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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 21:24:32
September 03 2010 20:16 GMT
#121
Of course I wouldn't. I wouldn't hit her back, but I wouldn't hit a man back either. I'd try to block it and get out.

If I was in a situation where I felt I needed to hit somebody their sex isn't really important to me. I don't think that would ever happen though, I can't think of a single conflict I'd resolve through violence short of being robbed or beaten severely. I've been bullied about quite a bit in my life and I've never hit someone back, I've never needed to.
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Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
September 03 2010 20:20 GMT
#122
well where im from hitting a woman, no matter the reason, even if she hit you first, is a good way to get your teeth kicked in. we dont care the reason, its inexcusable around here.

that's how i was raised and that's how i would handle it too. you dont hit women, and people who do get beat.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 20:21:48
September 03 2010 20:20 GMT
#123
The old man toppling over the chairs was completely the fault of the old man. What a goddamned idiot.
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
September 03 2010 20:22 GMT
#124
If I feel that my well-being is in danger, I wouldn't just "hit back," but that's not saying much because I'm small, and fighting is hard when you are small.

My reasoning is simple; I value my own life more than that of whoever is trying to harm me.
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
September 03 2010 20:24 GMT
#125
not this again!
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Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
September 03 2010 20:24 GMT
#126
On September 04 2010 05:16 ]Grey[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:07 Djin)ftw( wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:30 Gecko wrote:
http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/09/post-758.html.php

apparently nobody was arrested or seriously hurt, all of them are still guilty of stupidity though.


"According to the New York Post, the brawl stemmed from an issue over vocabulary. "He said, 'You've got a problem? Go ahead and hit me,' and she slapped him across the face," a source told the Post."

ahaha rofl. So she slaps him cause he wants to be slapped. But oh yeah she is the mean ugly bitch who probably beats her kids at home as well xD

guy seems to be a moron, getting in an argument and even a fight with an old couple instead of watching the game. his companion who just sits there quietly is the real hero

and of course mc blue shirt and his side kick who bravely enter the scene to defend the poor woman


"It was wasn't my fault, your honour. You see, the victim told me to stab him in the chest if I had a problem with his attitude, so I did."

Seriously, I don't think anyone should be starting a fight, ever. But if a guy gets assaulted by a girl, why the fuck shouldn't he fight back? Can someone give me a reason? Like a real reason? Other than, "Well, dur, she's a girl."

If you don't want to get in a fight because you're a frail old woman, you shouldn't go assaulting people.


Can YOU give me a reason why you'd hit someone? So if your gf slaps you for being a douche, you're just gonna go all out and break her in half? It was wrong? Yes. But I don't see a reason to respond with violence, unless she's really trying to hurt you for real. The guy literally asked for that slap. Can you give me a reason why you'd fight back? Can you explain me how this is better than backing off and calling security? I seriously don't understand.
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Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
September 03 2010 20:27 GMT
#127
lol, do you think the guy even felt that at all?

there's no reason to "teach her a lesson" when more than likely you aren't even phased by the hit and you could probably beat the girl up while sleepwalking. (don't mean to be sexist, but this is true in 99% of cases)
underscore
Profile Joined August 2009
252 Posts
September 03 2010 20:28 GMT
#128
Those fat chicks can really get violent so I wouldn't rule out the possibilty of hitting one but not in front of people because of mob mentality. I got slapped by women but I totally deserved it and they were hot so it's kinda a turn on.
Some fat chick once was pretty rude to a friend of mine for no reason. He just spit straight in her face and kept on walking. Handled it like a pro haha.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
September 03 2010 20:30 GMT
#129
Okay kids who have never experienced real life, sit down, gather round.

On paper, in the safety of your house, yes, I agree you think you would be able to resolve a dispute through words. However, experience shows that when someone is talking huge amounts of shit to you and then suddenly places their hands on you, you may not be able to control the urge to strike back. It's basically just one of those things you need to experience. Sometimes it's just too much and you can't control yourself.
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Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
September 03 2010 20:31 GMT
#130
Randomly beating a woman because shes annoying or just there and you want to let off some steam. Definately unacceptable and untolerable, I'll kick your ass myself for that and Im as much of a pacifist as I can be.

Responding in "kind" to being slapped or punched first? Well then I unfortunately gotta drop my pacifist beliefs and get down to business.

Anyone regardless of any attribute we can use to "classify" ourselves as humans has no right ever to randomly start shit physically.(And to all you people saying but why can't i defend myself? Well if everyone followed the rule to begin with, you wouldn't have too, remember defensive is reactive, offensive is active.)
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EoR
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland127 Posts
September 03 2010 20:32 GMT
#131
On September 04 2010 05:24 Fumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:16 ]Grey[ wrote:
On September 04 2010 05:07 Djin)ftw( wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:30 Gecko wrote:
http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/09/post-758.html.php

apparently nobody was arrested or seriously hurt, all of them are still guilty of stupidity though.


