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Heat_023
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada160 Posts
December 27 2013 15:59 GMT
#41
Regardless of the arguments, regardless of who's right, of what's right, it's pretty obvious that you miss something in that relationship, and that your desire to not be single anymore will make you talk yourself into letting her back with you. But don't imagine that it has to do with what's right or wrong.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 27 2013 16:01 GMT
#42
I'd be pissed at both, but I feel like I would have no right to be angry with her. It's her business. The friend though, he broke the bro code. If a friend of mine had sex with my ex whom I was with for 7 years, it would piss me off greatly and I probably wouldn't forgive him, or at least not easily. But that's just me.

So do whatever the fuck you want, it's your business.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Jaevlaterran
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden578 Posts
December 27 2013 16:15 GMT
#43
In my family we have an expression: "One chooses one's friends". Basically there are more fish in the sea and among those fish are:

friends who would never do these things

girls who would never do these things

Get some new ones and enjoy life without writing blogs like this one!
Need a light?
sikeTM
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States37 Posts
December 27 2013 16:57 GMT
#44
I may not be married but I'm engaged and we just found out not to long ago that my fiance is pregnant! Which is just amazing! But also makes me feel more qualified to talk about this. My first relationship lasted almost 2 years, we were in a similar situation in that, she cheated. All I can tell you is the part about her hating it, is bullshit. She maybr didnt love it, or him, but she did not hate what she was doing whatsoever. (Why do it?) Her tring to fill the void, is also bullshit. If your the void she could've tried to patch it up with you. I think she really didnt know what she wanted, shes young, dumb, and full of cum. Basically, she wanted something different. Now shes played the field and didnt like the cards she was dealth so suprise!!! You're the best she ever had in a relationship standpoint. She knows your a good guy and the best thing yet ...a safe choice! She wont get hurt(which someone probably did, maybe even your bestfriend) so she doesnt want that to happen again. My current relationship is the happiest I've ever been. We both had our relationships before and we are good people who dont want to hurt one another. This is key, she has already hurt you once, whats to stop her from doing it again. I say no one deserves another chance from the situation laid before me. You need to find someone whos on the same thinking-level as you. This girl still needs to bounce around, i dont think it will last this time. You have the power over her now and she wont like it. Because you can always say, "well you slept with him!" Theres not much she can say back to that. Which she'll figure out later because trust me, you will say it. If you're feeling insecure or untrusting you will, its the truth. But i dont think she deserves it. But you holding all the cards will get to her, she may not cheat but itll tear her up.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 17:06:02
December 27 2013 17:03 GMT
#45
the people who are telling you to not give the girl a 2nd chance are not realizing what kind of depression she may have gone through because of the initial breakup. they don't know what it is like from a girl's perspective...even more so being this is the girl's first relationship. I can definitely understand why she felt like she needed to fill a void and sought the comfort of another person. I am not saying she is an angel or very smart, it was pretty shitty to sleep with your ex's bf. however, that friend stepped in immediately after the breakup and could have easily took advantage of her emotional distress and used it for his selfish desires. No one knows exactly what happened, we should not be so quick to judge her...

talk with the girl, just listen to what she has to say. don't rush into getting back with her, but let her know that you care for her. Become friends again and take it day by day. give her another chance. But if you do, please do not throw what she did in her face and guilt trip her. Be a man about it.

c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
December 27 2013 17:23 GMT
#46
On December 28 2013 01:57 sikeTM wrote:
I may not be married but I'm engaged and we just found out not to long ago that my fiance is pregnant! Which is just amazing! But also makes me feel more qualified to talk about this. My first relationship lasted almost 2 years, we were in a similar situation in that, she cheated. All I can tell you is the part about her hating it, is bullshit. She maybr didnt love it, or him, but she did not hate what she was doing whatsoever. (Why do it?) Her tring to fill the void, is also bullshit. If your the void she could've tried to patch it up with you. I think she really didnt know what she wanted, shes young, dumb, and full of cum. Basically, she wanted something different. Now shes played the field and didnt like the cards she was dealth so suprise!!! You're the best she ever had in a relationship standpoint. She knows your a good guy and the best thing yet ...a safe choice! She wont get hurt(which someone probably did, maybe even your bestfriend) so she doesnt want that to happen again. My current relationship is the happiest I've ever been. We both had our relationships before and we are good people who dont want to hurt one another. This is key, she has already hurt you once, whats to stop her from doing it again. I say no one deserves another chance from the situation laid before me. You need to find someone whos on the same thinking-level as you. This girl still needs to bounce around, i dont think it will last this time. You have the power over her now and she wont like it. Because you can always say, "well you slept with him!" Theres not much she can say back to that. Which she'll figure out later because trust me, you will say it. If you're feeling insecure or untrusting you will, its the truth. But i dont think she deserves it. But you holding all the cards will get to her, she may not cheat but itll tear her up.

