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dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 22:00:51
February 19 2011 21:22 GMT
#1
Just a quick question. I was reading this

And I was wondering what the consensus was for best players of 2008?
Here's the breakdown from the old thread.
2000 - (P)Grrrr...
2001 - (T)BoxeR
2002 - (T)NaDa
2003 - (T)NaDa
2004 - (T)iloveoov
2005 - (T)iloveoov
2006 - (Z)sAviOr
2007 - ?
2008 - ??????????
2009 - (Z)Jaedong
2010 - (T)Flash

*****
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 19 2011 21:23 GMT
#2
09 = Jaedong
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 21:30:27
February 19 2011 21:25 GMT
#3
EDIT: nvm
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 19 2011 21:31 GMT
#4
Jaedong for 2009, I think. Dunno who to place at 2008. Bisu? JD? Flash? Dunno. =/
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 19 2011 21:33 GMT
#5
On February 20 2011 06:31 Holgerius wrote:
Jaedong for 2009, I think. Dunno who to place at 2008. Bisu? JD? Flash? Dunno. =/

Fantasy? Stork? :l it was a fun year lol
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
February 19 2011 21:34 GMT
#6
Wasn't 2 years of Savior or at least one year of Bisu?
Bisu must have had a year between Jaedong/Flash when he was the Savior killer
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 19 2011 21:41 GMT
#7
On February 20 2011 06:33 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2011 06:31 Holgerius wrote:
Jaedong for 2009, I think. Dunno who to place at 2008. Bisu? JD? Flash? Dunno. =/

Fantasy? Stork? :l it was a fun year lol

Fantasy, no. Compare his 0 titles and a slightly above average winrate to Flash winning a title by beating JD, Bisu and Stork (fuck fuck fuck, that Starleague run is so ridiculous) and keeping a sick winrate throughout the year. But indeed, the scene was very fun back then. I remember thinking Stork was unbeatable for a while (when he won his Starleague title) and then all of a sudden Bisu went on a sick tear causing people to make Bonjwa-threads about it.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
February 19 2011 21:48 GMT
#8
On February 20 2011 06:41 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2011 06:33 Kenpachi wrote:
On February 20 2011 06:31 Holgerius wrote:
Jaedong for 2009, I think. Dunno who to place at 2008. Bisu? JD? Flash? Dunno. =/

Fantasy? Stork? :l it was a fun year lol

Fantasy, no. Compare his 0 titles and a slightly above average winrate to Flash winning a title by beating JD, Bisu and Stork (fuck fuck fuck, that Starleague run is so ridiculous) and keeping a sick winrate throughout the year. But indeed, the scene was very fun back then. I remember thinking Stork was unbeatable for a while (when he won his Starleague title) and then all of a sudden Bisu went on a sick tear causing people to make Bonjwa-threads about it.

Wasn't Bisu in a huge slump until the later half of 2008?
Here are the starleague winners for 2008 (Interesting year indeed)
- (Z)Jaedong GOMTV MSL Season 4
- (T)fOrGG Arena MSL
- (P)Bisu ClubDay MSL

- (T)Flash Bacchus OSL
- (Z)July EVER OSL
- (P)Stork Incruit OSL

We had SIX unique starleague winners in 2008 with 2 from each races as opposed to Flash/JD winning everything in 2010.

disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
February 19 2011 21:50 GMT
#9
On February 20 2011 06:34 MYM.Testie wrote:
Wasn't 2 years of Savior or at least one year of Bisu?
Bisu must have had a year between Jaedong/Flash when he was the Savior killer


Jaedong's royal road apparently >>> Bisu's 2 MSL titles, 1 MSL silver and 1 OSL bronze ...
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 21:56:37
February 19 2011 21:54 GMT
#10
Teh updated OP with JD at 09 and ? at 07 makes more sense.

Put Bisu at 07 and then a huge fucking ????????????? at 08.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
February 19 2011 21:57 GMT
#11
On February 20 2011 06:48 dani_caliKorea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2011 06:41 Holgerius wrote:
On February 20 2011 06:33 Kenpachi wrote:
On February 20 2011 06:31 Holgerius wrote:
Jaedong for 2009, I think. Dunno who to place at 2008. Bisu? JD? Flash? Dunno. =/

Fantasy? Stork? :l it was a fun year lol

Fantasy, no. Compare his 0 titles and a slightly above average winrate to Flash winning a title by beating JD, Bisu and Stork (fuck fuck fuck, that Starleague run is so ridiculous) and keeping a sick winrate throughout the year. But indeed, the scene was very fun back then. I remember thinking Stork was unbeatable for a while (when he won his Starleague title) and then all of a sudden Bisu went on a sick tear causing people to make Bonjwa-threads about it.

Wasn't Bisu in a huge slump until the later half of 2008?
Here are the starleague winners for 2008 (Interesting year indeed)
- (Z)Jaedong GOMTV MSL Season 4
- (T)fOrGG Arena MSL
- (P)Bisu ClubDay MSL

- (T)Flash Bacchus OSL
- (Z)July EVER OSL
- (P)Stork Incruit OSL

We had SIX unique starleague winners in 2008 with 2 from each races as opposed to Flash/JD winning everything in 2010.



THIS is really funny. it's so unlike this now! wow lol
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
Boky
Profile Joined December 2010
7 Posts
February 19 2011 22:01 GMT
#12
On February 20 2011 06:54 Holgerius wrote:
Teh updated OP with JD at 09 and ? at 07 makes more sense.

