 16:39 3clipse wrote: Do you have to count to ten and think of calm, flowing streams whenever you meet a fundementalist Protoss IdrA? rofl "that dt drop was god acting through my very fingers, please don't call me a faggot" | ||
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