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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 09 2008 18:55 GMT
#1


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BUGS

Not allowed to use:
- Flying drones and templars
- Terran sliding buildings
- A bug which allows your units to remain stacked while moving/attacking
- Allied mines
- Intentional dropping lurker and SCV – defined by referee
- Observer over turret
- Drone "Gas walk" to get through blocked entrances


o.O

I don't want to get a 1 week lock for drone drilling :-(

NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 19:03:01
September 09 2008 19:00 GMT
#2
Theres a difference between gas bug and drone drilling. Drone drilling can be used by clicking on a geyser or mineral patch and simply walking through everything. Gas bug can be used to float up a ramp without you having any vision of the upper ground, or to attack with as many stacked scvs as you want, and they will never unstack.

This has been talked about several times before.

EDIT: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=75219 here is a gas stacking replay.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
September 09 2008 19:02 GMT
#3
yeah so don't worry
And all is illuminated.
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
September 09 2008 19:21 GMT
#4
I always gas walked with drones. When was that made a rule?
Not bad for a cat toy.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 19:47:39
September 09 2008 19:39 GMT
#5
On September 10 2008 04:21 Krohm wrote:
I always gas walked with drones. When was that made a rule?


When go.go was a faggot and won a game due to that and even bragged about it later on? Back then, it was legit. It got banned after that.

edit: clarity
Complete the cycle!
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
September 09 2008 20:08 GMT
#6
its different, dont worry. drone drill your ass into anything until youre content. =D
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
September 09 2008 20:18 GMT
#7
what is "Intentional dropping lurker and SCV – defined by referee"?
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 09 2008 20:27 GMT
#8
Allied mines

why is that on there? The matches are one on one, i dont think you can allie at all..
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
September 09 2008 20:38 GMT
#9
I just wish I could play on ICCUP with a Mac.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
September 09 2008 20:53 GMT
#10
Here's a good rule: if you don't know how to do it, you probably won't end up doing it on accident
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 21:17:05
September 09 2008 21:15 GMT
#11
On September 10 2008 04:39 Naib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 04:21 Krohm wrote:
I always gas walked with drones. When was that made a rule?


When go.go was a faggot and won a game due to that and even bragged about it later on? Back then, it was legit. It got banned after that.

edit: clarity

Still a different bug, lol.

There are three ways to drill. The gas bug way (illegal), the cccc spam way (illegal), and the regular mineral/gas click way (legal). go.go was famous for using the second way when it was legal.

How horrible a person must be for using a legal bug D:

On September 10 2008 04:21 Krohm wrote:
I always gas walked with drones. When was that made a rule?


This particular type of stacking has been banned for about forever. I remember it being banned in PGT as well.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
September 09 2008 21:38 GMT
#12
On September 10 2008 05:27 arb wrote:
Allied mines

why is that on there? The matches are one on one, i dont think you can allie at all..


2v2
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9105 Posts
September 09 2008 21:46 GMT
#13
Drone drilling is fine. They are talking about filling the que by shift+clicking on gas to walk past a ramp I think.
overpool
Profile Joined April 2008
United States191 Posts
September 09 2008 22:33 GMT
#14
On September 10 2008 05:18 Luddite wrote:
what is "Intentional dropping lurker and SCV – defined by referee"?

Those refer to bugs that can cause Starcraft to crash/drop your opponent, like this. You can still "drop" any unit you want from a dropship, etc. in the game.
yay i love tl events
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
September 09 2008 22:35 GMT
#15
Ok thanks. I was really confused about that.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
September 09 2008 22:36 GMT
#16
On September 10 2008 05:18 Luddite wrote:
what is "Intentional dropping lurker and SCV – defined by referee"?


