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last night i felt a bit better suddenly (weekly occurance of me becoming increasingly stressed and incapable, before resetting again)
i read reddit's nofap experiment and understood the motivator that is "sexual energy" for the first time and what it means to be able to channel sexual energy into achievements
now after waking today am im applying the following policy to my life , without any deviation:
literally NO.....
no internet/tlnet forum/sc/entertainment/threads reading
no facebook click
no porn/browsing
no watching stuff/tv/youtube/iplayer/torrent
no games obv
basically no entertainment on computer except music. everything ceases to exist
no smoking
the only things i can do:
guitar / youtube for guitar
gym
eat
work course thing
meditate/lie/sleep
stretch
take nutrition pills
do laundry
shower
practice smiling
study x
the real main challenge here is 0% internet timewasting and 0% fap timewasting. this huge amount of time will first probably be replaced mainly with meditation/lying on bed doing nothing until i can adjust. idk.
either way, this starts now, without me glancing at forums or at facebook or loading up any porn.
why am i doing this:
need to gain discipline and experiment to see if my massive lack of energy and huge amount of disabling stress are effected . needs to be zero tolerance measure coz i am simply unable to "cut down" wasted time. needs to be a constant and self reassuring program with no opportunity or gaps for failure
 
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No fap? No youtube? I
I wish you the best of luck but theres only so long that you can practice smiling
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i'll be blunt: sounds stupid. maybe could you post the reddit link, so it becomes possible to argue about the reasons behind this?
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blogging is allowed? :D
this looks interesting
keep us updated
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The thing is, all this will be 100% wasted time. Unless you keep with it for 3 weeks and more. Because that is the time ti takes to develop new habits and keep them.
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you could apply zero tollerance and discipline to cuttong down stuff aswell. I dont know how old you are, but in my experience, the focus you strive for is something that comes to people with time, usually after experiencing a situation where you activelly decided to change your life because you wanted to. If you are ready for this it will work, but if you fail - know that this will come by itself when the time is right.
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Dude start up a new hobby during this time. You are going to have so much free time.
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I feel sorry for you.....I really do...
On April 27 2012 21:58 Prof. Protoss wrote:
blogging is allowed? :D
this looks interesting
keep us updated
And I don't think he will be able to keep us updated considering the fact he is not using the internet anymore
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How you Diablo 3 if no gaming? O,O Lying in bed too much is not good for your health I think.
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your just replacing your time wasting with a diffrent type of time wasting seems just more boring to me.
Plus practice smiling. really?
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the only things i can do:
gym
gym
gym
gym
gym
You forgot these.
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You know back in the days, you went out with those people called "friends"  .
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On April 27 2012 22:59 gaymon wrote:You know back in the days, you went out with those people called "friends" .
I remember those times. 
@OP: gl with your project
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See you tomorrow.
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Inspirational! Ill try doing something similar.
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GL with not getting random and/or uncontrolable boners from beauiful women throughout the day in public. 
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My fear would be that "meditate/lie/sleep" starts taking up a massive amount of time.
Days are long and whenever I consider being immensely productive before I'm immensely passionate about a project, it's not usually a good thing. You would be better off prioritizing things you need to get done and doing them before the less useful things, while still giving yourself some time to relax at the end of the day. You will find that once you feel you have accomplished some things for the day, you are better able to enjoy the relaxing things (where for many people they can be difficult to do if they don't feel they've done anything all day).
You are kinda trying to imagine what your ideal/perfect state is, but I think you should reevaluate it. It just seems to be a reflection of what you think society/girls want you to be, I don't see any creativity or personal goals in it.
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Honestly, I'd say take it one thing at a time. You're cutting all entertainment out of your life pretty suddenly, and that's going to leave a massive gap. If you put any serious amount of time into those distractions, it's going to be REALLY REALLY hard to fill in the void when it hits you all at once.
I'm like...70% sure you'll relapse on something within a week, and when you do come back to TL, take my advice and start cutting out one thing at time, maybe 1 source of distraction each month or two so you can find the best way to use your time without that distraction.
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You should masturbate / have sex at least every few days.
It's good for you.
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Only way you'll be able to do this is if you get rid of your computer.
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On April 28 2012 00:35 tomatriedes wrote:
Only way you'll be able to do this is if you get rid of your computer.
and get rid of the your smartphone, since u still can watch pr0ns there :DD
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frequent breaks improve my productivity so although im not clocking as many hours i am more focused and relaxed.
Also, enjoy life wtf? lol
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I have wet dreams when I don't fap for too long. Also you'll want to balance fapping with waking up every morning thinking about girls.
