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5 Reasons Why Dubstep is the New Disco

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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 15:06:00
April 24 2012 03:19 GMT
#1
Now, dear reader (since there's only one of you, I'll address you, personally) I know what you're thinking. "How dare this punk bash a whole genre of music!? Who hates on music? He must be one of those internet trolls I've heard about".

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Pictured: One of those internet trolls you've heard about. Certainly not Crownlol.

Before you go fetching your torches and pitchforks, consider this: Three years ago, did you know anything about dubstep? Maybe, but could you name 5 artists off the top of your head? I bet you can now. One totally isn't Skrillex, either, I'd wager.

Which brings me to the point of this little blog, friend. The music is infectious. Hell, I listen to it when I play League of Starcraft. But dubstep is doomed to a fate worse than "Disco Demolition Night", or that guy who got skewered by the Unicorn in Cabin in the Woods. Let's take a look at why, so we can tell all those scene kids that we told them so:


5: Incredibly Rapid Rise to Fame

Using This handy tool that no one except SEO nerds can comprehend, I was able to ascertain that at the start of 2010, only 1 person had ever searched for the term "dubstep" on google. At present "dubstep" registers nearly 60 billion ticks per mepafloop!

What this means in layman's terms, you unwashed peasant you, is that dubstep got huge really fast. Just like disco. This can be fatal for a genre, because as things get overly popular, they alienate their core audience.

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Actually, in this case that might not be awful.

Scenekids aside, once something becomes too popular it gets overproduced. And once something gets overproduced, all the fat dorky kids and pop-loving girls get into it. Which is really easy, because...


4: Dubstep is Easily Accessible and Non-Offensive

The defining characteristic of dubstep is the half-time drums, and wobbling lead melody. Literally anyone can listen to it and not think it's too much. There's no squealing guitars, no screeching vocals, no one with an accent so hood it's obviously practiced, and no ridiculous techno thump. Just a nice, steady rhythm that one can nod their head to. You can seriously play dubstep in the background while friends are over drinking and playing Apples to Apples. I've done it. I have friends, I totally do.

Furthermore, there's nothing to keep those people that ruin music away from it. There's no satanic lyrics, nothing about shooting people, absolutely nothing controversial. If little Susie heard one of her big brother's totally hot friends mention it, she can just go listen to it. Her mom will think she's watching cartoon robots or something.

3: Dubstep is Really, Really Easy to Dance To

"When black people dance, that's normal. When white people dance, it's regarded as a phenomenon" - Music Critic Dave Marsh

So that thing I just said about the half-time bass? That means if people can't dance in any style, they can just kind of bob along, and not feel stupid. However, if you can dance, dubstep is even more fun. Can you dance to hip-hop or house in a club? Go nuts. Can you rave? That works too. Can you shuffle? Shut up you fucking liar, that shit is impossible outside of Super Smash Brothers Melee.

By being easy to dance to dubstep, it not only makes it easy to listen to the music, but easy to participate in the music. And that's where get a massive influx of scenesters and pretenders.


2: Dubstep Has a Ridiculous Scene

The more outlandish a movement's "scene" is, the harder it'll eventually crash and burn.
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You were alive while this was cool.

I call this the "redtube" effect. You see, as people get more and more used to something, they need more and more extreme stimulation for it to be exciting. In music and social trends, this can lead to outlandish things like polyester suits, rhinestone-studded leather on straight dudes, or that candyguy from earlier. He probably spells it with an "i", god I hate him. You know what movement doesn't really have too-outlandish fashion? Hip-hop. You can wear like, a basketball jersey and perform ON STAGE, and you're totally in costume and character.

Dubstep, on the other hand, has these people: [image loading]

1: Dubstep is Really, Really Easy to Copy

The ingenuity of dubstep isn't in the technical ability of the DJ's, or the coolness of the samples. It's the freshness of the idea, the concept of mixing hip-hop and techno. It opens worlds, for stoner fans of rap and reggae to join with stoner fans of acid house and drum n bass.