For scv it's using the build trick to drop it over a cliff to do something like take an expo easier on python say.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 09 2008 22:37 GMT
#17
On September 10 2008 05:08 Raithed wrote:
its different, dont worry. drone drill your ass into anything until youre content. =D



tehe oh how naughty raithed :-P
SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
China685 Posts
September 09 2008 23:44 GMT
#18
wait does this mean w can't stack mutas? O.o
What does the scouter say about his macro level? It's Over 9000 minerals!
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
September 10 2008 00:12 GMT
#19
On September 10 2008 08:44 SiegeTanksandBlueGoo wrote:
wait does this mean w can't stack mutas? O.o


yeah, gas stacking is the same as stacking mutas. don't do it anymore.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 00:31:46
September 10 2008 00:31 GMT
#20
On September 10 2008 08:44 SiegeTanksandBlueGoo wrote:
wait does this mean w can't stack mutas? O.o

omg ;;;


"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
September 10 2008 00:33 GMT
#21
On September 10 2008 09:12 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 08:44 SiegeTanksandBlueGoo wrote:
wait does this mean w can't stack mutas? O.o


yeah, gas stacking is the same as stacking mutas. don't do it anymore.

same with stacking good people on your team in 3v3 or 4v4, don't do it
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-10 00:37:41
September 10 2008 00:37 GMT
#22
On September 10 2008 09:33 Desolate.GreY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 09:12 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On September 10 2008 08:44 SiegeTanksandBlueGoo wrote:
wait does this mean w can't stack mutas? O.o


yeah, gas stacking is the same as stacking mutas. don't do it anymore.

same with stacking good people on your team in 3v3 or 4v4, don't do it


or just playing starcraft in general.

you'll get banned from iccup

and you'll bring dishonor to your family
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
September 10 2008 03:44 GMT
#23
How could drone drilling be banned when it is required for Plasma?
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
September 10 2008 03:48 GMT
#24
On September 10 2008 12:44 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
How could drone drilling be banned when it is required for Plasma?


this isn't drone drilling

this is gas stacking
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
September 10 2008 04:38 GMT
#25
guys, drone drilling and "gas walking" are two different things. op just intrepreted "gas walking" as drone drilling.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
September 10 2008 04:40 GMT
#26
Hasn't this been banned for a long long long time now? Someone used it against me 3-4 seasons ago and I reported them and made them lose 500 points or smth like that.
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 10 2008 04:45 GMT
#27
On September 10 2008 13:38 goldenkrnboi wrote:
guys, drone drilling and "gas walking" are two different things. op just intrepreted "gas walking" as drone drilling.



Yea, just total misinterpretation. Happy that it was just a misinterpretation though.
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
September 10 2008 08:05 GMT
#28
Gaswalk = u can go thrue block of zelots without seeing his mainminerals. Wont tell how, cause I dont want teach newbies how to cheat ^^
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
September 10 2008 11:55 GMT
#29
On September 10 2008 17:05 kroko wrote:
Gaswalk = u can go thrue block of zelots without seeing his mainminerals. Wont tell how, cause I dont want teach newbies how to cheat ^^

kinda hard not to tell when Mr.Google is around
dats racist
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
September 10 2008 19:42 GMT
#30
There was that game of Forgg vs Nal_rA when Forgg was DQ'd for using the bug
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 11 2008 00:15 GMT
#31
On September 11 2008 04:42 GeneralStan wrote:
There was that game of Forgg vs Nal_rA when Forgg was DQ'd for using the bug



Vod?
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
September 11 2008 00:41 GMT
#32
On September 10 2008 12:48 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 12:44 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
How could drone drilling be banned when it is required for Plasma?


this isn't drone drilling

this is gas stacking

This is madness.
This neo violence, pure self defiance
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
September 11 2008 02:34 GMT
#33
Madness?

