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I was looking forward to SC2 so much, thinking it would be something that would happily co-exist with BW, but noooooooooo. They had to be greedy fucking assholes. I'm totally boycotting Blizzard/Gretech. Do you REALLY want e-Sports? - Page 2
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
I was looking forward to SC2 so much, thinking it would be something that would happily co-exist with BW, but noooooooooo. They had to be greedy fucking assholes. I'm totally boycotting Blizzard/Gretech. | ||
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leomon
Canada169 Posts
On September 03 2010 08:04 fabiano wrote: Are you serious? If SC2 doesnt get big in Korea, the game will die. Do you think any other country in the world gives a shit about e-sports? Personally, I will only accept SC2 as BW successor if the Koreans start dominating it and a pro scene is created over there. If that doesnt happen, I feel like SC2 is lacking something. This. Blizzard is trying too hard with Korea, but not neccessarily doing the correct things. Despite kespa's past history of treating players and what not, they always have the fans in mind. Blizzard on the other hand, seems like they don't care for the fans one bit at all. If SC2 wants to succeed as an esport, blizzard better step it up, especially in korea, where things are in shambles. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On September 03 2010 08:00 Plexa wrote: The thing which annoys me more than anything else is that SC2 is such an amazing game that if they had just gone for a hands off approach then SC2 would have thrived and developed EXACTLY like they are trying to force it to right now. Yeah the game itself is the shit but everything around it sucks balls. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On September 03 2010 08:07 imbecile wrote: They will fix it all by putting a lot of money into price pools. Prize pool won't get them fans. Prize pool won't get them actual progaming teams anywhere near the same level, since individual leagues only cater to the top few % of people, and the rest get eliminated in prelims/ro32. At best you'll get a few guys in a clan with a sponsor and try their luck month after month. Prize pool won't get them sponsor recognition after they go around pissing on some of the biggest potential sponsors in Korea and destroying the natural order of things. Hell, prize pool won't even bring the loved BW icons to SC2 (which is how you would want to phase SC2 in to begin with). | ||
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NeoOmega
United States495 Posts
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supernovamaniac
United States3048 Posts
On September 03 2010 07:58 Sinensis wrote: This blog is about Korean Starleagues. If you've found this page by accident, you can try using your browser's "Back" button. I'm always happy so see what our translators think. Good rant, although very depressing subject matter. "At least the leagues will run until this is settled in court" is the best news anywhere in sight, at least that I've been able to find. Dark times. IMO people at TL who knows about the Korean sources and spends time reading them find themselves not only educated about the Korean scene, but also the users' comments. Example: Fuck SC1 and KeSPA, it's time for Gretech to shine LOL AT KeSPA GETTING OWNED BY GRETECH AND BLIZZARD I honestly want SC1 to live, but not KeSPA | ||
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BlindPhaydo
United States33 Posts
I think this situation also shows how power corrupts. Back when Gretech was the underdog and the little guy, they put out a great product and tried to work together with Kespa (only to get shot down). Now that Gretech is in control, they're showing their true colors (threatening to end MSL and PL, charging outrageous fees, shutting down alternate streaming and forcing everyone to watch through GomPlayer) and it turns out they're worse than Kespa ever was. | ||
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ShivaN
United States933 Posts
On September 03 2010 08:00 Plexa wrote: The thing which annoys me more than anything else is that SC2 is such an amazing game that if they had just gone for a hands off approach then SC2 would have thrived and developed EXACTLY like they are trying to force it to right now. The problem for Blizzard is that's not soon enough for them. They want instant results as soon as the game's released. They can't be bothered with waiting a few years for the SC2 scene to develop and really get into a groove itself. So instead they've just been trying to man-handle it into the eSports scene. I've really lost a lot of respect for all the companies involved (Blizzard, KeSPA, Gretech) over the last few months. None of them are doing this for the fans, or in my eyes, even partially for the fans. It's really quite disheartening watching this great thing that I've derived so many hours of joy from watching and experiencing could come all crumbling down because of greed basically. Dark times for eSports indeed. | ||
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gyth
657 Posts
Who would want to sponsor the next Proleague, when there's a chance of it getting shut down? How awesome would it be if they got the biggest law firm in Korea as the next PL sponsor. ^_^ | ||
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SONE
Canada839 Posts
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gyth
657 Posts
If SC2 doesnt get big in Korea, the game will die. Do you think any other country in the world gives a shit about e-sports? I think this is a very defeatist attitude. Raleigh and others have shown that the world is open to e-sports. Korea taking a backseat on SC2 would be a good thing for international e-sports IMO. Looking at just Seoul is short-sighted, THE WORLD IS READY! | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On September 03 2010 07:35 thedeadhaji wrote: so they're more focused on getting black in short term. How dare you | ||
swanized
Canada2480 Posts
On September 03 2010 08:32 gyth wrote: I think this is a very defeatist attitude. Raleigh and others have shown that the world is open to e-sports. Korea taking a backseat on SC2 would be a good thing for international e-sports IMO. Looking at just Seoul is short-sighted, THE WORLD IS READY! ehh not really? raleigh was a nice event and all but in the grand scheme of things worldwide E-Sports need korea to be able to strive PL grand finals : 30 000 people (2nd worst showing in history) Raleigh: a good bunch of thousands less with a lot not even being SC2 fans | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3048 Posts
On September 03 2010 08:32 gyth wrote: I think this is a very defeatist attitude. Raleigh and others have shown that the world is open to e-sports. With less intense actions and overall disappointing games. Korea taking a backseat on SC2 would be a good thing for international e-sports IMO Because the whole SC scene in Korea is not huge afaik. Looking at just Seoul is short-sighted, THE WORLD IS READY! World isn't ready. ESL was okay, MLG was just stupid on how things were run and the games itself. Will it get larger? Hopefully. Will SC / SC2 scene around the world become as big as / bigger than Korea? At this rate, No. | ||
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imbecile
563 Posts
On September 03 2010 08:12 moopie wrote: Prize pool won't get them fans. Prize pool won't get them actual progaming teams anywhere near the same level, since individual leagues only cater to the top few % of people, and the rest get eliminated in prelims/ro32. At best you'll get a few guys in a clan with a sponsor and try their luck month after month. Prize pool won't get them sponsor recognition after they go around pissing on some of the biggest potential sponsors in Korea and destroying the natural order of things. Hell, prize pool won't even bring the loved BW icons to SC2 (which is how you would want to phase SC2 in to begin with). Hey, should have used sarcasm tags. | ||
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cornwell1961
Afghanistan56 Posts
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
and btw, I found typos. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
But yeah this is the problem. I as a spectator don't give a shit if it's a 2000$ or a 150.000$ prize pool. They'll have the same players participating, they'll try just as hard. Having regular salaries and a teamleague would be much better for SCII as an ESPORT but Blizzard doesn't understand. They never do. | ||
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shadesofkarma
Romania708 Posts
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Zaphid
Czech Republic1860 Posts
BTW I'm calling it here, this season was the last "complete" season for BW, at least one major korean tourney will die and the rest will follow suit within a year. | ||
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