The problem with having your uniqueness not be individual musicians, but a concept, is that it is really easy for big producers to just straight up rip off. Big production companies can very easily rip it off, reproduce a million tracks that sound just like the founding artists, and sell it to everything that moves.


Eventually, the artsy community where it started will get tired of hearing Christie Bubblegum bumping dubstep out of her Jeep Wrangler, and there will be a "Dubstep Demolition Night". I just hope some sort of metal renaissance fills the void.

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Not this metal.



If you enjoy my stuff, follow me on Twitter @Crownlol :D

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YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
April 24 2012 03:51 GMT
#2
I agree. Dubstep as a whole is starting to stagnate, and the only real new artists you see are all brostep "radio friendly" bullshit makers.

I can't wait to see what kind of backlash the eventual downfall of dubstep causes though :D since thats how we got the amazingness that was grunge.
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-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
April 24 2012 03:58 GMT
#3
Good comparison, but I disagree that's it's easy to listen and dance to.
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Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 04:10:25
April 24 2012 04:06 GMT
#4
I really enjoyed your entire blog and I think that you are extremely accurate. This is a definite 5/5 for being informative and entertaining to read.

My only problem with your write-up is that in the beginning you mockingly acknowledged a sole reader, yet later on you would refer to several readers. You need to be consistent in your writing!

Edit: for example, your referral to us (the audience) whom you stated to be a single person (me) as "unwashed peasents" (plural).

(I did like your jokes, don't get me wrong!)
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
April 24 2012 04:22 GMT
#5
Lol thanks Ana- the first part was merely some self-deprecating humor. I'll fix the pronoun disagreement :D
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 04:47:17
April 24 2012 04:46 GMT
#6
I agree with all of this except #4, in my experience it hasn't been the easiest genre of music to get my friends into. Sure there's no screechy guitars, but you get screechy/loud/obnoxious samples in a lot of it that turns a lot of people off.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
April 24 2012 07:38 GMT
#7
actually there are quite a few more offensive dubstep like I want to kill everybody in the world lol
and some people think it sounds like transformer being raped
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3Form
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom389 Posts
April 24 2012 12:40 GMT
#8
An acquaintance got me listening to some mixes from dubstepforum.com back in early 2008. I went back and listened to them again recently and the stuff was actually pretty good, chileld out - not this wobbly gash that is circulating nowadays (skrillex?).

Regardless it's not my preferred genre so the cool/fashionable/trendy kids can listen to that crap until they grow up for all I care.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
April 24 2012 12:44 GMT
#9
On April 24 2012 13:46 Vod.kaholic wrote:
I agree with all of this except #4, in my experience it hasn't been the easiest genre of music to get my friends into. Sure there's no screechy guitars, but you get screechy/loud/obnoxious samples in a lot of it that turns a lot of people off.


The genre has seemingly devolved into "who can do the most outlandish noises or the filthiest bass". The "redtube" effect!
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
April 24 2012 12:50 GMT
#10
I tend to agree. And just watching the arguments, if you can call them that, over the sub genres of it is ridiculously stupid. That said Pendulum / CellDweller <3 lol It can bring some damn good music.
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Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
April 24 2012 12:52 GMT
#11
I like some of the new 'filthy bass' stuff, but in general I like the more chill and eletric feely type of music better. My favorite dubstep artist is Skream for instance, but I also enjoy some Skrillex.

I just hate how riled up dubstep haters are and how far they will go out of their to make sure that you know dubstep isn't music. And on the opposite side of the spectrum you have equally annoying fanboys who would rather die than let someone have an opinion differing from their own.

Some day people will look past eachother's music preferences and we shall all become unified!
(I have a dream!!!!)
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Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
April 24 2012 13:04 GMT
#12
I don't really know what dubstep is. From what I've heard, its something that tone deaf people listen to. Disco is something girls listened to in the 70's.

