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Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 16:18:04
March 04 2012 16:17 GMT
#821
On March 04 2012 18:36 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 06:17 Eee wrote:
Why was my thread closed? ;P
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=317417&currentpage=12


I thought it was a good thread with some good discussion, it just got derailed pretty hard.

also maybe pick a less sensational title.

So when/if I release a part 2 it has to be with a different title?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 04 2012 16:43 GMT
#822
On March 05 2012 01:17 Eee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 18:36 Dodgin wrote:
On March 04 2012 06:17 Eee wrote:
Why was my thread closed? ;P
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=317417&currentpage=12


I thought it was a good thread with some good discussion, it just got derailed pretty hard.

also maybe pick a less sensational title.

So when/if I release a part 2 it has to be with a different title?


I don't know - I'm not a mod, obviously.

I just think they don't like sensational titles like " are we killing esports? " in sc2 general, if you made a blog this time I'm sure you can name it whatever you want.

Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 18:26:01
March 04 2012 18:25 GMT
#823
On March 05 2012 01:43 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 01:17 Eee wrote:
On March 04 2012 18:36 Dodgin wrote:
On March 04 2012 06:17 Eee wrote:
Why was my thread closed? ;P
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=317417&currentpage=12


I thought it was a good thread with some good discussion, it just got derailed pretty hard.

also maybe pick a less sensational title.

So when/if I release a part 2 it has to be with a different title?


I don't know - I'm not a mod, obviously.

I just think they don't like sensational titles like " are we killing esports? " in sc2 general, if you made a blog this time I'm sure you can name it whatever you want.


lol, you're not a mod. >.<
I talked to a mod earlier yesterday and he didnt really mind anything. He said that the title was slightly provoctive but the content was all good and whatever. Then like 6 hours later the thread is locked and someone has removed all of Tylers posts.

So mods, why did my thread get locked? <.<
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France2030 Posts
March 05 2012 13:18 GMT
#824
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=317825

This thread was closed because it didn'trespect strat forum guidelines. However, NrGmonk had taken some time to give very good and very detailed answers to some of the clueless posters in the thread. Since then, I think the thread had a lot more value and would definitely deserved to be read by those wondering about Robo vs Stargate PvP.

I guess I find it a bit sad that no one will read such good answers just because the OP is terrible. Wouldn't it be acceptable to leave it open even though the OP is lacking ?
geiko.813 (EU)
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
March 27 2012 01:37 GMT
#825
Hello, I opened a thread to have a discussion among BW fans on the scenario when Professional BW is no longer, as is the tendency of the news. I believe that it is a legitimate and important question, as it will generate discussion among fans. If the concern is that it will start a BW vs SC2 battle, I don't think so. History shows that BW fans don't indulge in such and are always mature enough to have a reasonable discussion. In that thread, I merely wanted to have an open discussion on where BW fans will go if there are no more SPL or OSL or MSL as we know it. Why was it closed? And if the mods find merit in my explanation, may I request for it to be reopened. Thanks.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324112
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
March 27 2012 08:44 GMT
#826
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=322664

I'd like to request this topic be re-opened. The topic is still a hot topic in the news media and social media and new details are still coming out that are fresh topics for discussion. I just came there to post a new article with newly obtained information when I realized it was closed. A lot of people have invested a lot in the discussion, for example the entire OP was just redone a couple days ago that included all the facts which involved a ton of research. Eventually we will have a close to the investigation and maybe a trial, or maybe even riots in the street, and I'm certain people will be interested in talking about that as well. Finally, I believe the topic hadn't really been derailed. One guy made a bad post and he was banned for it. These things happen from time to time and I think it's better to deal with them with bans instead of locking threads.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 18:01:53
March 28 2012 17:12 GMT
#827
On March 27 2012 17:44 BlackJack wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=322664

I'd like to request this topic be re-opened. The topic is still a hot topic in the news media and social media and new details are still coming out that are fresh topics for discussion. I just came there to post a new article with newly obtained information when I realized it was closed. A lot of people have invested a lot in the discussion, for example the entire OP was just redone a couple days ago that included all the facts which involved a ton of research. Eventually we will have a close to the investigation and maybe a trial, or maybe even riots in the street, and I'm certain people will be interested in talking about that as well. Finally, I believe the topic hadn't really been derailed. One guy made a bad post and he was banned for it. These things happen from time to time and I think it's better to deal with them with bans instead of locking threads.

