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FlashIsHigh
United States474 Posts
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
Hope GOM does make things better though. At least it shows people are watching, right? | ||
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Wallaaa
Canada8 Posts
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endGame
United States394 Posts
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FlashIsHigh
United States474 Posts
On February 24 2011 19:49 DivinO wrote: It's okay man. Technical malfunctions happen. Could be hardware failure, could be actual problems. Either way no need to be too hard on GOM. I know how you feel. It's 5:49 AM. I have a class in 3 hours. Hope GOM does make things better though. At least it shows people are watching, right? It shows people are TRYING to watch, Im just raging cuz the stream cut out in the middle of Jinros game and Ive spent 20 minutes trying to get it to work, and im pissed cuz its nearly 5 A.M. and ive been waiting all day for this match. IM just saying that Gom KNOWS theres a problem but have yet to fix it. How is it or 'esports' supposed to grow when u cant even watch the game do to a reoccuring problem? | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27130 Posts
For perspective, can you tell us how many nights it has worked well vs how many nights you haven't been able to watch? (be honest!) | ||
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KMARTRULES
Australia474 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Kleander
United States334 Posts
On February 24 2011 19:56 KMARTRULES wrote: My god might need to get the sand out of your vagina. Thats a weird thing for your god to do | ||
]343[
United States10328 Posts
On February 24 2011 19:49 Amestir wrote: I understand your rage, but saying GomTV sucks is a bit harsh. Think of everything they do for Esports. Yeah there stream has a habit of crashing, but it's not that bad. T_T? | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On February 24 2011 19:51 endGame wrote: Honestly you just sound entitled. You're lucky that there is a GSL that's readily available and free for you to watch. No one is obligated to give you a certain quality of service unless you're a paying customer. You don't outright deserve streams of these games just because they exist. GOM and Blizzard are spearheading the enterprise, an enterprise that I'm sure you enjoy. So instead of raging and complaining that the site is down you should be patient and grateful that Starcraft 2 is streamed for your enjoyment free of charge. I hate these kinds of posts, the fact that they're getting more common makes me think that in 10 years the only thing it will be acceptable to complain about is complainers. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
IMO, if you paid for the season ticket, then you have a right to rage (though you can always watch the games from VODs). However, if you're watching the free low-quality stream, then you just need to appreciate that GOM providing a free streaming service in the first place. | ||
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FlashIsHigh
United States474 Posts
On February 24 2011 19:54 Manifesto7 wrote: Sucks for tonight. For perspective, can you tell us how many nights it has worked well vs how many nights you haven't been able to watch? (be honest!) Ok I will be honest I will say that if GSL streams 5 nights a week, I get crashes at least 2 nights for at least 20-30 min each and sometimes I cant get the stream to work again. My problem tonight is that I really wanted to see Jinros games, and Ive been working evenings lately so I dont watch as much of the GSL as I did last year (which was every day) I understand that the streams work a lot more than it doesn't but all im saying is that the problem is there and happens often 2 out of 5 nights with a crash doesnt seem acceptable for a major tournament like this. | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
Honestly I've never had that much problems with GomTV and it gets better every season. | ||
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endGame
United States394 Posts
On February 24 2011 19:59 jalstar wrote: I hate these kinds of posts, the fact that they're getting more common makes me think that in 10 years the only thing it will be acceptable to complain about is complainers. If the complaint is well thought out then it would make more sense for the complaint to be engaged. But the OP is entirely composed of frustration. GOMTV doesn't want restreams and that is completely reasonable since they want to be able to better gauge their viewers. It is awesome that Starcraft 2 is being streamed and that powerful organizations like Blizzard, Intel and Pepsi are behind it. Dealing with traffic is part of the growth of eSports so its unreasonable for someone to expect GOMTV to be perfect every night and in every way in that regard. So, I think my post is fine. I'm not saying its not fine to complain about things but to rather bring actual arguments to the table if you actually want to be taken seriously. Edit: Also I realize this is a blog and is probably just for someone to vent, but venting to the public invokes public opinion from either side. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
ESPORTS?? ITS GROWING. AAAAAAAAAUGHUUGHGUGHUGH I CAN'T CONTAIN IT!! | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
I think they're doing a great job. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On February 24 2011 19:54 Manifesto7 wrote: Sucks for tonight. For perspective, can you tell us how many nights it has worked well vs how many nights you haven't been able to watch? (be honest!) It's generally 50:50 for me. The real issue here is that the big games bring more viewers which brings a lot more crashes. So the 50% the site crashes on are the important 50% to me. I paid for the sole purpose of having the HQ stream because I have a TV I connect my computer to so I actually notice a difference. Any time someone like Nada/Jinro/MKP/MC play you can almost expect the site will crash at least once that night, and because of Murphy it will always be during a pinnacle moment. | ||
MrHoon
10183 Posts
