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To my fans - Sorry the updates have been pretty on and off. I got some free time tonight so ill definitely try to give you guys at least a decent update.
Enjoy
P.S. I also found my blogs alot more interesting if i read them in Alan Wakes voice. Just throwin it out there
I had left her place once again. I took off shortly after 11 and headed home. When i arrived home my mom was still up working away at the computer on some report for work. She had greeted me and i had told her about picking Ashley up. Which was greeted with the hillarious and ironic response of
"Wow shes got you wrapped around her finger, one date and youre picking her up from school." I smirked a bit and made off to my room for an hour or so of lurking on TL and Family Guy.
Another night staring at the ceiling thinking about her. She was my girlfriend now. Thinking back, Replaying picking her up. She had laid her head on my chest. Totally not obligated to or anything. I remember her voice telling me its comfy, she enjoyed it.
I dozed off shortly after and woke around the usual time. Send her the good morning text. Typical day. Got work done, went home. Starcraft.
Friday night
Another long day at work, slowly ticking away. As if time knew i had another date tonight and was mocking me. The day was long and slow, leaving me with plenty of time to get everything done. But nothing to keep me occupied afterwards.
So trudging through the day at a snails pace we had texted back and forth as any new couple would have. Decided on dinner again, somewhere casual, cheap, easy. However we hadnt decided on what just yet. So the day ends and i almost step for step reenact Tuesday night. I hit the shower, scrubbed the hell out of my stained, tired hands. Got dressed. Checked the time.
6:27... again
And again, I ask her if its alright to show up at 7. She responds positively and i take off for her house once again.
I arrived at her house. The wind had picked up considerably from earlier in the day and was blowing snow around violently. I sprinted up the drvieway, jumped all 5 stairs, and stopped dead at her door. I wasnt quite as nervous tonight, I still had a woman to impress but at least my foot was in the door.
Tonight was different though. Tonight its like there was something at the back of my mind. Something that needed to be said. But what was it?
Eh... i dunno.
I shook it off when she had opened the door with another one of those heartwarming smiles. and joined me out on the porch. We met in a strong embrace as if we hadnt seen each other in years. It seemed like it but it was more along the lines of 20ish hours. The wind whipped between us and neither of us cared. She smiled up at me.
"Dont be so nervous tonight" and pulled me in for a long, warm kiss. We pulled back and smiled at each other and ran for my truck. I cranked the heat up and we took off for the other side of town.
As per usual light chatter filled the truck back and forth. She told me about her BFFL being in Florida and being jealous of her. Her stupid professor again. How she hates getting checked out by "wiggers" where she works. The usual conversations.
Driving around on the other side of town was proving to be the wrong idea. The busiest part of town was also the most sparse in the restaurant area. Chilis would have to do.
We had pulled in and had to circle the parking lot twice, there were literally no spots left. I made a wisecrack about there not being a reserved spot for "Princess Ashley" we both laughed and continued on our quest to find a spot to park.
And of course on the couldest windiest day of the year, we had to park in the Borders parking lot roughly 50 feet away from the Chilis parking lot. Lovely.
"Alright Princess, you ready to run?" I joked with her.
"Uh... no, Princesses dont run." She retorted with a smile.
We both got out and walked briskly towards the building. The wind had shifted behind us and was blowing stronger than ever. We had finally made it to the sidewalk to the entrance shortly after the torrent of wind and snow began pummeling us. She had all but hunched up in a ball walking, trying to reduce the amount of body getting blasted by the wind.
I stopped until she got a few steps ahead and began walking behind her. Blocking what i could. I knew that by my body size (5' 11"ish 200 lbs) being chilled to death must have been considerably hard on her, seeing as she is a few inches shorter and having quite a bit less body fat than I.
We arrived at the doors and the wind had completely stopped. Walking in we waited to be seated, She wrapped her arm around mine and put her head on my shoulder.
"That was really sweet. Thank you" Her face was a bit red from the cold. Or possibly my nice gesture. Either way was alright.
We were seated shortly after at a table 2 feet higher than it had any business being. The waiter took our orders, And we got down to business.
Tonight was more on a serious tone. Neither of us was quite as nervous now so we could dive a bit deeper and learn a bit more about each other. The conversation started with her asking about my family.
"Well... most of them are dead to be honest" It was true. My family name was dying. Out of all the extended family i knew existed, (roughly 15ish relatives) most had passed on except for one grandma and one aunt, that i had personally disowned. "Theres really only my grandma on my mothers side that lives up in Port Huron. Shes quite the inspiring woman, pretty funny too." And i explained shortly after that why i had decided to disown my aunt. "She had posted an Obama bashing thread on Facebook" i took a sip from my drink. Her eyes showed a bit of confusion "I had decided to throw my own 2 cents in. And she had recently married a carreer Navy officer so she was hardcore Republican now. Either way she didnt agree with what i said, She was being a bitch really. And all i did was try to explain very calmly that Obama isnt the reason why were in the middle east still, why theres gays in the military, and why nobody can prove hes some muslim thats trying to blow up america" Her eyes rolled along with mine. "Well she got more and more pissed off the more and more i shot down her extremely wrong points, and it turned into a "Im glad my parents are dead so they didnt see what a monster youve become" kind of thing" Her jaw had dropped.