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might have some issues with ego depletion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_depletion) and rebound effects due to suppression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_suppression).
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Dude. This isn't right. You're just going to procrastinate sleeping in bed.
See you tonight.
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I'd start with just the no fap part. I found it works wonders for my mood and productivity. Wonders.
People react differently to these exercises, depending on their hormonal balance and previous habits. If you try all the NOs at once and feel good, how would you know you wouldn't have felt just as good with only one of the NOs? Try them one at a time, each for a couple of weeks and see how it goes. It's possible going for no fap would lead to other behavioural changes that you didn't intend but that you would welcome.
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If this is what you set your mind to, I support you in your efforts. You can do it
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No smoking is going to be the hardest out of all these. I know when I have two hours with nothing to do, smoking is going to fill them up.
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I think that instead of trying to completely cut out these forms of entertainment from your life, you should draw a very clear line between entertainment and work. For instance, I don't have a phone. At all. I never really needed it, and when I am out and about in the day, I am experiencing reality; it's actually quite amusing to me, because I would definitely be considered "geeky" and a "technofreak," but in reality, I spend way less time with technology than most people because of the simple fact I don't own a MP3 player or phone.
I guess I am saying get rid of your phone, and if you must use one, get a good ol' brick. No stupid fucking iPhones.
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On April 27 2012 22:03 storkfan wrote:
The thing is, all this will be 100% wasted time. Unless you keep with it for 3 weeks and more. Because that is the time ti takes to develop new habits and keep them.
All the activities he's attempting to eliminate are also wasted time.
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So basically, no activities that you enjoy and find relaxing? Sounds like your eliminating what gives you joy in life for some artificial sense of achievement.
Enjoy existing, I suppose. Without the little egocentric time wasters, I feel life's not life at all, but postponed death.
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On April 28 2012 02:39 EchOne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 22:03 storkfan wrote:
The thing is, all this will be 100% wasted time. Unless you keep with it for 3 weeks and more. Because that is the time ti takes to develop new habits and keep them. All the activities he's attempting to eliminate are also wasted time.
One could argue that the things he is allowing himself to do are wasted time as well.
If one enjoys faps and games, its not a waste. Entertainment is necessary to stay happy. You can't turn yourself into a productivity machine.
On April 28 2012 02:49 plated.rawr wrote:
So basically, no activities that you enjoy and find relaxing? Sounds like your eliminating what gives you joy in life for some artificial sense of achievement.
Enjoy existing, I suppose. Without the little egocentric time wasters, I feel life's not life at all, but postponed death.
QFT
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This seems fine if you want to live your life only to satisfy others. If that's not your goal, fuck man, just do things you enjoy. Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.
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I have done this before but not quite to that extent. I didn't know how it would turn out at first, but after I started doing things I'd been putting off, I felt WAY better about myself. Let's face it: Internet, video games and TV are HUGE time wasters. When I cut those things out, suddenly I had TONS of time to do all sorts of shit. Suddenly I was going to bed at a reasonable hour, reading books/learning, practicing music, getting repairs done on my car/house, working out, meditating, doing more outdoor activities, my wife was happier because I was paying attention to her more, etc.
What I would change about your plan is "the only things i can do" section. Don't limit it to that. Just cut out Internet (except email/google), TV, and video games, you will get a huge amount of free time you didn't know you had. Highly recommended!
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I was planning something similar at the beginning of May. I doing the whole No fap thing and No smoking or drinking. Im not gonna put to much on my plate right now I'm just gonna stop the things that I think are negatively affecting me the most. Gonna shave my head on the weekend, start working out again, eatting better. I did that last summer and I felt great. I'v already started to put more of my time into starcraft to keep me distracted from the things that keep me distracted. I'v also been marking down how many games a day I play and my W/L ratio for all three races. In terms of self discipline I'm thinking I need to work on my sleep schedule, bring up dishes when I'm done with them so they dont pile up, make my bed, keep my room neat. Also Im gonna limit my internet browsing down It's easy for me to be distracted by just browsing sites with out realizing how much time I just lost.
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I think he enjoys those things but he's unhappy when he looks back on his day and all he's done is browse the internet etc. Don't want to speak for him but everyone is saying don't give up things that he finds joy or relaxation out of but I think he's aware of this. He's eliminating things to create a catalyst for change. Fulfillment comes from many places, OP is trying to see if he's missing out on other types of fulfillment because his current activities may more convenient or addictive and those aren't the best reasons to continue.