i know gomtv crashing does suck, but think of it this way, this is a sign of esports growing, something all of you cried for! | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On February 24 2011 20:16 MrHoon wrote: back in my day, we had to watch vods on a 320x240 SLIDESHOW to get some Korean League action i know gomtv crashing does suck, but think of it this way, this is a sign of esports growing, something all of you cried for! I for one was perfectly happy with it being a Niche thing. This way the games actually you know...stay good instead of going for dollar signs. | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On February 24 2011 20:21 Jayme wrote: I for one was perfectly happy with it being a Niche thing. This way the games actually you know...stay good instead of going for dollar signs. I'd say that dollar signs are probably a big part of the reason why there are pros and why they play such good games in Korea. SC1 and 2. | ||
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On February 24 2011 20:16 MrHoon wrote: back in my day, we had to watch vods on a 320x240 SLIDESHOW to get some Korean League action i know gomtv crashing does suck, but think of it this way, this is a sign of esports growing, something all of you cried for! back in the day when the only streams were VLC links from Corinthos, or ghetto straight MBC/OGN streams... i.e. I never got to watch anything live @_@ | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On February 24 2011 20:26 Zim23 wrote: I've watched just about every night of GSL since season 1 and this is the first time it crashed, and it came right back after I refreshed it. No complaints here. Oh man, you must have missed the night with the Jinro versus Idra bo5. That was some intense crashing. Too many foreigners wanted to see it. The stream crashed tonight but it was immediately after the results of Jinro's match were basically written in stone so it was fine. | ||
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Ulfsark
United States958 Posts
On February 24 2011 19:51 endGame wrote: Honestly you just sound entitled. You're lucky that there is a GSL that's readily available and free for you to watch. No one is obligated to give you a certain quality of service unless you're a paying customer. You don't outright deserve streams of these games just because they exist. GOM and Blizzard are spearheading the enterprise, an enterprise that I'm sure you enjoy. So instead of raging and complaining that the site is down you should be patient and grateful that Starcraft 2 is streamed for your enjoyment free of charge. I would say this about sums it up. | ||
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
GOM providing a free stream is not your right as an individual, you should be thankful that it exists. Hopefully the game expands, is embraced, lasts just like Brood War has, and changes the world into playing wargames instead of actually engaging in them.  | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
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hoob
Sweden69 Posts
Sure I could buy the vods but the thing is that I really dont think that sc2games are really worth it, not yet atleast. My opinion is that if they really wanna grow the audience they should allow restreams so that everyone can enjoy the games just like we do with the bwgames | ||
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m3rciless
United States1476 Posts
On February 24 2011 20:21 Jayme wrote: I for one was perfectly happy with it being a Niche thing. This way the games actually you know...stay good instead of going for dollar signs. lol u dum why would there be any correlation between $$ and bad games. Also, id point out that the reason why there is such an awesome BW scene in korea is because of big sponsorships, which dont come from having a niche thing. User was warned for this post | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
perfectly understandable OP 5/5 | ||
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
On February 24 2011 20:28 ]343[ wrote: back in the day when the only streams were VLC links from Corinthos, or ghetto straight MBC/OGN streams... i.e. I never got to watch anything live @_@ Yeah and a fucking TV ants stream from a chinese stupid site. When sc2.org died i almost cried  I remember trying to get daum player to work, it always fucking buffered each 5 seconds. Before livestreams were the shit watching streams were hell. | ||
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50bani
Romania480 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On February 24 2011 21:23 JoxxOr wrote: Yeah and a fucking TV ants stream from a chinese stupid site. When sc2.org died i almost cried I remember trying to get daum player to work, it always fucking buffered each 5 seconds. Before livestreams were the shit watching streams were hell. oh god Daum player. I got it to work a grand total of 2 times or so. -_____- thank God for the streamers nowadays :D | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On February 24 2011 20:28 ]343[ wrote: back in the day when the only streams were VLC links from Corinthos, or ghetto straight MBC/OGN streams... i.e. I never got to watch anything live @_@ Back in the day, the only way to get live English Starcraft commentary was to get on ventrilo with Klazart and spend half your time trying to sync your constantly rebuffering stream to his. | ||
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
On February 24 2011 20:00 FlashIsHigh wrote: Ok I will be honest I will say that if GSL streams 5 nights a week, I get crashes at least 2 nights for at least 20-30 min each and sometimes I cant get the stream to work again. My problem tonight is that I really wanted to see Jinros games, and Ive been working evenings lately so I dont watch as much of the GSL as I did last year (which was every day) I understand that the streams work a lot more than it doesn't but all im saying is that the problem is there and happens often 2 out of 5 nights with a crash doesnt seem acceptable for a major tournament like this. If you have this much trouble the problem is most likely on your end in some way, not GOMTV's, as it's not the norm in any way. A blanket statement like GOMTV sucks, as a result of your troubles, is childish. | ||
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curreh
Australia265 Posts
On February 24 2011 20:09 heyoka wrote: ESPORTS?? ITS GROWING. AAAAAAAAAUGHUUGHGUGHUGH I CAN'T CONTAIN IT!! ahaha is that a reference from akira? :D I think tetsuo words it differently, it must of just reminded me because I watched that brilliant movie again today : ) On topic though lol, I love Gomtv, I thoroughly enjoy watching the gsl : ) there are hiccups every now and then but they always fix it, thanks gom! | ||