A little more backstory. My father is Korean. The first 5 years of my life i had spent almost exclusively with my Korean grandmother. I was hit especially hard when news of her death had come to me. To this day i still miss her and wish i could have spent more time with her and learned more about my family history. Alas. Time is cruel
Needless to say, if she had said that to my face, She would have never spoken again.
So my familys rich tapestry is laid out on the table. I figured lets talk about hers.
Big mistake
She began talking about her father. The biological one. "He was an asshole. He treated me and mom like shit. He would drink and beat us" My heart sunk a bit "I had told my mom for years to divorce him. He was an alcoholic and an asshole. He made his living mowing lawns. most of which he bought alcohol with" My heart sunk even lower. Our food had arrived and we began to eat. However it didnt stop the veritable shitstorm of emotions built up over time. In between bites she continued; "Theres only one grandma in my family that still likes me. I like to spend quite a bit of time with her. She loves Logan to pieces." My heart had completely stopped. Time had stopped. It was that little clue that you know a bombshell is going to hit you.
A cold fear had washed over me. Time had come back to normal. And here it comes.
"Logan..." Her eyes turned towards the table. "His useless fucking dad..."
Oh god. If there was anything i knew never to bring up with a single mother it was that.
"That stupid piece of shit... He was just fucking useless. He was like every other guy i had dated. Sweet talking me "Were going to be together forever" and "I love you so much" and what the fuck happens when we have unprotected sex? I get fucking knocked up. And of course "Oh well take care of him together. Were going to be together forever" one week before Logan is born he fucking disappears. His whole fucking family had packed up and ran to Indiana." The feeling of fear had completely consumed me. Like i had opened Pandoras Box. "In fact. You probably knew him. He was in with the Auto Shop class" My heart had hit my feet.
I took Auto Shop most years of high school. Mostly because it was a fun class and i was already predisposed to fixing cars. Easy A. But looking back at the "Auto Shop Crew" and realizing one of them was the biological father of the child i may have to raise someday, made me completely freeze. My mind writhed with questions. I had to know. Even though i didnt want to know.
"So... what was his name?" i managed to squeak out. She looked up at me.
"Chris White"
The world around me shattered and i watched myself fly back through time. Back further and further to Junior year of high school. The memory played out in front of me.
"Dude... i need your help..." Chris had come running to me in the halls between classes, at the time we were decent friends. We would joke around and have fun in class but never really spoke much outside of school. "Ashleys pregnant... i dont know what to do"
"I uh... What did you want me to say about that?" My former self asked, my careless expression plastered my face
"I dont know man! im freaking the fuck out!" He shook me "What the hell would you do?!"
"I would man the fuck up and marry her. You dont have much of a choice now" I looked at him seriously in the eyes, i sensed his disapproval. That being the answer he didnt want to hear.
"Fuck man im not ready for this... There got to be some way out of this!" The memory had stopped. Snapping back to reality, hearing his sentance echo in my ears. I had turned back to her.
"Yeah i remember him. I didnt think he had it in him to run away" She had finished her mini burgers. "I mean, Really he seemed like he would have stuck with you" I tried to salvage the situation. I put her hands in mine and held them together. "Im really sorry he did that..." Her warm expression came back.
"I know... just thinking about it brings back alot of bad memories... That bastard only gave me one child support check. He probably stole that money from his grandma because they were all dirt poor." The check had come and i decided its about time for us to get the hell out so that we dont bring up any more bad memories.
We walked out and the wind miraculously picked up again. blasting us from the front this time. I took the lead and took the full force of the wind. The snow particles felt like daggers stabbing rapidly into me. I stood strong and walked all the way to the truck. My pants freezing to my legs, my nostrils freezing closed, the feeling of utter pain.
We had gotten into my truck and taken off. My face slowly thawed and we talked a little bit on the drive back to her place. A few roads before her place she asked if maybe we could park somewhere and talk a bit more. It was only 9 after all. And i knew the perfect place.
The local boat launch.
Many a child conceived in backseats here. Many a makeout session happened as well. Just a small parking lot overlooking the lake, streetlights dotted to parking lot here and there. We circled around the parking lot. Nobody. Perfect. We parked under a light, the sunroof of my truck let a brilliant white glow into the seat.
I got that feeling again. I gotta say something. My heart started racing.
"Look... Ashley..." She undid her seatbelt and scooted closer to me "I know its only been about a week now. And i understand youve had a bunch of terrible past relationships..." She laid her head on my chest "We both have. I just want you to know... Im not going anywhere. In a week youve treated me better than anyone. Gotten to know me better than anyone." Her head nestled a bit deeper. "I just want you to know that youve been in every thought and dream ive had lately. That i have been talking about you nonstop to all my friends about what i think about you" She turned her head up, The light made her beautiful skin glow.
"What do you think about me?" She said, eyes still closed.
"I..." I picked her head off my chest and held it gently in both of my hands, staring into her eyes. "I think youre the most beautiful woman ive ever met, Youre sweet, Youre caring, I just cant stop thinking about you..." My mind kept racing. What else could i say? "You just blow my mind. Youre so... perfect for me." She smiled a bit and i pulled her in close for a hug. My lips ended up next to her ear. My mind struggled to grasp what i was thinking. My heart was about to break my ribcage. And all i could think of was her. Our hearts beat in unision in our embrace.