I felt like sharing my ignorant opinion.
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chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
April 24 2012 13:06 GMT
#13
Lol. When you compared it to disco, I just kinda presumed you were going to say dubstep was good.

I guess it's just me then.

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Dance those ultras
trishmro
Profile Joined April 2012
1 Post
April 24 2012 13:28 GMT
#14
Quick FYI Omni, Pendulum isn't dubstep if that's what you were driving at.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 13:47:51
April 24 2012 13:47 GMT
#15
On April 24 2012 22:28 trishmro wrote:
Quick FYI Omni, Pendulum isn't dubstep if that's what you were driving at.


Two of its members formed Knife Party, though. They've produced some dubstep.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
April 24 2012 14:44 GMT
#16
On April 24 2012 22:04 Ghin wrote:
I don't really know what dubstep is. From what I've heard, its something that tone deaf people listen to. Disco is something girls listened to in the 70's.

I felt like sharing my ignorant opinion.



It really isn't all that awful. It's like techno, but with a very slow bass drum rhythm, instead of the heart-thumping 180BPM of other techno styles.

shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Lazy Sisyphos
Profile Joined March 2012
Austria6 Posts
May 20 2012 23:04 GMT
#17
I just hope some sort of metal renaissance fills the void.


HEEEYYYY :D

maybe you wanna check my music out. i am a metal guitarist/producer who developed a love for heavy bass-drops ^^

so yeah, i do dubstep, but in most of my songs you can hear a heavy metal-influence.

i have been producing for almost a decade now, but i just got started building an audience, any help is highly appreciated.

so feel free to like/share my stuff and give me some feedback

previews/downloads:

Facebook

ReverbNation

Soundcloud

(the songs with the most metal-influence are "insomnia", "reject" and "undeniable threats")

hope you enjoy, cheers! \m/


Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 20 2012 23:11 GMT
#18
"Can you shuffle? Shut up you fucking liar, that shit is impossible outside of Super Smash Brothers Melee."

this made me lol, but seriously i haven't seen many people able to dance to dubstep well before
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 21 2012 00:01 GMT
#19
There is a first confusion as to what Dubstep was (loud deep modulated bass lines or wobble bass and bass drop - something present in other DnB production), and what it described today as Dubstep by the main media which is a mix between Eurodance, Hard Tech, Trance and DnB (not exhaustive) - aka yet another genra made for mass dancing.

There is also a second confusion between the pictures you linked and reality - I'll described the first one as "fluo kid" and the second one as "bonker" both term being absolutely not coined by anyone else but me. - Neither of these archetype are characteristic of what you think the Dubstep crowd is. While there is a overlap between this clothing style and the music, both of these styles exist outside of the Dubstep movement and within other near genra, in particular Hard Tech and DnB.

But I agree that the genra you think is Dubstep but isn't will probably die out faster than Disco (and more like how the techno associated with Jumpstyle and Hardstyle died).
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
May 21 2012 00:22 GMT
#20
Your problem is that you don't see Dubstep for what it really is. You have to look at its beginnings to really understand that. Dubstep was raw and hard to grasp. It already came in very different shapes and there was no real scene. What Skrillex and others have made of it is very different.







Dubstep was never a formula. Music like this will not go away.

Same goes for Disco:

I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 21 2012 03:02 GMT
#21
hahaha really interesting post! i think i can agree with most points. except the outlandish outfits thing, cuz i think it's prevalent in many electronica cultures like hard trance and trance etc. ravers always look like that! and trance is still going strong

nice post!
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imanoobcs
Profile Joined January 2012
184 Posts
May 21 2012 05:07 GMT
#22
I used to like techno, but have been listening to a lot more dubstep lately. Similar but different music. I think I like dubstep more.
Amaterasu1234
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
May 21 2012 05:33 GMT
#23
And when all is said and done, I will continue listening to the genius beats of producers like Excision, Datsik, Joker, Liquid Stranger, and Ajapai....because I actually like the music, less for the stupid popularity contest, and more for the actual music.
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