The thread was circular and bitter, there were so many bad posts that it felt hypocritical to moderate anyone at all. However after internal discussion we agreed that if someone wanted to open a new thread with the new information, he would be allowed to open a new thread. I believe dAPhREAk is currently in the process of writing a new op and will be opening a new thread shortly. Hopefully this one will be less poisonous.

EDIT: here it is
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Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
March 30 2012 16:09 GMT
#828
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324528

The thread was closed because I put a [G] in the title and the closer thought that a [G] was inappropriate. I have a few questions about that.

1. Why is a [G] inappropriate in this instance? The thread is certainly not a [H], [L] or [Q] thread, which leaves only [G] and [D]. The point of the thread was less about discussing - rather, it was to show people something that they hadn't seen before - so it is not [D]. If it is not [G], then what is it supposed to be?

2. Could we not just change the title instead of closing it?
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 17:20:56
March 30 2012 17:18 GMT
#829
On March 31 2012 01:09 Gnial wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324528

The thread was closed because I put a [G] in the title and the closer thought that a [G] was inappropriate. I have a few questions about that.

1. Why is a [G] inappropriate in this instance? The thread is certainly not a [H], [L] or [Q] thread, which leaves only [G] and [D]. The point of the thread was less about discussing - rather, it was to show people something that they hadn't seen before - so it is not [D]. If it is not [G], then what is it supposed to be?

2. Could we not just change the title instead of closing it?

Your thread contained what you stated as facts e.g. "superior creep spreading" and you called out pros (e.g. Idra/Nestea) to have "inferior creep spreading" when in reality, it is just your own personal explanation. You have 0 practical top-level field experience results from your technique. If you had convinced a top pro (e.g. DRG) to use it and they say it's better then your title + post would be justified. However, you only had reasonings and nothing else.

If your title + post had been something like: hey, I've got this interesting creep spreading idea, what do you think about it? Then it would be fine. Right now, simply renaming your thread to a [D] is insufficient - you would need to redo your post to reflect that's just a discussion rather than fact.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 17:25:29
March 30 2012 17:24 GMT
#830
^^ Who told you the thread was closed because you chose the wrong tag?

Pandemik stated it clearly:

On March 30 2012 13:04 p4NDemik wrote:
This falls far short of the standards for strategy guides on TL. You jump to far too many conclusions and you do very little analysis to prove your hypothesis.


He's saying if it were a guide, you need more substance and evidence. But I doubt the thread would be left open carrying another tag.
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
March 30 2012 20:13 GMT
#831
On March 31 2012 01:09 Gnial wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324528

The thread was closed because I put a [G] in the title and the closer thought that a [G] was inappropriate. I have a few questions about that.

1. Why is a [G] inappropriate in this instance? The thread is certainly not a [H], [L] or [Q] thread, which leaves only [G] and [D]. The point of the thread was less about discussing - rather, it was to show people something that they hadn't seen before - so it is not [D]. If it is not [G], then what is it supposed to be?

2. Could we not just change the title instead of closing it?

Because you're writing a "guide" on something that is not in fact definitively good. A discussion is better because you aren't claiming that your idea is inherently superior (which many people pointed out that you did).
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Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
March 31 2012 03:26 GMT
#832
On March 31 2012 05:13 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 01:09 Gnial wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324528

The thread was closed because I put a [G] in the title and the closer thought that a [G] was inappropriate. I have a few questions about that.

1. Why is a [G] inappropriate in this instance? The thread is certainly not a [H], [L] or [Q] thread, which leaves only [G] and [D]. The point of the thread was less about discussing - rather, it was to show people something that they hadn't seen before - so it is not [D]. If it is not [G], then what is it supposed to be?

2. Could we not just change the title instead of closing it?

Because you're writing a "guide" on something that is not in fact definitively good. A discussion is better because you aren't claiming that your idea is inherently superior (which many people pointed out that you did).