I pulled her head even closer, my lips almost on her ear
"Ashley..." What was i saying? I didnt have anything written in my mind to say.
"...I love you"
To be continued
By the way i promised a pic. This was the best we could do. All of the others turned out bad lol...
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wait, you told a chick, on your second date, who just complained about all the guys before her telling her they loved her and would be together forever etc... that you love her?
Really?
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Yarly.
Is that a problem for you?
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Oh man I was totally engrossed into the story while I was reading it. Great read!
Oh man I'm SO curious what her response was. What a cliffhanger. >_<
Oh man you two look good together. ^^ Can't even tell you're part Asian btw. =x
I've busted the "I love you" line before a second date before.
... didn't go very well for me though. xD But I was young and naive back then, definitely won't happen again. ^^
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There was alot of details between the dates that had happened. Either way it felt right. And it still does. No regrets.
Edit : Most people think im mexican. Her mom did actually loooool.
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Even when it turns out OK doesn't mean it was a good idea, haha good luck man, keep em coming.
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It was a perfectly good idea... At the time. lol
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Edit : Most people think im mexican. Her mom did actually loooool.
A lot of people think I'm half white, half hispanic even though I'm 100% Asian. qq
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On March 09 2011 11:06 Souma wrote:A lot of people think I'm half white, half hispanic even though I'm 100% Asian. qq
qq indeed :[
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You had me riveted the entire way. I actually stopped writing my paper which is due in about 50 minutes for this.
MOAR!
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Just doing my part for the community.
MOAR to come, definitely
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droppin the L-bomb on the second date, bold move lol....
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I really enjoy your blogs every time. Except I expected more in the picture. Oh well still a good read I guess
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pic so small x_x
Great story btw. Keep it rolling! There wasn't exactly a twist in this one as I expected, maybe won't be one...
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dang, pretty bold move. A bit of a romanticist are we? As long as this series doesn't turn out to be another Dream)Xero, then I will keep following!
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Love your sotry :D
But I have to admit that the 'I love you' on the second date was kinda early. An 'I really really like you' would have done the same job imho.
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lolz how the hell can you love someone after 2 dates? I never tell a girl I love them first.
I freaked out when my current GF told me she loves me. It was maybe 3-5 months into the relationship. She looked at me like I was stupid when I wouldn't say I love her back. I manned up and told her I don't know her enough to make a claim of loving her back. Well now it's over 9 months into the relationship and I hear that phrase 24/7.
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I've been following your story for a while man, it's really heartwarming so far 
Thanks for sharing that with us all <3
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telling her love that you love her this early in a relationship is a sign of insecurity. girls can see that too. not all, but most girls yes. you definitely jumped the gun on that one and to be honest, you won't know if you love her until you've been through more than 2 dates. infatuation doesn't mean you love her. if you love her, 10 months or more from now, you will buckle down with her and help her through the toughest struggles in her life and not waiver. that is love.
http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove/59_relationship_expert.html
http://www.tressugar.com/Do-Tell-When-Too-Soon-Say-I-Love-You-1053886
read that^^
but i will say that your writing skills are good. you make the story enjoyable to read.
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oh snap, love balance reports and strategy advice.
I'm still reading ^^
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Another part! Arrrrrrrrgh! Loving this series so far, glad you had the cojones to say something like that on the second date man. Your a lil baller keep it up! ^^
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hmm this is actually disturbing now i know it's a true story
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On March 09 2011 17:03 AyeH wrote:telling her love that you love her this early in a relationship is a sign of insecurity. girls can see that too. not all, but most girls yes. you definitely jumped the gun on that one and to be honest, you won't know if you love her until you've been through more than 2 dates. infatuation doesn't mean you love her. if you love her, 10 months or more from now, you will buckle down with her and help her through the toughest struggles in her life and not waiver. that is love. http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove/59_relationship_expert.htmlhttp://www.tressugar.com/Do-Tell-When-Too-Soon-Say-I-Love-You-1053886read that^^ but i will say that your writing skills are good. you make the story enjoyable to read.
Thanks for the effort. But i wasnt really asking for advice here.
Like i said there was alot more going on between everything i wrote. The point is i said it because it felt right, not out of insecurity.
Thanks for the input
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Well, I for one have no problem with you telling you love her that early. I mean, if you think it felt right and she did too, then there's really no harm to it.
I am a hopeless romantic and don't give a damn about the stupid "rules of love", you should always make sure you show your loved ones your true feelings.
That my 2 cents at least. Love this story by the way!
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I love this love story!! :D
That sounds so damn romantic! you go boy!
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On March 09 2011 22:30 MOARpylons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2011 17:03 AyeH wrote:telling her love that you love her this early in a relationship is a sign of insecurity. girls can see that too. not all, but most girls yes. you definitely jumped the gun on that one and to be honest, you won't know if you love her until you've been through more than 2 dates. infatuation doesn't mean you love her. if you love her, 10 months or more from now, you will buckle down with her and help her through the toughest struggles in her life and not waiver. that is love. http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove/59_relationship_expert.htmlhttp://www.tressugar.com/Do-Tell-When-Too-Soon-Say-I-Love-You-1053886read that^^ but i will say that your writing skills are good. you make the story enjoyable to read. Thanks for the effort. But i wasnt really asking for advice here. Like i said there was alot more going on between everything i wrote. The point is i said it because it felt right, not out of insecurity. Thanks for the input
it felt right because you are infatuated with her...