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I tried something like this, and only lasted 10 days (no masturbation).. I did notice a slight increase in attention from women (this could be totally placebo though) and I wasn't as tired as often and full of energy.
So I can understand what you're trying. Someone said earlier in the thread about how a change like this will come at the time it's supposed to, if it doesn't work out. I kinda believe in this, so even if you fail don't worry about it too much. Forcing a change is very hard at times
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On April 28 2012 02:49 plated.rawr wrote:
So basically, no activities that you enjoy and find relaxing? Sounds like your eliminating what gives you joy in life for some artificial sense of achievement.
Enjoy existing, I suppose. Without the little egocentric time wasters, I feel life's not life at all, but postponed death.
Well, not all the things in his second list are that bad on his own... Like guitar can be relaxing. But when you put it next to the other things in his list, it is pretty obvious he is not playing for the right reasons lol.
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As much as I admire you for such a commitment... this sounds impossible imo lol.
I mean if it was just about mindless browsing and whatknot it would be doable if you just distracted yourself with something else, like a pornhub marathon or smth
...but this? Sorry, but I don't have a lot of faith in this.
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giving up everything you enjoy cold turkey will drive you insane. take it slow. just take a day or two off at a time and then indulge for a bit. it will be much easier to transition to a better lifestyle that way. if you try and go all out right away you are much more likely to break and give up from the frustration. life isn't that short, you don't need to be in such a hurry.
that's why humans invented the work week. don't spend your work/school days goofing off and hold off until the weekend or the very very end of your day. you can do everything on your second list in a single week, multiple times a week even, and still have SO MUCH TIME to do stuff on your first list.
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On April 27 2012 21:27 FFGenerations wrote:
the only things i can do:
guitar / youtube for guitar
gym
eat
work course thing
meditate/lie/sleep
stretch
take nutrition pills
do laundry
shower
practice smiling
study x
I think it's important to realize that you're not a robot and shouldn't be too hard on yourself if you can't give 100% output on what you're working towards. Even the workaholic associate dean at my school (who works in excess of 90 hours a week because she honestly enjoys it) advocates setting time apart to allow your mind to do nothing.
I did something similar to this over a year ago when my grad school classes turned brutal. I didn't allow myself to have a stress outlet (other than finishing the work) and wound up burning myself out after about three months. For the following two months I had a complete collapse of productivity, completed minimal lab work (only doing mindless tests), and spent virtually all my free time watching anime on netflix. It took a while to get back on track.
While it is intelligent to bring balance to your life by wasting less time on the internet, don't make the mistake of giving yourself no breaks.
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You are going to hardcore fail in a few weeks if you're trying to change ALL of your habits at once. Behavior change takes time; pick one habit per month (it takes something like 30 days for a new habit to stick) and slowly knock them out over the next year.
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Have fun taking everything you enjoy out of life.
Really..have fun...because that sounds like the most miserable way to live ever.
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Best of luck I hope you don't even need it =D
Don't forget guys he intends to spend a large portion of time simply meditating. That and taking a nap is about a good of a break as you can possibly get.
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He's still leaving in bullshit like guitar (unless that's his major). The problem with trying to quit cold turkey like this is in my experience it just doesn't work. Just not fapping is difficult because after a few weeks (personal self control test in high school) you just start having series of wet dreams.
Not using the internet is another thing. He'll still have to check his emails. If he finds a way to break the addiction habit, withdrawl symptoms are going to start kicking in. He'll try to sleep in bed rather than work on his courses.
And then he tacks on no smoking. What do you think he's going to want to do as soon as he gets stressed out by all the things he's put off and the feelings of failure every time he tries something and it doesn't work? Or when his withdrawl symptoms start kicking in?
This is setting yourself up for failure. It's not smart. If you want to improve your life you need a better plan.
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On April 28 2012 05:27 obesechicken13 wrote:
He's still leaving in bullshit like guitar (unless that's his major). The problem with trying to quit cold turkey like this is in my experience it just doesn't work. Just not fapping is difficult because after a few weeks (personal self control test in high school) you just start having series of wet dreams.
I quit for lent a year ago and experienced nothing even close to this (went 50 days). Besides one unfortunate case of blue balls there really weren't any physical side effects besides becoming overwhelmingly horny on a number of occasions. Maybe it's different for different people (or if you're closer to puberty) or if there really is a psychological dependence.
Quitting cold turkey is possible; it's all a matter of discipline. Chances are one would crack under the pressure because the current amount of discipline they display is not great. It's like trying to run a marathon when the only training you've done is walking around the block once. While I support OP trying to do this, I still urge him to keep my last post in mind and have multiple stress outlets while looking for a balanced lifestyle.