All very valid points...except this girl didn't cheat on OP.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12298 Posts
December 27 2013 17:27 GMT
#47
So now we are getting guarantees about how people felt based on experience in other relationships? That's interesting. I'm seriously surprised you're getting so many directions on this matter, when in the end the choice is completely yours and the only wrong thing you could do is get yourself in a spot you don't want because of exterior pressure.

There's also a romanticizing of forgiveness that's going on here. You don't really choose to forgive people, you just do or you don't. You can tell yourself that you have, or that you should or shouldn't, but in the end, if you're still angry at her, you'll just feel it (and you probably already know it).
No will to live, no wish to die
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
December 27 2013 17:33 GMT
#48
Honestly, I think you should forgive her, but don't think too much about getting back together. Like someone said earlier, there are reasons you two broke up, eve after a 5 year relationship. Keep those in mind. It likely won't be any easier now with new things troubling you. However, this doesn't mean you two can't be friends. I think we can sympathize with the girl's actions, so don't let that detract from your friendship. The dating thing, though, probably won't work out. Oh, and fuck your ex-friend. Tell him to go to hell.
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L1ghtning
Profile Joined July 2013
Sweden353 Posts
December 27 2013 17:35 GMT
#49
On December 27 2013 17:55 Xanbatou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 17:52 Torte de Lini wrote:
Is this something that I should forgive her for?


no

yes, she is equally at fault because she is aware that you guys are friends. It's a pretty big social travesty to pull that shit.

She told me that she was just really depressed and broken and lonely.


As now she's back where she was before. Surprise, surprise.



I realize that it is generally a social travesty. Very, very few people are okay with it. But considering the situation, is it more excusable? I mean, I feel like anyone trying to get over the end of a 5 year relationship will be making a lot of really poor choices. Like I said, I'm usually the most loyal of people, but even I don't know if I could refuse an ex's best friend if I thought that they would give me a temporary and/or even partial relief from the misery I was experiencing.

Why are you asking others if what she did was ok? Only you know the answer to that question. Either way, it doesn't matter if what she did was "excusable" or not. What matters is whether you want her back and if you can trust her or not, and that's the things that you have to figure out. Letting her go, simply because "you're supposed to" is just stupid, and the same goes for "letting her back in", against your better judgment. You just have to figure out where your feelings are at, and where she's at, and pick the option that works for you. Noone expects you to be able to figure this out right now. Give it some time, and talk to her about everything. Personally, if I was in your shoes, I wouldn't forgive her, even if we got back together, but I would be willing to forgive her eventually. Forgiveness takes time, and it's something that you have to earn.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
December 27 2013 17:38 GMT
#50
yeah, let's try reverse friendzoning. Because that will be oh so much fun for her!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 27 2013 17:59 GMT
#51
You don't love her or you wouldn' task yourself the question to be with her again.

So basically what is left is this : do you have enough sex in your life without her ? If yes, don't bother, if no, go with her.
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 18:40:16
December 27 2013 18:39 GMT
#52
She sounds like a piece of work. I'd say just fuck her as much as possible but don't get involved with her seriously. IE; break it off the moment you begin feeling anything at all for her.
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Xanbatou
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States805 Posts
December 27 2013 18:47 GMT
#53
I obviously love her, guys. You can interpret it that I don't love her otherwise I would be asking, or you can interpret it as I do love her and I'm wondering if it's just better for myself if I stay away.

Obviously, you guys are all removed from the situation and I understand that, but I still like hearing the opinion of others. I strongly believe that pretty much everyone you know knows something that you do not, so sometimes it's just nice hearing what someone else has to say.

To answer the question of "Why do it?" if she hated it, that's also fairly easy to answer. I hooked up with someone else at about the same time, although it was not her friend. I was not a big fan of the sex either, but I kept doing it. Why did I keep doing it? Because I thought it would be different if I kept trying, maybe. I thought if I kept having sex I would eventually feel like the sex was meaningful, and intimate and I would feel the same connection that I did with her. I ended up cutting it off shortly after as well. Obviously, it was stupid to think that and I realize that now.