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On March 10 2011 03:36 AyeH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2011 22:30 MOARpylons wrote:On March 09 2011 17:03 AyeH wrote:telling her love that you love her this early in a relationship is a sign of insecurity. girls can see that too. not all, but most girls yes. you definitely jumped the gun on that one and to be honest, you won't know if you love her until you've been through more than 2 dates. infatuation doesn't mean you love her. if you love her, 10 months or more from now, you will buckle down with her and help her through the toughest struggles in her life and not waiver. that is love. http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove/59_relationship_expert.htmlhttp://www.tressugar.com/Do-Tell-When-Too-Soon-Say-I-Love-You-1053886read that^^ but i will say that your writing skills are good. you make the story enjoyable to read. Thanks for the effort. But i wasnt really asking for advice here. Like i said there was alot more going on between everything i wrote. The point is i said it because it felt right, not out of insecurity. Thanks for the input it felt right because you are infatuated with her...
no matter what hes feeling for her, he and her are happy (up till end of p6) so who are we to judge :D
keep the chapters cominn mann
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On March 10 2011 03:36 AyeH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2011 22:30 MOARpylons wrote:On March 09 2011 17:03 AyeH wrote:telling her love that you love her this early in a relationship is a sign of insecurity. girls can see that too. not all, but most girls yes. you definitely jumped the gun on that one and to be honest, you won't know if you love her until you've been through more than 2 dates. infatuation doesn't mean you love her. if you love her, 10 months or more from now, you will buckle down with her and help her through the toughest struggles in her life and not waiver. that is love. http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove/59_relationship_expert.htmlhttp://www.tressugar.com/Do-Tell-When-Too-Soon-Say-I-Love-You-1053886read that^^ but i will say that your writing skills are good. you make the story enjoyable to read. Thanks for the effort. But i wasnt really asking for advice here. Like i said there was alot more going on between everything i wrote. The point is i said it because it felt right, not out of insecurity. Thanks for the input it felt right because you are infatuated with her...
As much as it hurts to say this, he is entirely right.
Sooner or later, that infatuation may or may not become love, but right now where your story is at, its 100% infatuation.
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MOARpylons is a big boy, I'm sure he doesn't need a lecture on infatuation/love.
I'll agree that in most cases, early on it is usually feelings of infatuation and not love, but there is not a single one of you who can disprove that on the off-chance, it might just be love, and I believe that in rare cases there is such things as "love at first sight."
You're trying to be realistic, but in reality, we just don't know and can never know until much, much later, if even.
The story isn't over yet, anyway, so just hold onto your pants. 
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This entire story has trouble written all over it...
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it can only be love if one's definition of love is infatuation.. his true love will be tested after a few years of dating her. i don't think he'll be writing stories for that long though.
it would've been more appropriate if he had said "i really like you" but it's already said and done.
and i agree with iceman331. it's going to be hard for the guy to forget about the fact that one of his good friends had sex with "ashley" and that the "ashley" he had heard about in high school was the ashley that he is dating now. the whole kid thing (knowing that his friend is the father of the kid) is going to be a pain in the ass too. good luck with ashley and the kid. i guess it's important to remember that you aren't just dating ashley, you are dating the kid too (as weird as that may sound). sooner or later, you'll have to become that father figure to him because that's what ashley will want. just thought i'd put it out there bluntly because when people are infatuated with someone/something, they overlook the negatives that a bystander would not.
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On March 10 2011 06:19 AyeH wrote:
it can only be love if one's definition of love is infatuation.. his true love will be tested after a few years of dating her. i don't think he'll be writing stories for that long though.
it would've been more appropriate if he had said "i really like you" but it's already said and done.
and i agree with iceman331. it's going to be hard for the guy to forget about the fact that one of his good friends had sex with "ashley" and that the "ashley" he had heard about in high school was the ashley that he is dating now. the whole kid thing (knowing that his friend is the father of the kid) is going to be a pain in the ass too. good luck with ashley and the kid. i guess it's important to remember that you aren't just dating ashley, you are dating the kid too (as weird as that may sound). sooner or later, you'll have to become that father figure to him because that's what ashley will want. just thought i'd put it out there bluntly because when people are infatuated with someone/something, they overlook the negatives that a bystander would not.
Look man, I dont want to sound like a total asshole but who exactly are you? I didnt ask for Dr. Phil to coach me on my life. Its my story and ill do what i please.
That being said. I understand that dating a single mother can be stressful, Ive lived it over the past couple weeks. I completely understand what im doing and getting myself into here. I know this isnt going to be like dating some random chick with no attachments.
And if you read this part of the story youll find that we werent that good of friends. Besides that Im not going to dwell on who fucked who back in high school. Thats childish.
Whether you believe in love at first sight or not, dont just come into my blog and start dictating over me about my personal feelings, about my actions, telling me that im just infatuated.
I really see what youre trying to do here. And thanks for caring. But I didnt ask for advice. This is my life - my story and ill write it how i want.
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I fell in love at first sight with this rib eye steak I ate at David Burke's that shit was all kinds of delicious.