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lurked
Canada918 Posts
Yes, I watched almost all the games with Jinro, IdrA, MC, MVP, and I have no problems with the stream at all. Of course the site can be slow from times to times, but the stream itself? Never. So I personally think that for a FREE service, GOM is doing an awesome job on the stability of the stream. And a free stream, for 100% of both the Code A and Code S games, crashing from time to time for some people means GOM sucks? Can you please go yell at ESPN and NHL that they suck, so they put up FREE streams of ALL NHL games? Even though they crash once in a while, I'll be glad to watch them on there. Because you know, companies who suck and don't care about their viewers obviously set up free worldwide streams for all their content... In case you wondered, no I don't have a season ticket, I watch the free stream, and it still works well. + Show Spoiler + WAHHH WAHHH MOMMY I WANT SOME CANDIES!! Ok son, here are some free candies, enjoy! NOOO!! THOSE CANDIES ARE TOO HARD! I WANT GUMMY BEARS! YOU SUCK MOM! I HATE YOU! | ||
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands4735 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On February 24 2011 22:43 s.Q.uelched wrote: Title change, please? It's not appropriate imho. Agreed, title hurts esports. It's like someone coming along and giving esports a charlie horse for no reason. | ||
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NEWater
Singapore178 Posts
I think that would benefit both paying customers when the bandwidth load is eased off the site (no more crashes!), and free users, for the free users will end up using someone else's (Youtube's) bandwidth since they aren't contributing to revenue anyhow, and they could throw down banners every 5-10 minutes telling Youtube's free viewers that much better streams and quality can be had for paying viewers. | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
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ignatiusJ
United States4 Posts
The GomLab tells me to click the button that says: Find Codec Problem is, that button does not exist. My error message says 'Confirm that you are running the correct codec.' WTF? Help? I really want to watch Code S. I've searched for a solution for an hour. Now I turn to you guys... Sorry if this has already been addressed. | ||
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ignatiusJ
United States4 Posts
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ignatiusJ
United States4 Posts
I can only watch for 15 seconds at a time. Then I have to close and reopen. FML. | ||
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ignatiusJ
United States4 Posts
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BlueBulb
Singapore13 Posts
but I never got to watch anything live hang & crushes. my internet is working fine. thumbs down to gomtv. | ||
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SushilS
2115 Posts
I think we all need to learn how to count our blessings every once in a while... | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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FlashIsHigh
United States474 Posts
On February 26 2011 22:07 SushilS wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=196494 I think we all need to learn how to count our blessings every once in a while... Lol count our blessings? Wtf, is GOM Santa Claus now? Streaming SC2 out of the good of their heart? Its a business yo, not a charity. | ||
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Garrl
Scotland1971 Posts
On February 24 2011 19:49 Amestir wrote: I understand your rage, but saying GomTV sucks is a bit harsh. Think of everything they do for Esports. Yeah their stream has a habit of crashing, but it's not that bad. what, like sueing the two largest esports companies? | ||
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youRFate
Germany1 Post
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IamBach
United States1059 Posts
On February 24 2011 19:49 Amestir wrote: I understand your rage, but saying GomTV sucks is a bit harsh. Think of everything they do for Esports. Yeah their stream has a habit of crashing, but it's not that bad. Yeah like this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=199701 | ||
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R A V
United States217 Posts
I don't know why but your post made me laugh really hard D: On topic: I think GOM is doing a good job for esports, and I actually don't have the site/stream crash on me at all. :o | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
On February 24 2011 20:02 Turgid wrote: Gom does some stuff wrong but man they kinda bust their asses for us. It seems that you get more crashes than most people; everyone crashed tonight but I can't remember crashing on other nights this season so far. Ya know, I've watched BroodWar for years and there's never been a problem. Saying GOM is busting their asses doesn't make them competent. Legit companies have their shit together and don't constantly rely on their paying viewership to forgive failures in an industry that is mapped out and has precedents of companies who've made it work. Asking for forgiveness when you have a long history of doing things right is okay. That's like when Flash v Jaedong finals had a blackout. Asking for forgiveness a couple times a week just makes it sound like you're doing a crap job. edit: my point being GOM aren't exactly pioneers here. There's companies that have been doing this right for a really long time. | ||
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[Silverflame]
Germany640 Posts
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
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tirentu
Canada1257 Posts
Seriously, complain about lack of LAN, not GOM's occasionally unreliable stream. | ||
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eecs4ever
United States106 Posts
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Kahuna.
Canada196 Posts
On July 30 2011 16:39 eecs4ever wrote: July 2011, GSL FINALS, Gom TV no work Same here... I'm so sad... especially since I'm a paying customer. This is disappointing. | ||
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