She has never been one to lie to me in our relationship. She never did it once. The fact that she is coming to me feeling this way and saying the things she is saying is somewhat telling for me. However, the main issue that caused us to breakup before was her not being able to understand and communicate her emotions effectively before doing something stupid and careless. That's a large reason that I'm very skeptical. She is an emotional being and sometimes she lets those emotions have too much control over her, and I worry that the things she is saying to try to get me back is another manifestation of that.

Sorry, I am kind of rambling..
vhapter
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil677 Posts
December 27 2013 19:36 GMT
#54
^ It wouldn't be a good idea to get back together and not change what wasn't ok in the first place. So if you do decide to stay together, I'd make not going through certain issues like that again a priority.
To live is to fight, to fight is to live!
Xanbatou
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States805 Posts
December 27 2013 19:39 GMT
#55
On December 28 2013 04:36 vhapter wrote:
^ It wouldn't be a good idea to get back together and not change what wasn't ok in the first place. So if you do decide to stay together, I'd make not going through certain issues like that again a priority.


Oh yes, that goes without saying. If she can't demonstrate that the thing that caused us a problem before won't still be a problem, I cannot take her back.

docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
December 27 2013 19:47 GMT
#56
1. You should immidiately drop this friend entirely.
2. You should think about what the relationship meant to you, how good she actually was to you, etc.
3. You should think about whether or not the relationship was equal and if you were to restart if it would be equal.
4. You should think about whether or not you would enjoy being with her or you would rather move on.
5. If you decide not to get back with her you chew her out hard core and make her feel awful about herself. If you decide to get back with her you should console her because she probably feels like shit.
The reason for 5 is for catharsis. It sounds horrible, but if you end it off by not wanting that person, the move on is faster, if you get back together the love grows faster. It's awful, but it's effective.
Also, remember, none of this has to do with her making choices, this is all you.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 19:56:30
December 27 2013 19:55 GMT
#57
I think you should say yes. Everybody is going to end up breaking your trust in due time, the question you should be asking is: 'Can you forgive that person for breaking your trust?'. Since it seems like you can, go for it. I mean, you still like her.

Edit: oh, I'll get rid of that friend if I were you.
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
Xanbatou
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States805 Posts
December 27 2013 19:58 GMT
#58
On December 28 2013 04:55 Steins;Gate wrote:
I think you should say yes. Everybody is going to end up breaking your trust in due time, the question you should be asking is: 'Can you forgive that person for breaking your trust?'. Since it seems like you can, go for it. I mean, you still like her.

Edit: oh, I'll get rid of that friend if I were you.


It's interesting. I should give her another chance but I should get rid of my friend?

Out of curiosity, why the double standard? I mean, I agree, but why?
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
December 27 2013 19:58 GMT
#59
On December 28 2013 03:47 Xanbatou wrote:
I obviously love her, guys. You can interpret it that I don't love her otherwise I would be asking, or you can interpret it as I do love her and I'm wondering if it's just better for myself if I stay away.

Obviously, you guys are all removed from the situation and I understand that, but I still like hearing the opinion of others. I strongly believe that pretty much everyone you know knows something that you do not, so sometimes it's just nice hearing what someone else has to say.

To answer the question of "Why do it?" if she hated it, that's also fairly easy to answer. I hooked up with someone else at about the same time, although it was not her friend. I was not a big fan of the sex either, but I kept doing it. Why did I keep doing it? Because I thought it would be different if I kept trying, maybe. I thought if I kept having sex I would eventually feel like the sex was meaningful, and intimate and I would feel the same connection that I did with her. I ended up cutting it off shortly after as well. Obviously, it was stupid to think that and I realize that now.

She has never been one to lie to me in our relationship. She never did it once. The fact that she is coming to me feeling this way and saying the things she is saying is somewhat telling for me. However, the main issue that caused us to breakup before was her not being able to understand and communicate her emotions effectively before doing something stupid and careless. That's a large reason that I'm very skeptical. She is an emotional being and sometimes she lets those emotions have too much control over her, and I worry that the things she is saying to try to get me back is another manifestation of that.

Sorry, I am kind of rambling..


Sounds like our OP already made up his mind. Good luck on your second try.
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
December 27 2013 19:59 GMT
#60
Your friend wasn't going through an emotional turmoil.
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
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