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On March 10 2011 08:36 MOARpylons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 06:19 AyeH wrote:
it can only be love if one's definition of love is infatuation.. his true love will be tested after a few years of dating her. i don't think he'll be writing stories for that long though.
it would've been more appropriate if he had said "i really like you" but it's already said and done.
and i agree with iceman331. it's going to be hard for the guy to forget about the fact that one of his good friends had sex with "ashley" and that the "ashley" he had heard about in high school was the ashley that he is dating now. the whole kid thing (knowing that his friend is the father of the kid) is going to be a pain in the ass too. good luck with ashley and the kid. i guess it's important to remember that you aren't just dating ashley, you are dating the kid too (as weird as that may sound). sooner or later, you'll have to become that father figure to him because that's what ashley will want. just thought i'd put it out there bluntly because when people are infatuated with someone/something, they overlook the negatives that a bystander would not. Look man, I dont want to sound like a total asshole but who exactly are you? I didnt ask for Dr. Phil to coach me on my life. Its my story and ill do what i please. That being said. I understand that dating a single mother can be stressful, Ive lived it over the past couple weeks. I completely understand what im doing and getting myself into here. I know this isnt going to be like dating some random chick with no attachments. And if you read this part of the story youll find that we werent that good of friends. Besides that Im not going to dwell on who fucked who back in high school. Thats childish. Whether you believe in love at first sight or not, dont just come into my blog and start dictating over me about my personal feelings, about my actions, telling me that im just infatuated. I really see what youre trying to do here. And thanks for caring. But I didnt ask for advice. This is my life - my story and ill write it how i want.
Haha, no need to get your feelings hurt over the issue. I'm just saying you aren't really in love. I just wouldn't want people to read your stories and think it's totally fine just to throw around the word "love" like you did. From your stories, I can already tell you aren't very experienced in dating and spilling out "I love you" is a very stupid thing on the second date. Tell people out of TL in your real life what you said and they'd say the exact same thing I did. You put this on the blogs for people to comment on and read and what not, and that's what I'm doing. If you have a problem with that, just ignore my comments. It's not like I'm saying your story sucks or that you are in a hopeless situation. I'm just giving you advice because you seem very inexperienced.
P.S. Just from the way you tell your story and talk about her, it sounds like infatuation. Just think about it, how could you fall in love with a person you've only known for so little?
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On March 10 2011 09:46 AyeH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 08:36 MOARpylons wrote:On March 10 2011 06:19 AyeH wrote:
it can only be love if one's definition of love is infatuation.. his true love will be tested after a few years of dating her. i don't think he'll be writing stories for that long though.
it would've been more appropriate if he had said "i really like you" but it's already said and done.
and i agree with iceman331. it's going to be hard for the guy to forget about the fact that one of his good friends had sex with "ashley" and that the "ashley" he had heard about in high school was the ashley that he is dating now. the whole kid thing (knowing that his friend is the father of the kid) is going to be a pain in the ass too. good luck with ashley and the kid. i guess it's important to remember that you aren't just dating ashley, you are dating the kid too (as weird as that may sound). sooner or later, you'll have to become that father figure to him because that's what ashley will want. just thought i'd put it out there bluntly because when people are infatuated with someone/something, they overlook the negatives that a bystander would not. Look man, I dont want to sound like a total asshole but who exactly are you? I didnt ask for Dr. Phil to coach me on my life. Its my story and ill do what i please. That being said. I understand that dating a single mother can be stressful, Ive lived it over the past couple weeks. I completely understand what im doing and getting myself into here. I know this isnt going to be like dating some random chick with no attachments. And if you read this part of the story youll find that we werent that good of friends. Besides that Im not going to dwell on who fucked who back in high school. Thats childish. Whether you believe in love at first sight or not, dont just come into my blog and start dictating over me about my personal feelings, about my actions, telling me that im just infatuated. I really see what youre trying to do here. And thanks for caring. But I didnt ask for advice. This is my life - my story and ill write it how i want. Haha, no need to get your feelings hurt over the issue. I'm just saying you aren't really in love. I just wouldn't want people to read your stories and think it's totally fine just to throw around the word "love" like you did. From your stories, I can already tell you aren't very experienced in dating and spilling out "I love you" is a very stupid thing on the second date. Tell people out of TL in your real life what you said and they'd say the exact same thing I did. You put this on the blogs for people to comment on and read and what not, and that's what I'm doing. If you have a problem with that, just ignore my comments. It's not like I'm saying your story sucks or that you are in a hopeless situation. I'm just giving you advice because you seem very inexperienced. P.S. Just from the way you tell your story and talk about her, it sounds like infatuation. Just think about it, how could you fall in love with a person you've only known for so little?
My feelings are fine. Im just saying I didnt ask for advice, no matter how "inexperienced" i sound to you. But of course you really dont know me or what was said or done between these entries, there was quite a bit. I put these out here to express my feelings and weave a story. I didnt know someone like you would have to pick it apart and try to give me advice that i didnt ask for.
Thanks but please stop. Leave constructive criticism on the story or compliments. But no more "Advice" Thank you
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Aight, that's fine with me. Hehe. I guess that's what you get when you post things on an internet forum. People tell you things you don't want to hear.
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On March 10 2011 10:42 arb wrote:
FUCK MORE
*MOAR
Great story. Keep writing!
