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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
November 19 2008 02:41 GMT
#1
I bet you can!
http://ia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlingua

your mind's gonna be like 'aw hell naw this is italian!' but just read the text and you'll understand like 90% of it :O

same concept as esperanto but much easier to learn apparently
and if you read it it says it could be used as an abstract inter-language for when computers are used as sentence translators, which has a lot of potential too I think

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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
November 19 2008 02:47 GMT
#2
cool

whats basate though?
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sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
November 19 2008 02:47 GMT
#3
On November 19 2008 11:47 fusionsdf wrote:
cool

whats basate though?

i guessed it was "based on"
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
November 19 2008 02:49 GMT
#4
I can read some of it
but i've also taken spanish, it's not like i'm reading this wit honly a knowledge of english
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
November 19 2008 02:49 GMT
#5
whoa that's badass
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sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
November 19 2008 02:51 GMT
#6
On November 19 2008 11:49 KOFgokuon wrote:
I can read some of it
but i've also taken spanish, it's not like i'm reading this wit honly a knowledge of english

It says its supposed to be used by people who speak a romance language, which I'm pretty sure doesn't include english. Should we really be able to understand most of that?

I understood alot of the stuff based on me knowing some spanish.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24682 Posts
November 19 2008 02:52 GMT
#7
Yeah me too my spanish really is helping...
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
November 19 2008 02:57 GMT
#8
okay okay maybe I'm biased because of my languages but you should still understand a lot of it
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
November 19 2008 03:07 GMT
#9
Yeah I understand most of it, and Ive pretty much forgotten all the french I've ever known
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Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
November 19 2008 03:22 GMT
#10
erm couldn't understand most of it, just a few words here and there
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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
November 19 2008 03:24 GMT
#11
some reason it seems easier to read this if you know spanish o.o
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
November 19 2008 03:25 GMT
#12
wow that's amazing. I wonder if Europe will ever get a shared language. I found it very easy to read!
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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
November 19 2008 03:26 GMT
#13
I got most of it... But i guess it has to do with knowing spanish, somethings just dont make sense in english.
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x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-19 03:40:19
November 19 2008 03:40 GMT
#14
its kinda like spanish.......

some english-looking words dont mean the same in spanish.
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
November 19 2008 04:17 GMT
#15
Yeah spanish helps but its pretty cool
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
November 19 2008 04:21 GMT
#16
my knowledge of french was more helpful for reading this than my english
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
November 19 2008 04:23 GMT
#17
I can read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlingua
ionno what ai is suppose to mean but en for english
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 19 2008 04:52 GMT
#18
english is a romance language, but it's a lot farther removed than most european languages, such as italian, french, or spanish.
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inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
November 19 2008 04:58 GMT
#19
It reads so much like Spanish I can understand the whole thing (with just one word here and there that escapes me). I'm curious to see how everyone fares at this. If you just speak English, is it understandable?
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frankbg
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada335 Posts
November 19 2008 05:26 GMT
#20
I can read it but .... Wayyyy too much like spanish. Not gonna work, just like esperanto, its gonna fail hard =/
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
November 19 2008 05:28 GMT
#21
On November 19 2008 13:52 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
english is a romance language, but it's a lot farther removed than most european languages, such as italian, french, or spanish.


English is not a romance language
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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
November 19 2008 05:31 GMT
#22
hmm i have to agree with most people, I think the Spanish I know really helped a lot in reading this. Anyone who has no background of Romance languages and only English... can you read it?
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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
November 19 2008 05:33 GMT
#23
On November 19 2008 13:58 inlagdsil wrote:
It reads so much like Spanish I can understand the whole thing (with just one word here and there that escapes me). I'm curious to see how everyone fares at this. If you just speak English, is it understandable?
I barely got a sentence here and there. I can't speak Spanish, but since my dad's side of the family speaks it all the time I've picked up on some basic structures, honestly if it wasn't for that I probably wouldn't understand any of it.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
November 19 2008 05:48 GMT
#24
On November 19 2008 14:28 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
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On November 19 2008 13:52 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
english is a romance language, but it's a lot farther removed than most european languages, such as italian, french, or spanish.


English is not a romance language

It's much for fun then any other language also i find most asian languages shouldn't rap it's cheating when outright all your words end with vowels. All langs are romantic when said right by the right person also
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village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
November 19 2008 05:49 GMT
#25
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Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
November 19 2008 06:03 GMT
#26
On November 19 2008 14:49 village_idiot wrote:
CJ falls to a BO loss


I can't understand this
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-19 06:06:31
November 19 2008 06:03 GMT
#27
On November 19 2008 14:31 lilsusie wrote:
hmm i have to agree with most people, I think the Spanish I know really helped a lot in reading this. Anyone who has no background of Romance languages and only English... can you read it?