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On April 27 2012 21:57 MisterD wrote:
i'll be blunt: sounds stupid. maybe could you post the reddit link, so it becomes possible to argue about the reasons behind this?
how does being productive sound stupid? He's striving to become healthier and actually being productive. You'll learn what your priorities are when you grow up one day
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You won't be able to sleep after a week. All you'll think about is 'Girl .. nude girl .. me and nude girl'
Or just boobs
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On April 28 2012 05:27 obesechicken13 wrote:
He's still leaving in bullshit like guitar (unless that's his major). The problem with trying to quit cold turkey like this is in my experience it just doesn't work. Just not fapping is difficult because after a few weeks (personal self control test in high school) you just start having series of wet dreams.
Not using the internet is another thing. He'll still have to check his emails. If he finds a way to break the addiction habit, withdrawl symptoms are going to start kicking in. He'll try to sleep in bed rather than work on his courses.
And then he tacks on no smoking. What do you think he's going to want to do as soon as he gets stressed out by all the things he's put off and the feelings of failure every time he tries something and it doesn't work? Or when his withdrawl symptoms start kicking in?
This is setting yourself up for failure. It's not smart. If you want to improve your life you need a better plan.
Learning a skill like playing the guitar is bullshit? How so? It's more productive than playing video games.
If he gets regular important emails, I think that's fine. It's not like he's mindlessly browsing reddit or porn.
Um, I can vouch for smoking cigarettes cold turkey. It was simple. I believe human beings are just generally weak, but if one has a strong mindset, one does not need assistance from bullshit.
Newsflash, internet has not always existed from the dawn of man and people actually lived without it and *gasp* were generally happy without it, probably for the better. Men were actually strong and social and didn't need to read tips on how to pickup women from keyboard jockeys.
He might be setting up for failure if he doesn't have a plan, but at least he has resolutions. What are yours again, everybody? Just a bunch of negative posts for this poor, aspiring guy. I really don't find it surprising as this is a site for gaming and most of you live inside your bro caves. Not exactly the site for outdoor living.
With all that, good luck to you bro. Glad you're trying to better yourself. Hope you succeed.
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On April 28 2012 05:59 matiK23 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 05:27 obesechicken13 wrote:
He's still leaving in bullshit like guitar (unless that's his major). The problem with trying to quit cold turkey like this is in my experience it just doesn't work. Just not fapping is difficult because after a few weeks (personal self control test in high school) you just start having series of wet dreams.
Not using the internet is another thing. He'll still have to check his emails. If he finds a way to break the addiction habit, withdrawl symptoms are going to start kicking in. He'll try to sleep in bed rather than work on his courses.
And then he tacks on no smoking. What do you think he's going to want to do as soon as he gets stressed out by all the things he's put off and the feelings of failure every time he tries something and it doesn't work? Or when his withdrawl symptoms start kicking in?
This is setting yourself up for failure. It's not smart. If you want to improve your life you need a better plan. Learning a skill like playing the guitar is bullshit? How so? It's more productive than playing video games. If he gets regular important emails, I think that's fine. It's not like he's mindlessly browsing reddit or porn. Um, I can vouch for smoking cigarettes cold turkey. It was simple. I believe human beings are just generally weak, but if one has a strong mindset, one does not need assistance from bullshit. Newsflash, internet has not always existed and people actually lived without it and *gasp* were generally happy without it, probably for the better. Men were actually strong and social and didn't read tips on how to pickup women from keyboard jockeys. He might be setting up for failure if he doesn't have a plan, but at least he has resolutions. What are yours again, everybody? Just a bunch of negative posts for this poor, aspiring guy. I really don't find it surprising as this is a site for gaming and most of you live inside your bro caves. Not exactly the site for outdoor living. With all that, good luck to you bro. Glad you're trying to better yourself. Hope you succeed.
How is guitar more productive? Unless you think you might one day become a guitar teacher for a period of time it's just doing something for pleasure, same as a video game. I've never smoked cigarettes before(tried weed once, and had relatives that smoked) so I shouldn't comment on that. My bad.
I don't know how the rest of what you said about internet jockeys has relevance to any of my posts so I'll assume it was for someone else.
This is a site for gamers. No shit. Do you realize how hypocritical you sound though calling us dicks? When you say we live in caves?
Are you seriously accusing me of not having resolutions? Do you know anything about me?
No one on this site was mean. We all want what's best for the OP but some of us think he's taking too much of what gives him intrinsic pleasure away from his life. I don't care if he wants to remove wasteful habits from his life, I just don't think his plan will work. I can lie and say I think it will. I won't.