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I was going to put my two cents in on the side of infatuation at this point, but if you believe it to be love, that is what matters. Your writing is entertaining and has a way of drawing readers in. Have you considered pursuing writing further?
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OH NO The L-Bomb already!
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OH NO YOU DIDN'T!
You Mosby-ed her!
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On March 10 2011 10:07 AyeH wrote:
Aight, that's fine with me. Hehe. I guess that's what you get when you post things on an internet forum. People tell you things you don't want to hear.
No, that's what you get for being arrogant and derailing the thread into a topic of infatuation vs. love.
It's a story, not a 'what do i do with this girl?' or 'is this really love?' blog.
Anyways, thanks for the stories keeps me entertained when I should be asleep.
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On March 10 2011 15:56 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 10:07 AyeH wrote:
Aight, that's fine with me. Hehe. I guess that's what you get when you post things on an internet forum. People tell you things you don't want to hear. No, that's what you get for being arrogant and derailing the thread into a topic of infatuation vs. love. It's a story, not a 'what do i do with this girl?' or 'is this really love?' blog. Anyways, thanks for the stories keeps me entertained when I should be asleep.
lol it doesn't make me arrogant to give a person advice that most people would find to be good advice. the story ended with him saying i love u so thats why i'm commenting on it. just because i want to comment on his story via advice and criticism doesn't mean i'm arrogant. i'm not derailing the thread when it has to do with his story.
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On March 09 2011 17:03 AyeH wrote:telling her love that you love her this early in a relationship is a sign of insecurity. girls can see that too. not all, but most girls yes. you definitely jumped the gun on that one and to be honest, you won't know if you love her until you've been through more than 2 dates. infatuation doesn't mean you love her. if you love her, 10 months or more from now, you will buckle down with her and help her through the toughest struggles in her life and not waiver. that is love. http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove/59_relationship_expert.htmlhttp://www.tressugar.com/Do-Tell-When-Too-Soon-Say-I-Love-You-1053886read that^^ but i will say that your writing skills are good. you make the story enjoyable to read.
Want to quote this because this is very important. Although I've never actually felt love for a girl, maybe because I can always see myself getting another one, but even if I did, I wouldn't tell her that, and especially never early in a relationship. Like this good man says, it basically shows how insecure you are. But yeah OP, she looks kinda cute in that picture you put of her. Not going to lie though, she looks a bit out of your league, so nice catch.
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On March 10 2011 14:43 Straught wrote:
OH NO YOU DIDN'T!
You Mosby-ed her!
Lol okay, this made me laugh.
But really, can we all just agree to disagree and stop arguing this further? It's a nice story and you guys are ruining the mood with stuff that cannot be proven.
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I cringe so bad when I hear him call her princess.
edit: typo
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On March 10 2011 14:43 Straught wrote:
OH NO YOU DIDN'T!
You Mosby-ed her!
ROFL! that's a good one. considering i watch that show religiously. lol
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On March 10 2011 16:02 AyeH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 15:56 Conversion wrote:On March 10 2011 10:07 AyeH wrote:
Aight, that's fine with me. Hehe. I guess that's what you get when you post things on an internet forum. People tell you things you don't want to hear. No, that's what you get for being arrogant and derailing the thread into a topic of infatuation vs. love. It's a story, not a 'what do i do with this girl?' or 'is this really love?' blog. Anyways, thanks for the stories keeps me entertained when I should be asleep. lol it doesn't make me arrogant to give a person advice that most people would find to be good advice. the story ended with him saying i love u so thats why i'm commenting on it. just because i want to comment on his story via advice and criticism doesn't mean i'm arrogant. i'm not derailing the thread when it has to do with his story.
It does make you arrogant because you persist on this blog to constantly give your opinion when it doesnt matter.
Youre basically "That guy" on the strategy forums that says "Didnt watch the replay but here what i would do..." and then cites "BTW im a 5k point master T"
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On March 11 2011 05:50 MOARpylons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 16:02 AyeH wrote:On March 10 2011 15:56 Conversion wrote:On March 10 2011 10:07 AyeH wrote:
Aight, that's fine with me. Hehe. I guess that's what you get when you post things on an internet forum. People tell you things you don't want to hear. No, that's what you get for being arrogant and derailing the thread into a topic of infatuation vs. love. It's a story, not a 'what do i do with this girl?' or 'is this really love?' blog. Anyways, thanks for the stories keeps me entertained when I should be asleep. lol it doesn't make me arrogant to give a person advice that most people would find to be good advice. the story ended with him saying i love u so thats why i'm commenting on it. just because i want to comment on his story via advice and criticism doesn't mean i'm arrogant. i'm not derailing the thread when it has to do with his story. It does make you arrogant because you persist on this blog to constantly give your opinion when it doesnt matter. Youre basically "That guy" on the strategy forums that says "Didnt watch the replay but here what i would do..." and then cites "BTW im a 5k point master T"
After clearly analyzing your stories (kind of like watching a replay), I said what I wanted to say. It definitely seems like you are inexperienced and very insecure because why else would you say I love you to a girl if you knew the difference between love and infatuation? Once you get past 6-8 months, you'll realize what love is. Maybe sooner, but not on the second date. And I'm not the only person here stating that you dropped the L word too early. For christsake, the first comment on your blog stated it as well.
