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Yaqoob
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Xeris
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I've really been looking for cool RPG's to play (not online), and I really like the forgotten realms "world" so to speak, so ya, I"m pumped O_O! | ||
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FunFluffyBunny
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Boblion
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On September 12 2008 06:42 FunFluffyBunny wrote: BG: Dark Alliance is a game for playstation It has nothing to do with real Baldur's Gate + it is crap :D On September 12 2008 04:23 Xeris wrote: I've really been looking for cool RPG's to play (not online), and I really like the forgotten realms "world" so to speak, so ya, I"m pumped O_O! Take BG1 + expansion + BG2 + expansion. This is my favourite game and the best rpg i have ever played  .Icewindale is ok but storyline is very bad compared to BG. It is almost an hack'n'slash a la diablo. | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
Start with BG1+TotSC, then move on to BG2+ToB. BG2 in particular is still one of the best games ever. BG1 is "worse" but still great, and it's the start of the whole story, so... And use EasyTutu or BGT for playing BG1, it'll make it much more pleasant to play. Playing through Baldur's Gate completely is something every gamer should do. After that, you can decide: Do you want another game like this, but with (much) more combat and less story/character interaction? Then go Icewind Dale 1+2. Or do you want another game like this, but with (much) more story and character depth? Then go Planescape: Torment. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On September 12 2008 07:02 0xDEADBEEF wrote: BG2 in particular is still one of the best games ever. BG1 is "worse" but still great, and it's the start of the whole story, so... Nub ! BG1 story and atmosphere is better ( imo ) + playing a level 1 wandering in unknown areas is just too awesome ( and being raped by kobolds :D ) But BG2 has better graphics, more interactions, spells and higher levels. Start with BG1 because its storyline is just too cool + u can use all the BG2 improvments with TuTu mod. | ||
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Mindcrime
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Xeris
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Pangolin
United States1035 Posts
I always play with the AI turned off and turn on a lot of auto-pause settings (see enemy, spell cast, etc.) because I like to personally control what my companions do. I never noticed that about raising dead but I always played on one of the lower difficulty settings. I guess your other questions were already answered. p.s. Kensai thief should not be dualled until bg2 similar to the kensai/mage | ||
Nyovne
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On September 12 2008 07:53 Nyovne wrote: Kensai mage is the only thing worth dualclassing imho (as main character) oO Kensai / thief Kensai / priest Assassin/ warrior Assassin / mage Assassin / priest Priest / mage Are good. | ||
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Mindcrime
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On September 12 2008 08:17 Boblion wrote: oO Kensai / thief Kensai / priest Assassin/ warrior Assassin / mage Assassin / priest Priest / mage Are good. 1. definitely 2. kensai cleric is noooo thx, but Kensai/druid and berserker/cleric are decent. 3. What's the point? 7x backstab? You don't get that until level 21 and if you wait for that, you're not going to have both classes active until late in the game. 4. Same as 3. 5. An assassin/cleric can do some interesting things if the dual is after uai, but again, you won't have both classes active until late in the game. 6. I can't think of a reason to dual instead of multi this. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On September 12 2008 08:52 Mindcrime wrote: 1. definitely 2. kensai cleric is noooo thx, but Kensai/druid and berserker/cleric are decent. 3. What's the point? 7x backstab? You don't get that until level 21 and if you wait for that, you're not going to have both classes active until late in the game. 4. Same as 3. 5. An assassin/cleric can do some interesting things if the dual is after uai, but again, you won't have both classes active until late in the game. 6. I can't think of a reason to dual instead of multi this. 2. I forgot that Priest can only use mace and hammers  . But i still think that priest buffs >>>> druid crap. Seriously why u want a Kensai / druid ? oO. Priest buffs are like the most imba thing in the game... I had a multi mage/priest for solo in BG1 and when buffed he could fight almost everything in the game in melee so i guess that a dual Kensai / priest would be complete ownage.3. It isnt the best char and it has his own weakness but it isnt that bad. About the level issue i think it is the same problem for every kind of dual classes. They are designed to pwn in BG2 or even ToB 4. same 5. same 6. For solo play if you just want some low level heal / buff spells. But you are right there arent that much differences. I just wanted to tell him that there are a few more useful combos . Kensai / mage is the most popular dual class but it isnt the only possible and efficient. | ||