"According to the New York Post, the brawl stemmed from an issue over vocabulary. "He said, 'You've got a problem? Go ahead and hit me,' and she slapped him across the face," a source told the Post."

ahaha rofl. So she slaps him cause he wants to be slapped. But oh yeah she is the mean ugly bitch who probably beats her kids at home as well xD

guy seems to be a moron, getting in an argument and even a fight with an old couple instead of watching the game. his companion who just sits there quietly is the real hero

and of course mc blue shirt and his side kick who bravely enter the scene to defend the poor woman


"It was wasn't my fault, your honour. You see, the victim told me to stab him in the chest if I had a problem with his attitude, so I did."

Seriously, I don't think anyone should be starting a fight, ever. But if a guy gets assaulted by a girl, why the fuck shouldn't he fight back? Can someone give me a reason? Like a real reason? Other than, "Well, dur, she's a girl."

If you don't want to get in a fight because you're a frail old woman, you shouldn't go assaulting people.


Can YOU give me a reason why you'd hit someone? So if your gf slaps you for being a douche, you're just gonna go all out and break her in half? It was wrong? Yes. But I don't see a reason to respond with violence, unless she's really trying to hurt you for real. The guy literally asked for that slap. Can you give me a reason why you'd fight back? Can you explain me how this is better than backing off and calling security? I seriously don't understand.


I worded my original post weirdly, I apologise. I don't think people should be fighting. Period. There's never any excuse to start violence, regardless of if it's a slap or a punch. However, if someone does start a conflict they should expect retaliation. Regardless of their gender, size or age.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
September 03 2010 20:34 GMT
#132
Gender equality goes both ways imo. So meh, if I got really punched or something the response would be the same for me whether they dangle or not.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
September 03 2010 20:40 GMT
#133
Some people dont seem to understand a basic rule in problems like these.

Dont try to embarass someone in public, if you do it could be bad for everyone involved. You dont try to hurt someones pride infront of people and not expect to get into a fight. Thats how almost ALL fights start. You cant just calmly walk away. Its the heat of the moment. To top it off, if someone hits YOU first? You absolutely have to deck them.
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Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
September 03 2010 20:42 GMT
#134
On September 04 2010 05:34 Taku wrote:
Gender equality goes both ways imo. So meh, if I got really punched or something the response would be the same for me whether they dangle or not.

It shouldn't be "if she hits me, I hit her back". It should be "no one should hit for stupid shit, I'm calling security, be it a man or a woman".

On September 04 2010 05:30 Chill wrote:
Okay kids who have never experienced real life, sit down, gather round.

On paper, in the safety of your house, yes, I agree you think you would be able to resolve a dispute through words. However, experience shows that when someone is talking huge amounts of shit to you and then suddenly places their hands on you, you may not be able to control the urge to strike back. It's basically just one of those things you need to experience. Sometimes it's just too much and you can't control yourself.

Do you really have to come off as the elderly wizard who knows it all in 90% of your posts?

Maybe you lose your head easily and goes berserk on people in the middle of a discussion, but I'm sorry, I know plenty of people who can hold themselves pretty well. In fact, that's what the guy in this video did. His mistake was being a douche and wanting to take the discussion further. The moment he was slapped, he should have called security. Period.

And even though it's understandable that some people lose their heads in the heat of an argument, you can't possibly think that this is the _right_ thing to do.
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Dance.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 20:50:49
September 03 2010 20:42 GMT
#135
Is this video taken out of context? Why is the guy, who is being hit being thrown out?

EDIT: I wouldnt have hit the lady, but if that fucking old guy came at me, i wouldnt hold back
It is what it is...
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 20:46:13
September 03 2010 20:45 GMT
#136
On September 04 2010 05:42 Fumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:34 Taku wrote:
Gender equality goes both ways imo. So meh, if I got really punched or something the response would be the same for me whether they dangle or not.

It shouldn't be "if she hits me, I hit her back". It should be "no one should hit for stupid shit, I'm calling security, be it a man or a woman".

Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:30 Chill wrote:
Okay kids who have never experienced real life, sit down, gather round.

On paper, in the safety of your house, yes, I agree you think you would be able to resolve a dispute through words. However, experience shows that when someone is talking huge amounts of shit to you and then suddenly places their hands on you, you may not be able to control the urge to strike back. It's basically just one of those things you need to experience. Sometimes it's just too much and you can't control yourself.

Do you really have to come off as the elderly wizard who knows it all in 90% of your posts?

Maybe you lose your head easily and goes berserk on people in the middle of a discussion, but I'm sorry, I know plenty of people who can hold themselves pretty well. In fact, that's what the guy in this video did. His mistake was being a douche and wanting to take the discussion further. The moment he was slapped, he should have called security. Period.