Just because I'm not praising you and saying everything you did was perfect doesn't mean I'm arrogant. It just makes you seem even more insecure because you can't take good advice from people.
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You are actually being extremely arrogant.
And by the way, at this point it's not advice, it's just criticism.
The whole situation with you claiming your view on love and infatuation reigns supreme and if he doesn't agree he's just being insecure = you being arrogant/closed-minded.
Now, we all agree that he dropped the Mosby too early, but you really can't just dismiss his feelings because of what you think love and infatuation is. I'll even agree with you that in the mass majority of cases, you would be right, it's more often infatuation.
But really, how can you tell another guy what he is feeling at a single moment in time, especially when you know nothing about him and were not there with him? The way you push your case so hard on an issue that cannot be proven is arrogance. You may be trying to be realistic, but if you tell me there is never, in the history of the entire world and its infinite future, a case where someone can fall head over heels early on in a relationship or at first sight, I would have to say that you are not being realistic, but prejudiced against love.
A few years from now MOARpylons may look back on that moment and know what the feeling really was; whether it was infatuation, love, impulse, or a combination of such. For now, though, don't deny a man his feelings; the heart knows what it wants.
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The problem doesn't lie within the content or what you meant with your message, you just flat out believe you're not wrong.
Sure, other people said it too, but they don't tell him that he's being insecure and that he's infatuated. They show him mild disapproval as, who would have guessed, their opinions don't agree. You took it too far and basically assume he was infatuated and insecure. He may or may not be, but do you really have a right to tell him that?
At this point, you're just being completely narrow minded. You're blinded by thinking he doesn't want to listen to "good advice." No matter how good the advice is, if one didn't ask for it, it's worthless. You don't see me going around to all the people in grief, "Suck it up. You're not going to go anywhere just mourning. Move on with your life; it's the best thing to do." Is it true and good advice? Perhaps. Does the situation call for it? Absolutely not. If he never asked you for advice, don't give it to him. There's a difference between giving constructive criticism at opportune times and just throwing out your "good advice" when he didn't ask for it.
Stop being arrogant by thinking you're right. You were obviously in the wrong by saying he was infatuated ans insecure. Don't give advice where it's not needed; it's a simple concept.
edit - ninja'd by the guy above me and took out offensive word. no need for insults.
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On March 11 2011 07:23 AyeH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2011 05:50 MOARpylons wrote:On March 10 2011 16:02 AyeH wrote:On March 10 2011 15:56 Conversion wrote:On March 10 2011 10:07 AyeH wrote:
Aight, that's fine with me. Hehe. I guess that's what you get when you post things on an internet forum. People tell you things you don't want to hear. No, that's what you get for being arrogant and derailing the thread into a topic of infatuation vs. love. It's a story, not a 'what do i do with this girl?' or 'is this really love?' blog. Anyways, thanks for the stories keeps me entertained when I should be asleep. lol it doesn't make me arrogant to give a person advice that most people would find to be good advice. the story ended with him saying i love u so thats why i'm commenting on it. just because i want to comment on his story via advice and criticism doesn't mean i'm arrogant. i'm not derailing the thread when it has to do with his story. It does make you arrogant because you persist on this blog to constantly give your opinion when it doesnt matter. Youre basically "That guy" on the strategy forums that says "Didnt watch the replay but here what i would do..." and then cites "BTW im a 5k point master T" After clearly analyzing your stories (kind of like watching a replay), I said what I wanted to say. It definitely seems like you are inexperienced and very insecure because why else would you say I love you to a girl if you knew the difference between love and infatuation? Once you get past 6-8 months, you'll realize what love is. Maybe sooner, but not on the second date. And I'm not the only person here stating that you dropped the L word too early. For christsake, the first comment on your blog stated it as well. Just because I'm not praising you and saying everything you did was perfect doesn't mean I'm arrogant. It just makes you seem even more insecure because you can't take good advice from people.
Youre arrogant because YOURE the only one whos kept going on with it. Youre "Analyzing" way too far into a story that isnt finished or even includes all the details. Youre taking it WAY too seriously. Nobody asked for advice or for you to keep coming back to throw your two cents in and try to rally everyone else who thinks the same as you.
What you dont realize is im not you. Im not as insecure as you think. I do know the difference between love and infatuation. Youve stated your opinion many many times. And yet when someone tries to at least stick up for me just a little you come back and shoot them down and continue on trying to dominate this derailed bullshit. Its a story, not a "OMG I DROPPED THE L BOMB SECOND DATE HELP PLS" blog.
You know why i said it? Because this woman has stolen my heart. Her, Her son, Her Family, and all of her flaws. It doesnt matter to me. This is alot more serious than any other woman ive dated. Any hardship well have we will conquer. And no "Dating Professionals" on websites, or the random naysayer on TL is going to change that.
But seriously this is just childish. Stop pointing out what you think is right for me and apply it to your life
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On March 11 2011 08:14 Souma wrote:
You are actually being extremely arrogant.
And by the way, at this point it's not advice, it's just criticism.
The whole situation with you claiming your view on love and infatuation reigns supreme and if he doesn't agree he's just being insecure = you being arrogant/closed-minded.
Now, we all agree that he dropped the Mosby too early, but you really can't just dismiss his feelings because of what you think love and infatuation is. I'll even agree with you that in the mass majority of cases, you would be right, it's more often infatuation.