Put Bisu at 07 and then a huge fucking ????????????? at 08.

Jaedong won the actual player of the year award in 2007 and 2009.
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
February 19 2011 22:02 GMT
#13
On February 20 2011 07:01 Boky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2011 06:54 Holgerius wrote:
Teh updated OP with JD at 09 and ? at 07 makes more sense.

Put Bisu at 07 and then a huge fucking ????????????? at 08.

Jaedong won the actual player of the year award in 2007 and 2009.

What happened to the 2008 award?
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 19 2011 22:06 GMT
#14
Bisu for 2007, Jaedong or Stork for 2008. (no one won more than one league, but Jaedong and Stork at least had 1 gold 1 silver)
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
February 19 2011 22:10 GMT
#15
2008 was Jaedong, he won twice in a row (2008 and 2009).
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 22:16:17
February 19 2011 22:13 GMT
#16
2007 Bisu was the best player... two MSL golds, a MSL silver, and an OSL bronze (back when they had a third place match for seeding).

Jaedong won an OSL but his ZvP was incredibly shaky until he beat Stork in that final, and it wasn't entirely clear his ZvP had gotten better (given the way he won those games) until he started ripping every Protoss to shreds after the fact. In fact, he had lost to The Rock in the OSC tourney for the 4th seed. He was an absolute monster in ZvT though.

Bisu kind of sucked in proleague back then which is why his win % in that year wasn't the best.
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 22:16:51
February 19 2011 22:16 GMT
#17
Has Jaedong ever slumped as bad Bisu?
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
February 19 2011 22:26 GMT
#18
Not that I can remember. :>
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 22:37:14
February 19 2011 22:28 GMT
#19
I just skimmed everyones match list so probably missed something

Records for comparison

2007

Jaedong 57-31 (64.77%)
osl gold
seoul esports festival gold
solid pl performance (hwaseung won pl)

Bisu 63-41 (60.58%)
2x msl gold
1x msl silver
1x osl bronze

Savior 59-41 (59.00%)
osl gold
msl silver
wcg korea bronze
msl 3/4th place

Stork 98-43 (69.50%)
osl silver
osl bronze
msl silver
msl 3/4 place
wcg korea silver
seoul esports festival silver
pl silver
strong pl performance (samsung silver)
(lolol)



2008

Jaedong 101-45 (69.18%)
msl gold
msl silver
wcg korea gold
gom gold

Flash 94-43 (69.12%)
osl gold
gom silver
msl 3/4
strong pl record (no medal)

Bisu 59-35 (62.77%)
msl gold
osl 3/4 (no bronze match played)
gom gold (finals played in feb 2009 though)

Stork 72-41 (63.72%)
osl gold
osl silver
wcg silver
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 19 2011 22:40 GMT
#20
2005 should be ? as well, there's a case for oov, Nada, and July.
Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
February 19 2011 23:28 GMT
#21
On February 20 2011 06:48 dani_caliKorea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2011 06:41 Holgerius wrote:
On February 20 2011 06:33 Kenpachi wrote:
On February 20 2011 06:31 Holgerius wrote:
Jaedong for 2009, I think. Dunno who to place at 2008. Bisu? JD? Flash? Dunno. =/

Fantasy? Stork? :l it was a fun year lol

Fantasy, no. Compare his 0 titles and a slightly above average winrate to Flash winning a title by beating JD, Bisu and Stork (fuck fuck fuck, that Starleague run is so ridiculous) and keeping a sick winrate throughout the year. But indeed, the scene was very fun back then. I remember thinking Stork was unbeatable for a while (when he won his Starleague title) and then all of a sudden Bisu went on a sick tear causing people to make Bonjwa-threads about it.

Wasn't Bisu in a huge slump until the later half of 2008?
Here are the starleague winners for 2008 (Interesting year indeed)
- (Z)Jaedong GOMTV MSL Season 4
- (T)fOrGG Arena MSL
- (P)Bisu ClubDay MSL

- (T)Flash Bacchus OSL
- (Z)July EVER OSL
- (P)Stork Incruit OSL

We had SIX unique starleague winners in 2008 with 2 from each races as opposed to Flash/JD winning everything in 2010.


This actually makes me very sad for BeSt.
wat.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10218 Posts
February 20 2011 00:00 GMT
#22
07=bisu. seriously, he put savior in a slump... also picking up some MSL's... 08... err... id say JD... but FlaSh i think pulled out a huge ass breakout year. also, other players played their part... just put that down as N/A since no1 was really an X factor that year.
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FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
February 20 2011 00:28 GMT
#23
Bisu was failing in proleagues during 07 though. Purely winrate its Stork for 07 but people discredit silvers too much
All walls are great if the roof doesn't fall
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
February 20 2011 01:29 GMT
#24
Was Jaedong seriously best player of 07? That sounds a bit fishy considering how much Bisu accomplished that year :\
Writerptrk
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
February 20 2011 13:48 GMT
#25
2006... damn you savior

+ 06-11-02 Pringles-2 MSL (Badlands) Arcadia 2 (Z)sAviOr Loss
+ 06-11-02 Pringles-2 MSL (Space Platform) Blitz (Z)sAviOr Loss
+ 06-11-02 Pringles-2 MSL (Jungle World) Longinus (Z)sAviOr Loss

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