THIS IS STARCRAFT!
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
September 11 2008 03:56 GMT
#34
On September 11 2008 09:15 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2008 04:42 GeneralStan wrote:
There was that game of Forgg vs Nal_rA when Forgg was DQ'd for using the bug



Vod?

search on tlpd
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 11 2008 05:02 GMT
#35
*crY**Me**a**rEaVer*
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 11 2008 05:03 GMT
#36
Oh, and there are 5 games of them...mind telling which one? :-(

Or must I watch them all -_-
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 11 2008 05:17 GMT
#37
On September 10 2008 04:21 Krohm wrote:
I always gas walked with drones. When was that made a rule?


like 3+ years ago?
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-11 05:37:07
September 11 2008 05:25 GMT
#38
On September 11 2008 14:03 EtherealDeath wrote:
Oh, and there are 5 games of them...mind telling which one? :-(

Or must I watch them all -_-


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/7847_fOrGG_vs_rA/vod

edit: ok apparently thats not it wtf
but it was definitely ra on zodiac...and tlpd says hes only played forgg and xellos on that map

gogo also did it vs ever)p(TT or whatever
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/2987_go.go_vs_TT


SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
September 11 2008 06:15 GMT
#39
It was their game on Loki: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/7851_fOrGG_vs_rA/vod
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
September 11 2008 06:29 GMT
#40
On September 10 2008 12:48 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 12:44 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
How could drone drilling be banned when it is required for Plasma?


this isn't drone drilling

this is gas stacking

I know, I was trying to make the point that drone drilling is obviously not banned when certain promaps require it (I hope I'm not an idiot and that drone drilling is indeed the same thing as what is done to get through the eggs with workers on Plasma) (I also don't think Plasma is in ICCup but it could be someday maybe).
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 11 2008 07:40 GMT
#41
wait where was the gas walk, when he went up the ramp initially? I thought that shiz was possible normally, like when Bisu did it.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
September 11 2008 12:23 GMT
#42
Why isn't unit stack/unstack to move through terrain not banned? (such as landing barracks on top of marines to get through terrain, or spidermines to get vultures through pylons or unburrow lurkers to get to the other side etc etc)

I find it disgusting when people do those. It's clearly exploiting a bug on the game. Why isn't it banned?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 11 2008 12:47 GMT
#43
On September 11 2008 16:40 EtherealDeath wrote:
wait where was the gas walk, when he went up the ramp initially? I thought that shiz was possible normally, like when Bisu did it.


its not possible normally if you dont have vision of the opponents minerals
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
September 11 2008 22:09 GMT
#44
On September 11 2008 14:25 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2008 14:03 EtherealDeath wrote:
Oh, and there are 5 games of them...mind telling which one? :-(

Or must I watch them all -_-


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/7847_fOrGG_vs_rA/vod

edit: ok apparently thats not it wtf
but it was definitely ra on zodiac...and tlpd says hes only played forgg and xellos on that map

gogo also did it vs ever)p(TT or whatever
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/2987_go.go_vs_TT




When GoGo did it, it was legal
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-12 04:35:27
September 12 2008 04:34 GMT
#45
On September 11 2008 14:03 EtherealDeath wrote:
Oh, and there are 5 games of them...mind telling which one? :-(

Or must I watch them all -_-

oh sry
it was on loki

On September 11 2008 21:23 VIB wrote:
Why isn't unit stack/unstack to move through terrain not banned? (such as landing barracks on top of marines to get through terrain, or spidermines to get vultures through pylons or unburrow lurkers to get to the other side etc etc)

I find it disgusting when people do those. It's clearly exploiting a bug on the game. Why isn't it banned?

Why should it be banned??
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 12 2008 04:38 GMT
#46
On September 12 2008 07:09 GeneralStan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2008 14:25 fusionsdf wrote:
On September 11 2008 14:03 EtherealDeath wrote:
Oh, and there are 5 games of them...mind telling which one? :-(

Or must I watch them all -_-


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/7847_fOrGG_vs_rA/vod

edit: ok apparently thats not it wtf
but it was definitely ra on zodiac...and tlpd says hes only played forgg and xellos on that map

gogo also did it vs ever)p(TT or whatever
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/2987_go.go_vs_TT




When GoGo did it, it was legal


it was only legal because they hadnt made it illegal yet

he will still always be the bug terran and the only player more disliked than fbh
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
September 12 2008 05:52 GMT
#47
tt was so pissed off after the game haha
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
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