But really, how can you tell another guy what he is feeling at a single moment in time, especially when you know nothing about him and were not there with him? The way you push your case so hard on an issue that cannot be proven is arrogance. You may be trying to be realistic, but if you tell me there is never, in the history of the entire world and its infinite future, a case where someone can fall head over heels early on in a relationship or at first sight, I would have to say that you are not being realistic, but prejudiced against love.
A few years from now MOARpylons may look back on that moment and know what the feeling really was; whether it was infatuation, love, impulse, or a combination of such. For now, though, don't deny a man his feelings; the heart knows what it wants.
Head over heels does not equal love. To most people, it means you are obsessed with the person.
What I'm saying is that love is more than falling head over heels for someone. It's way past that. And from the story, you can get a clear sense of how he thinks and who he is. You can read the story and see his person in the story. So don't say that just because I'm not him or I wasn't there, doesn't mean I don't know exactly how he feels. I've had feelings like he has for Ashley with my current gf but I knew that it wasn't love. Not until much later. There's no such thing as love at first sight. Everything is physical. Love goes more than physical.
Plus, you read what he says and he goes on saying how he was freaking out about certain things. Why would you tell a person you love them when you can't even wrap your head around their own problems?
I'm no longer advising him and just responding to people's comments. At first I was advising, but now I'm just defending my points. That doesn't make me arrogant. Just because I'm stating an obvious truth and you are unable to grasp it doesn't make me arrogant. You are being arrogant by stating that I am arrogant, then going about saying how I am probably right, but that there is a sliver of chance that I am wrong. If I am arrogant, so are you. Because your position cannot be proven either.
I'm not saying he can't be obsessed with her. All I told him was to get his feelings in check because infatuation is not the same as love and you shouldn't be going up to every girl you fall for and tell them that you love her on the second date because unlike him, most girls take love more seriously than a four letter word.
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You're obsessed with her, you're not in love. Be honest, what's the longest relationship you've been in? That should explain a lot.
Infatuation can cause people to dismiss people's flaws at first. You must be really inexperienced.
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I was in a commited relationship before this one for 4 years. I dropped the L bomb then 8 months in.
Hmm... Not quite as inexperienced as you thought
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On March 11 2011 08:30 AyeH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2011 08:14 Souma wrote:
You are actually being extremely arrogant.
And by the way, at this point it's not advice, it's just criticism.
The whole situation with you claiming your view on love and infatuation reigns supreme and if he doesn't agree he's just being insecure = you being arrogant/closed-minded.
Now, we all agree that he dropped the Mosby too early, but you really can't just dismiss his feelings because of what you think love and infatuation is. I'll even agree with you that in the mass majority of cases, you would be right, it's more often infatuation.
But really, how can you tell another guy what he is feeling at a single moment in time, especially when you know nothing about him and were not there with him? The way you push your case so hard on an issue that cannot be proven is arrogance. You may be trying to be realistic, but if you tell me there is never, in the history of the entire world and its infinite future, a case where someone can fall head over heels early on in a relationship or at first sight, I would have to say that you are not being realistic, but prejudiced against love.
A few years from now MOARpylons may look back on that moment and know what the feeling really was; whether it was infatuation, love, impulse, or a combination of such. For now, though, don't deny a man his feelings; the heart knows what it wants. Head over heels does not equal love. To most people, it means you are obsessed with the person. What I'm saying is that love is more than falling head over heels for someone. It's way past that. And from the story, you can get a clear sense of how he thinks and who he is. You can read the story and see his person in the story. So don't say that just because I'm not him or I wasn't there, doesn't mean I don't know exactly how he feels. I've had feelings like he has for Ashley with my current gf but I knew that it wasn't love. Not until much later. There's no such thing as love at first sight. Everything is physical. Love goes more than physical. Plus, you read what he says and he goes on saying how he was freaking out about certain things. Why would you tell a person you love them when you can't even wrap your head around their own problems? I'm no longer advising him and just responding to people's comments. At first I was advising, but now I'm just defending my points. That doesn't make me arrogant. Just because I'm stating an obvious truth and you are unable to grasp it doesn't make me arrogant. You are being arrogant by stating that I am arrogant, then going about saying how I am probably right, but that there is a sliver of chance that I am wrong. If I am arrogant, so are you. Because your position cannot be proven either. I'm not saying he can't be obsessed with her. All I told him was to get his feelings in check because infatuation is not the same as love and you shouldn't be going up to every girl you fall for and tell them that you love her on the second date because unlike him, most girls take love more seriously than a four letter word.
Do you not see what you are doing in your argument? You are pushing your own view on something as if it's the undeniable truth.
You do not see something wrong with that? I don't want to argue, I just really want you to glance over how you are approaching this. It's your opinion, but you are stating it as a fact.
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I really dont have time for this so i just banned him.
Thanks for sticking up for me at least a little to all of you who did. Means alot to me.
(Souma and Conversion)
Next chapters on the way. Expect something later tonight 
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Interesting story. I would love a better a pic than in the OP though.
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Wow can't believe someone would come into this thread trying to tell people how love works, honestly makes me wonder how we're all connected here on this SC site when it seems certain people just come here to push there morals and beliefs onto other people.
Nice read, at first I thought it was a fiction story it was so good ;o
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This is starting to turn into an American drama o_o
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