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Mindcrime
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On September 12 2008 09:09 Boblion wrote: 2. I forgot that Priest can only use mace and hammers . But i still think that priest buffs >>>> druid crap. Seriously why u want a Kensai / druid ? oO. Priest buffs are like the most imba thing in the game... I had a multi mage/priest for solo in BG1 and when buffed he could fight almost everything in the game in melee so i guess that a dual Kensai / priest would be complete ownage.3. It isnt the best char and it has his own weakness but it isnt that bad. About the level issue i think it is the same problem for every kind of dual classes. They are designed to pwn in BG2 or even ToB 4. same 5. same 6. For solo play if you just want some low level heal / buff spells. But you are right there arent that much differences. I just wanted to tell him that there are a few more useful combos . Kensai / mage is the most popular dual class but it isnt the only possible and efficient.2. A kensai/druid has access to iron skins. The best a kensai/cleric can do is cast barkskin and defensive harmony, but both of those spells are known to druids as well. A Kensai/druid can also make use of belm. Given that clerics can cast righteous magic which totally outshines kai, I have to wonder why you would choose kensai over berserker? 3thac0/damage? I would much rather be able to wear armor and be immune to imprisonment thank you very much. 345. No, most dual-classes are worthwhile below 6million experience. 6. Multiclass cleric/mages actually get damn powerful. dual class? meh... If you dual at a low level, then you're effectively a gimped single class mage with a few pointless low level cleric spells. If you dual at a high level, you may as well have multi'd and not had to have gone through the inactive period. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On September 12 2008 09:38 Mindcrime wrote: 2. A kensai/druid has access to iron skins. The best a kensai/cleric can do is cast barkskin and defensive harmony, but both of those spells are known to druids as well. A Kensai/druid can also make use of belm. Given that clerics can cast righteous magic which totally outshines kai, I have to wonder why you would choose kensai over berserker? 3thac0/damage? I would much rather be able to wear armor and be immune to imprisonment thank you very much. Because priests have many more buffs, which is really important especially if you like solo play. Protection againt evil, some strenght boosts and so on. The iron skin part is cool but i prefer to have more strength and a better thaco. Attack > defense ( imo ). But i dont think we have to argue here, you prefer defensive chars and it is a matter of taste. This kind of character is designed to always hit his opponent except if he rolls a 1 + dealing a max of damage ( high strengh buff is needed ). + belm sucks somewhat if i remember :D. On September 12 2008 09:38 Mindcrime wrote: 345. No, most dual-classes are worthwhile below 6million experience. Most ? you are contradicting yourself Btw an assassin / priest is still worthwhile below 6million experience. It would be like .... an assassin ( you will have to buff him with another char ). On September 12 2008 09:38 Mindcrime wrote: 6. Multiclass cleric/mages actually get damn powerful. dual class? meh... If you dual at a low level, then you're effectively a gimped single class mage with a few pointless low level cleric spells. If you dual at a high level, you may as well have multi'd and not had to have gone through the inactive period. It is mostly for solo play, just to save you money and time when you want to heal + having some sucky invocs / buffs. A pure mage is better for a party and a multi mage / priest is also better as second caster and healer . | ||
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Mindcrime