OK, I understand that it is supposed to be a [D]. Can we just make it that way? Or is it really necessary to start a new thread?
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
March 31 2012 06:58 GMT
#833
On March 31 2012 12:26 Gnial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:13 Pokebunny wrote:
On March 31 2012 01:09 Gnial wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324528

The thread was closed because I put a [G] in the title and the closer thought that a [G] was inappropriate. I have a few questions about that.

1. Why is a [G] inappropriate in this instance? The thread is certainly not a [H], [L] or [Q] thread, which leaves only [G] and [D]. The point of the thread was less about discussing - rather, it was to show people something that they hadn't seen before - so it is not [D]. If it is not [G], then what is it supposed to be?

2. Could we not just change the title instead of closing it?

Because you're writing a "guide" on something that is not in fact definitively good. A discussion is better because you aren't claiming that your idea is inherently superior (which many people pointed out that you did).


OK, I understand that it is supposed to be a [D]. Can we just make it that way? Or is it really necessary to start a new thread?

it's more necessary to write an op about something worthwhile to read and adapt. the concept is just....... no
macro creep tumors? same thing as static defense when it is not necessary. you cannot say where a scan will happen. devoting energy to creep tumors and not spawning additional creep tumors from them is not some new ingenious tactic; it's a gamble, or a justification of laziness -.-
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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 22:39:48
April 03 2012 09:01 GMT
#834
Edit: Nvm, after a nights sleep I no longer care ^^
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
April 06 2012 16:50 GMT
#835
So, this wasn't my thread but I was checking through the closed sub forum (yeah.... ) and I noticed the thread LGBolero Map Hacking Incident was closed, but since it was basically just a team announcement/appology thread about a sponsered team removing a player for cheating I would have thought that should be ok.

It was closed with the post "Report it to blizzard" which is standard for map hacking accusations, but am I mistaken in thinking that the nature of this thread made it different to the standard "X Map hacked" thread?
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idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
April 12 2012 17:35 GMT
#836
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328672

not my thread but why was this thread closed? If it was closed because of having a bad OP, well it is a simple information thread that needs to be there for 1day and was never intended to have a discussion.
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 23:42:38
April 12 2012 23:42 GMT
#837
Since there's no response yet, I'd take a guess that it counted as advertisement. Also, "never intended to have discussion" is more of a reason to close it rather than keep it open.
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Mr.Bimbles
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Iceland457 Posts
April 13 2012 22:32 GMT
#838
thread that I made where I noticed a glitch in the ladder guide and it got locked... and what the moderator said is "use the ladder guide thanks!" and locked it?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328836
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
April 13 2012 22:51 GMT
#839
On April 14 2012 07:32 Mr.Bimbles wrote:
thread that I made where I noticed a glitch in the ladder guide and it got locked... and what the moderator said is "use the ladder guide thanks!" and locked it?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328836

The mod meant you to post this thing into the ladder guide thread, not make a new thread about it, it was closed simply because it does not need a new thread.

If there really is a glitch in the matchmaking it's up to the staff then to decide if it merits it's own thread. But based on your post you are just speculating, and one instance of this happening is hardly enough evidence to support that there is something wrong. I'm pretty sure something like this would've been noticed sooner anyway.
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 06:00:40
April 14 2012 06:00 GMT
#840
This thread that discusses how Blizzard can solve the problem of disconnects at major tournaments was closed by GMarshal 6 days ago:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=327351&currentpage=14

6 day later, a member of TeamLiquid has written a program that addresses continuing a game from a replay, as a possible solution for tournament disconnects:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328785

I don't want to sound accusational, but at the risk of being banned, it appears that GMarshal is not very concerned about improving the experience of SC2 and improving the experience at SC2 tournaments. GMarshal, no offense to you - I just want a straight up answer about why my thread was closed, especially seeing that my original thread may have contributed to another TeamLiquid member making an application that directly addresses disconnects at high level tournaments within 6 days of its posting. GMarshal, do you not want to have better features in SC2 and a better experience at SC2 tournaments? Do you not care for SC2's future?
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