And even though it's understandable that some people lose their heads in the heat of an argument, you can't possibly think that this is the _right_ thing to do.


Did you even read Chill's post?
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plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 20:54:53
September 03 2010 20:51 GMT
#137
On one side, my instinct tells me yes, I would hit her - being a feminist and for equal rights, I'd be a male chauvinistic piece of shit if I didn't; I mean, not hitting her because she's a woman would be implying that I think that she's (and in extention, all women) not intelligent enough to see the consequences of her own actions, thus having to be treated with the patience and care of a parent to a child rather than that of two equals.

At the same time though, imprinted male virtue from a time of gender division tells me to never hit a member of the weaker sex. These are also the virtues that would make me expect getting my ass kicked relentlessly by anyone around, no matter the situation.

With that in mind, I have before and in this situation definately would have forcefully supressed her - grabbing her arms, holding her in place or getting her down on the floor.

Aside from that though, the old guy and the chick definately are the physical initiatiors, but the guy wasn't exactly trying to solve the situation easy either. All three are stupid, but if anyone's to get reprecussions from this, it should be the two that initiated physical violence, not the guy utilizing the english language.
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Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
September 03 2010 20:55 GMT
#138
On September 04 2010 05:42 Fumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:34 Taku wrote:
Gender equality goes both ways imo. So meh, if I got really punched or something the response would be the same for me whether they dangle or not.

It shouldn't be "if she hits me, I hit her back". It should be "no one should hit for stupid shit, I'm calling security, be it a man or a woman".

Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:30 Chill wrote:
Okay kids who have never experienced real life, sit down, gather round.

On paper, in the safety of your house, yes, I agree you think you would be able to resolve a dispute through words. However, experience shows that when someone is talking huge amounts of shit to you and then suddenly places their hands on you, you may not be able to control the urge to strike back. It's basically just one of those things you need to experience. Sometimes it's just too much and you can't control yourself.

Do you really have to come off as the elderly wizard who knows it all in 90% of your posts?

Maybe you lose your head easily and goes berserk on people in the middle of a discussion, but I'm sorry, I know plenty of people who can hold themselves pretty well. In fact, that's what the guy in this video did. His mistake was being a douche and wanting to take the discussion further. The moment he was slapped, he should have called security. Period.

And even though it's understandable that some people lose their heads in the heat of an argument, you can't possibly think that this is the _right_ thing to do.
although i do agree that chill comes off as smug in some of his posts, i agree with him on this matter. if someone is talking shit in your face and then suddenly hits you, you just don't back down and call someone to help you out. looking back on it, it "may" be the right thing to do to avoid further conflict, but at that point he wasn't trying to avoid conflict he was defending his pride. i know when i'm in the heat of the moment, i really don't care what the right thing to do is, only what i want to do at that moment.
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
September 03 2010 21:06 GMT
#139
On September 04 2010 05:55 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:42 Fumi wrote:
On September 04 2010 05:34 Taku wrote:
Gender equality goes both ways imo. So meh, if I got really punched or something the response would be the same for me whether they dangle or not.

It shouldn't be "if she hits me, I hit her back". It should be "no one should hit for stupid shit, I'm calling security, be it a man or a woman".

On September 04 2010 05:30 Chill wrote:
Okay kids who have never experienced real life, sit down, gather round.

On paper, in the safety of your house, yes, I agree you think you would be able to resolve a dispute through words. However, experience shows that when someone is talking huge amounts of shit to you and then suddenly places their hands on you, you may not be able to control the urge to strike back. It's basically just one of those things you need to experience. Sometimes it's just too much and you can't control yourself.

Do you really have to come off as the elderly wizard who knows it all in 90% of your posts?

Maybe you lose your head easily and goes berserk on people in the middle of a discussion, but I'm sorry, I know plenty of people who can hold themselves pretty well. In fact, that's what the guy in this video did. His mistake was being a douche and wanting to take the discussion further. The moment he was slapped, he should have called security. Period.

And even though it's understandable that some people lose their heads in the heat of an argument, you can't possibly think that this is the _right_ thing to do.
although i do agree that chill comes off as smug in some of his posts, i agree with him on this matter. if someone is talking shit in your face and then suddenly hits you, you just don't back down and call someone to help you out. looking back on it, it "may" be the right thing to do to avoid further conflict, but at that point he wasn't trying to avoid conflict he was defending his pride. i know when i'm in the heat of the moment, i really don't care what the right thing to do is, only what i want to do at that moment.

Yeah, like I said, some people are like that. And it's understandable. But you can't possibly think that going berserk and starting a fight is the right thing to do. If you go out of control in that situation, don't you wish you could actually be calm and just go report those two to the security?

I just brought this up because a lot of people seem to be proud to be violent.
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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 21:17:49
September 03 2010 21:11 GMT
#140
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