I'm only fluent in English (took some French when I was younger but remember almost nothing) and I can't understand very much. The first sentence is very clear, but I hardly understand any of the rest. I really think it's the close relation to Spanish that makes it so accessible for some people.

Edit: Wow, Korean, English and some Spanish? How many languages do you know??? :O

I'm also impressed with your commentating, it's really coming along. Keep up the good work.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-19 06:10:12
November 19 2008 06:05 GMT
#28
On November 19 2008 11:57 Xeofreestyler wrote:
okay okay maybe I'm biased because of my languages but you should still understand a lot of it

XFS, are you a french or flemish belge?

EDIT: and it was fairly comfortable to read.
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
November 19 2008 06:20 GMT
#29
Some words are understandable, but I cant follow it.
OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
November 19 2008 06:37 GMT
#30
My limited knowledge of French helped me get through it, though probably not as smoothly as those who know spanish.
Dagor
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany64 Posts
November 19 2008 06:46 GMT
#31
I can read it, but i speak french and learned latin in school. Especially latin can be quite usefull if you want to read italien. But spoken italien is just a mess for me, i can't understand a single word
Enrique
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States377 Posts
November 19 2008 06:58 GMT
#32
yeah, three years of Spanish makes that not a terribly difficult read. Also, English is absolutely not a romance language--it's Germanic in nature.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 19 2008 07:03 GMT
#33
On November 19 2008 14:28 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 13:52 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
english is a romance language, but it's a lot farther removed than most european languages, such as italian, french, or spanish.


English is not a romance language


Huh. I always though that it was, but you are correct. It is a germanic language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_languages

That being said, english borrows shamelessly from everywhere.
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Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
November 19 2008 07:23 GMT
#34
On November 19 2008 14:31 lilsusie wrote:
hmm i have to agree with most people, I think the Spanish I know really helped a lot in reading this. Anyone who has no background of Romance languages and only English... can you read it?

Only English doesn't help very much in reading it. You can get some of it, but definitely not 90%.
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
November 19 2008 07:24 GMT
#35
So my question for you guys is, did you read it in English or did you read it verbatim in Italian?

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read it in English, the parts of it I could understand at least
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
November 19 2008 07:28 GMT
#36
I get the gist of most of it. My only language apart from english is Indonesian so yeah... Invented languages fail 99% of the time.
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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
November 19 2008 07:29 GMT
#37
holy shit that's awesome
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
November 19 2008 07:47 GMT
#38
sounds like spanish to me.

i dont like it.
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distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
November 19 2008 08:33 GMT
#39
On November 19 2008 16:03 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 14:28 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
On November 19 2008 13:52 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
english is a romance language, but it's a lot farther removed than most european languages, such as italian, french, or spanish.


English is not a romance language


Huh. I always though that it was, but you are correct. It is a germanic language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_languages

That being said, english borrows shamelessly from everywhere.


the origin of the english vocabulary is like 50% from romance languages. English borrowed extensively after 1066 from french, before that a little from latin and much later again from latin.

English is a western germanic language (as are german and dutch).
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
November 19 2008 09:35 GMT
#40
Most people know Spanish, French or Latin, so it should be easy to at least understand the general message in Interlingua, if not every single word.
That's similar with any Romanic language though. I only speak Italian as a third language, and still I have no major problems reading French or Spanish (or Interlingua). Listening comprehension, active writing or speaking are another story of course.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
November 19 2008 10:22 GMT
#41
On November 19 2008 14:31 lilsusie wrote:
hmm i have to agree with most people, I think the Spanish I know really helped a lot in reading this. Anyone who has no background of Romance languages and only English... can you read it?


i could about 50-60 percent ot it.
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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
November 19 2008 10:38 GMT
#42
On November 19 2008 13:52 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
english is a romance language, but it's a lot farther removed than most european languages, such as italian, french, or spanish.


English = germanic language (With lots of romance influences, mainly from French)

Dunno in how far this will work though. I guess it's aim is to become an international language, but it's so much easier to learn for people with a germanic/romanic language background than people whose native language is from another family. Taking that into account how usefull will it be. Speakers for whom this is easy to pick up live, probably, in countries where English/Spanish is taught in schools etc anyway. Also it's always questionable if a artificial language like this can become a native language (the answers is probably yes but I wouldn;t risk fucking up my children to find out)
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
November 19 2008 12:52 GMT
#43
On November 19 2008 15:05 Daigomi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 11:57 Xeofreestyler wrote:
okay okay maybe I'm biased because of my languages but you should still understand a lot of it

XFS, are you a french or flemish belge?