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On September 12 2008 11:46 Boblion wrote: Because priests have many more buffs, which is really important especially if you like solo play. Protection againt evil, some strenght boosts and so on. The iron skin part is cool but i prefer to have more strength and a better thaco. Attack > defense ( imo ). But i dont think we have to argue here, you prefer defensive chars and it is a matter of taste. This kind of character is designed to always hit his opponent except if he rolls a 1 + dealing a max of damage ( high strengh buff is needed ). I don't prefer defensive characters. I prefer efficient characters. And that is why, as far as warrior-clerics go, I'll take a ranger/cleric multi over any form of fighter/cleric. + belm sucks somewhat if i remember :D. Belm is arguably the best offhand weapon in the game. Only two others really compare to it, and they both have distinct disadvantages. Most ? you are contradicting yourself Btw an assassin / priest is still worthwhile below 6million experience. It would be like .... an assassin ( you will have to buff him with another char ). Perhaps not most of the ones that you listed, but yes, most. It would be an assassin.... and then a gimpy cleric in late soa. It is mostly for solo play, just to save you money and time when you want to heal + having some sucky invocs / buffs. A pure mage is better for a party and a multi mage / priest is also better as second caster and healer .For soloing I will take a specialist mage (conjurer or wild mage preferably) or sorcerer over a weak cleric/mage dual any day. If your solo mage is getting hit and needs low level cleric spells to heal, you're doing something wrong. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On September 12 2008 12:31 Mindcrime wrote: I don't prefer defensive characters. I prefer efficient characters. 25 @ strenght = gg thx i hit everytime and i have a maximum of damage. You prefer to have iron skins. It is your choice. But dont say that a kensai / priest isnt an efficient character please. Btw why a ranger / priest would be better than a warrior / priest ? On September 12 2008 12:31 Mindcrime wrote: Belm is arguably the best offhand weapon in the game. Only two others really compare to it, and they both have distinct disadvantages. +2 weapons always sucked in my book ( i understand it is a good weapon for early / mid BG2 ) but if you prefer an extra attack it is ok. Nevertheless i really think that Belm is complete trash when your are playing ToB. On September 12 2008 09:38 Mindcrime wrote: Perhaps not most of the ones that you listed, but yes, most. List more so. Bard / ranger ? xD On September 12 2008 09:38 Mindcrime wrote: It would be an assassin.... and then a gimpy cleric in late soa. It would be an assassin with 25 @ strenght ( +14 damage, a really good thaco and a few more nice bonuses ) i think he would probably "one shot" On September 12 2008 09:38 Mindcrime wrote: For soloing I will take a specialist mage (conjurer or wild mage preferably) or sorcerer over a weak cleric/mage dual any day. If your solo mage is getting hit and needs low level cleric spells to heal, you're doing something wrong. Have you ever solo-ed a level 1 mage in BG1 ? I guess you like the save / load routine. It is the hardest char to solo in BG1 with bard-crap. A dual would make the beginning much more easier but i'm fair and i will agree with you a pure mage is definitly better on the long term. Moreover there is always a difficult moment ( when you will switch back to mage ) so i would prefer to take a multi priest / mage over any other kind of caster if i want to solo. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On September 12 2008 13:07 Boblion wrote: 25 @ strenght = gg thx i hit everytime and i have a maximum of damage. You prefer to have iron skins. It is your choice. But dont say that a kensai / priest isnt an efficient character please. I prefer to have both 25str, max damage and iron skins. Ranger/cleric ftw +2 weapons always sucked in my book ( i understand it is a good weapon for early / mid BG2 ) but if you prefer an extra attack it is ok. Nevertheless i really think that Belm is complete trash when your are playing ToB. You do realize where that extra attack goes, right? List more so. Bard / ranger ? xD :| swashbuckler/fighter swashbuckler/mage swashbuckler/cleric berserker/druid berserker/mage berserker/cleric wizard slayer/thief kensai/druid ranger/cleric stalker/cleric (soa, but not stock tob) archer/cleric (soa, but not stock tob) It would be an assassin with 25 @ strenght ( +14 damage, a really good thaco and a few more nice bonuses ) i think he would probably "one shot" almost everything in the game. Definitly a tricky character to play but fun. ...not without the use of potions or 6million exp. Have you ever solo-ed a level 1 mage in BG1 ? I guess you like the save / load routine. It is the hardest char to solo in BG1 with bard-crap. A dual would make the beginning much more easier but i'm fair and i will agree with you a pure mage is definitly better on the long term. Algernon's cloak ftw. EDIT: Ranger/clerics, due to a quirk in the Infinity Engine, get full access to both cleric spells and druid spells. | ||
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