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On April 28 2012 05:55 Erasme wrote:
You won't be able to sleep after a week. All you'll think about is 'Girl .. nude girl .. me and nude girl'
Or just boobs
agree with this guy
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I don't think he posted the blog to hear about how he will fail, but that's just me. You can express yourself that's fine I just don't see the point here. If he fails he'll find out himself without everyone telling to quit before he's even tried.
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Good luck man, you have ALOT more self control than me. I have thought of doing this a few times, but then I remembered how much I love my computer and don't. I do go mountain climbing alot so I guess that's my thing, hiking and climbing for 13 hours straight keep you from fapping ;P
Here is a little help for you
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Best of luck. I don't think I could keep myself off the net x.x
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No fap? Charging up the spirit bomb eh? :p
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i'd like to accomplish something similar to what you're doing. best of luck to you, though doing i do recommend taking baby steps instead of trying to stop everything at once
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hi, thanks so much for the encouragement, those of you who did so. i did leave the thread open and refresh it
it is end of day 3 now
smoking - i have not smoked or thought about it. VERY tight mental lockdown on it.
wanking - i have masturbated but not let myself orgasm
food - i have been strict paleo/unprocessed plus bread. not touched anything except veg, fruit, chicken and tortilla , and rice , plus a few "healthy" sandwiches at work. and like salsa sauce/ketchup . well thats my version of strict paleo
time allocation - i have spent almost all my time in bed (like 13 hours straight) or at work. this will gradually change as i figure it out and get more energy
entertainment - no web browsing, only watched something whilst eating. its AMAZING how many times you find yourself about to click up on tlnet or facebook. you catch yourself do it then just dont look at the sidebar/threads and close it before you spend any time there.
sleep - easy to bedtime at 10pm when you are not "into anything" like reading or watching stuff. with those addictions free from your background mind, you dont have anything dragging you back. tonight SUCKS because my back hurts SO FUCKING MUCH (doctors on wednesday) i spent 2 hours after work trying to track down some painkillers so its 22:20 already now ffs
to those who were wondering/talking shit, the reason you have to do "everything at once" is because everything is so closely tied to everything else. wanking is tied to browsing net is tied to watching stuff is tied to eating junk food is tied to smoking is tied to staying up too late is all tied to lack of time management and lack of energy etc. you cant simply cut one thing out and hope you keep up the resolve for that one thing when your mind is 90% focused on doing shitty things already. instead, if you are 100% focused on doing proper things and 0% focused on shitty things, then it is a LOT easier to maintain that 0% when all your activities are similarly focused, and when you DO slip up with one thing then you have only slipped up by 10% instead of 100% . the only problem with this philosophy is that the mental state you have to be in in order to initiate this in the first place is quite rare. but if your mental state is strong enough to decide to quit smoking then its a great time to try to attempt to perfect everything else
next 3 days aim - keep stress low and resolve high (fucking hard when my back is hurting like this. and i need to gym tomorrow), start to reallocate time, keep mental lockout on the smoking (dont ask me how i do it), REMEMBER that i am not doing this for the sake of the things that i am doing but for the sake of the things that i will be able to do/achieve
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On April 30 2012 06:27 FFGenerations wrote:
wanking - i have masturbated but not let myself orgasm
I strongly suggest that you terminate this practice if you do not wish to become an eunuch.
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Aright do what you want. I had a friend this semester who cut back on bad foods and exercised a lot. His computer's network card didn't work at school so he had no internet at school. He seems happier about his body. And if this works for you I can try it myself.
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So brave. I feel like doing this someday, but it's scary.
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Seems efficient... but... I don't know. I think life is not only so much about achievement but also about just plain enjoying life and having fun and being happy.
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Hope you're sticking with it!
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Ima need help on this nofap thing
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On April 30 2012 06:55 phosphorylation wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 06:27 FFGenerations wrote:
wanking - i have masturbated but not let myself orgasm
I strongly suggest that you terminate this practice if you do not wish to become an eunuch.
What? I don't see that making him a eunuch lol.
On that note, this is definitely not something I would ever do, but goodluck on that OP. I would be bored mindlessly and hate it if I only did what you wanted to do, but that's more power to you!
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only thing i can do:
broodwar
broodwar
broodwar
girlblog
honestly, cmon op
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Life without fun and filled with "achievement for the sake of achievements" is life wasted.
That said second list isn't all unfun and I'm assuming there is something you're working towards. Although would swap "Eat soldier pills" for "Learn to cook real food for every meal".
Good luck
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