EDIT: and it was fairly comfortable to read.


Flemish. But I've been learning french since I was little because I live near Brussels.
I also know german, polish and ofc. english (and a little bit of 한극말 !)


To those saying it would never work as an international language or w/e. Ofcourse it wouldnt. People are too damn proud about their stupid language. But read this:

Finalmente, un interlingua pote esser un linguage abstracte intermediari usate in le traduction per computator de linguas human.

the grammar of this language is so damn easy that translation devices everywhere could be set to translating to and from interlingua
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
November 19 2008 14:38 GMT
#44
I only speak english and I could barely understand the majority of that :O
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-19 14:43:50
November 19 2008 14:42 GMT
#45
no way!
how-ever, it creates a context that may be useful for understanding the text
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Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
November 19 2008 14:48 GMT
#46
I think it's a lot closer to Italian than Spanish. Romanian is very similar to Italian so I got most of what it's saying.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
November 19 2008 15:07 GMT
#47
I understood a very small amount of it. I only know english, chinese and a tiny bit of french.
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
November 19 2008 16:35 GMT
#48
I think it's pretty stupid. Keep refining current language translators instead of trying to make up some Frankenstein compromise. If someone used google to translate something from Spanish to English they'd understand more of it than trying to read this. It only helps if you already know a language that's similar.

Could you ever imagine speaking this? It would sound terrible.
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
November 19 2008 17:32 GMT
#49
this is cool, really reminds me of latin a bit sometimes
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 19 2008 19:40 GMT
#50
On November 19 2008 11:41 Xeofreestyler wrote:
I bet you can!
http://ia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlingua

your mind's gonna be like 'aw hell naw this is italian!' but just read the text and you'll understand like 90% of it :O

same concept as esperanto but much easier to learn apparently
and if you read it it says it could be used as an abstract inter-language for when computers are used as sentence translators, which has a lot of potential too I think


If i didnt have bases in latin, and french, this would be retarded to read.

fun none the less though
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
November 19 2008 20:03 GMT
#51
On November 20 2008 01:35 Durak wrote:
I think it's pretty stupid. Keep refining current language translators instead of trying to make up some Frankenstein compromise. If someone used google to translate something from Spanish to English they'd understand more of it than trying to read this. It only helps if you already know a language that's similar.

Could you ever imagine speaking this? It would sound terrible.


Perhaps you should actually read what I say
It'd go Spanish -> interlingua -> English and the same for any Language X to language Y
Not spanish -> interlingua and you figure out the rest. Did you miss the part where I said the grammar is really simple, thus making it easier on translation algoritms?

Understanding interlingua is another aspect of how handy this language is. Not the only aspect.
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
November 19 2008 20:13 GMT
#52
Why not use English as a metalanguage for translating purposes? English has quite simple grammar too, and is actually used by many people, so you could save one translation step in many cases. Quality will always decrease with each step. I'd much rather read Chinese>English than Chinese>Interlingua>English.
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
November 20 2008 00:05 GMT
#53
Interlingua is about 95% comprehensible to me, and is fun as a conlang, readable without any prior education, unlike say, esperanto. Unfortunately, I can't see much potential behind conlangs as living languages, simply because it lacks a fundamental cultural or historical basis. Test tube cultures will inevitably fail in the real world, regardless its theoretical merits.

I'd rather spend my time studying Latin than Interlingua, despite its greater difficulty
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
November 20 2008 00:16 GMT
#54
For speakers of Germanic languages, this website: http://www.tidingkonien.com/drupal/ is written in Folksprak, which is much lesser-known than Interlingua, but is based on the same principle:
God tidings! Ik ha nu min autostyrorkunde (licenc)!
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 20 2008 00:20 GMT
#55
I can sort of understand that, Moltke, and I only speak English and a bit of French :O
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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
November 20 2008 03:40 GMT
#56
Only a little bit.
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United States22895 Posts
November 26 2008 00:19 GMT
#57
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United States4146 Posts
November 26 2008 03:29 GMT
#58
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ish0wstopper
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)342 Posts
November 26 2008 19:13 GMT
#59
i feel everyone should read english
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GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
November 26 2008 21:09 GMT
#60
Its easy for me to read, but I'm fluent in Spanish
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