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On October 09 2025 06:18 KwarK wrote:
I wonder if we could turn moderation of the topic over to the people. Establish an Athenian style system of Ostracism. If someone has had enough of another poster then they nominate them for ostracism and if the motion receives a second then the vote is opened. Posters of good standing (regular US pol posters, no alt accounts) PM a moderator with aye or nay. Assuming a quorum is reached the nominated individual is either informed that they can't post in the topic for a given period or is allowed to continue posting with immunity from immediate renominations for a period.
Which people? Anybody who shows up to vote? You specifically mentioned an Athenian system. In Athens there were a whole bunch of restrictions on who was actually allowed to vote. The demos in democracy was actually the elite. A system much replicated throughout history. I suggest we do that. And the voting class are everybody with mod privilege except Kwark! A genius solution if I may say so myself, which will definitely improve the posting quality in the USpol thread!
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On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:20 KwarK wrote:
I think there are a few steps missing there in your plan.
1. Remove a button that I don’t use
3. All forum users will be warned/banned for their rule breaking posts
5. Massive improvement in discussion.
You’re also going to need to recruit some new mods, get a lot of new/better posters, and discuss something less incendiary than the current state of US politics. It might be easier to just make your own forum and start over. Falling that you could take the GH approach and make a blog with a “no kwarks” rule. You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory.
It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality.
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United States43979 Posts
On October 09 2025 06:40 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 06:18 KwarK wrote:
I wonder if we could turn moderation of the topic over to the people. Establish an Athenian style system of Ostracism. If someone has had enough of another poster then they nominate them for ostracism and if the motion receives a second then the vote is opened. Posters of good standing (regular US pol posters, no alt accounts) PM a moderator with aye or nay. Assuming a quorum is reached the nominated individual is either informed that they can't post in the topic for a given period or is allowed to continue posting with immunity from immediate renominations for a period. Which people? Anybody who shows up to vote? You specifically mentioned an Athenian system. In Athens there were a whole bunch of restrictions on who was actually allowed to vote. The demos in democracy was actually the elite. A system much replicated throughout history. I suggest we do that. And the voting class are everybody with mod privilege except Kwark! A genius solution if I may say so myself, which will definitely improve the posting quality in the USpol thread!
You’re not right on your Athenian history here. Generally within the Hellenic poleis citizenship was restricted to those who engaged in civic service, generally military service. That normally required landholding, enough to support your time spent training, your bronze panoply, and so forth. But you have forgotten your Thucydides. Military service in the Athenian golden age is built on the citizen rower, specified by Thucydides in his history of the Peloponnesian war as requiring a cushion and oar loop, a vastly lower standard of wealth than the hoplite system. This is due to Athens’ unique status as a naval power, it was the rower on the trireme that formed the foundation. It is that unusual state of affairs that underpinned the much expanded citizen body that we think of when we consider Athenian democracy. You’re right that it’s still no women, no slaves, no foreigners, but you’re wrong about it being only elites. (When I learned Greek I read Thucydides in the original).
In any case I specifically addressed this, posters of good standing. We’d obviously have to establish a citizen body first but I think that ought not to be too hard. Any recognizable regular poster in the topic should work as a qualifier.
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Northern Ireland26776 Posts
On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:20 KwarK wrote:
I think there are a few steps missing there in your plan.
1. Remove a button that I don’t use
3. All forum users will be warned/banned for their rule breaking posts
5. Massive improvement in discussion.
You’re also going to need to recruit some new mods, get a lot of new/better posters, and discuss something less incendiary than the current state of US politics. It might be easier to just make your own forum and start over. Falling that you could take the GH approach and make a blog with a “no kwarks” rule. You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality.
Who else is getting banned?
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On October 09 2025 06:58 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:20 KwarK wrote:
I think there are a few steps missing there in your plan.
1. Remove a button that I don’t use
3. All forum users will be warned/banned for their rule breaking posts
5. Massive improvement in discussion.
You’re also going to need to recruit some new mods, get a lot of new/better posters, and discuss something less incendiary than the current state of US politics. It might be easier to just make your own forum and start over. Falling that you could take the GH approach and make a blog with a “no kwarks” rule. You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. Who else is getting banned?
I don't understand your question. When other forum users hurl insults at someone, is that what you're asking about?
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United States43979 Posts
On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:20 KwarK wrote:
I think there are a few steps missing there in your plan.
1. Remove a button that I don’t use
3. All forum users will be warned/banned for their rule breaking posts
5. Massive improvement in discussion.
You’re also going to need to recruit some new mods, get a lot of new/better posters, and discuss something less incendiary than the current state of US politics. It might be easier to just make your own forum and start over. Falling that you could take the GH approach and make a blog with a “no kwarks” rule. You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality.
That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion.
You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity.
You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant.
For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that.
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On October 09 2025 07:15 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:20 KwarK wrote:
I think there are a few steps missing there in your plan.
1. Remove a button that I don’t use
3. All forum users will be warned/banned for their rule breaking posts
5. Massive improvement in discussion.
You’re also going to need to recruit some new mods, get a lot of new/better posters, and discuss something less incendiary than the current state of US politics. It might be easier to just make your own forum and start over. Falling that you could take the GH approach and make a blog with a “no kwarks” rule. You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion. You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity. You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant. For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that.
Would other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules?
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Hyrule19210 Posts
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. It depends on the rule, the context, and the particular mod. Plenty of people get away with plenty of stuff. For example, I haven't banned everyone who posts in US Politics Thread for violating commandments 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, and 9 on a regular basis (basically constantly), and so far, neither has any other mod.
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On October 09 2025 07:21 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 07:15 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:20 KwarK wrote:
I think there are a few steps missing there in your plan.
1. Remove a button that I don’t use
3. All forum users will be warned/banned for their rule breaking posts
5. Massive improvement in discussion.
You’re also going to need to recruit some new mods, get a lot of new/better posters, and discuss something less incendiary than the current state of US politics. It might be easier to just make your own forum and start over. Falling that you could take the GH approach and make a blog with a “no kwarks” rule. You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion. You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity. You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant. For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that. Would other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules?
Mayyyyybe? Depends on who, what rules and also whether anybody even went to the trouble of reporting them.
Something can be said for Kwark being immune to being reported, but if it's so egregious you could just DM tofucake.
Edit: speak of the devil!
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United States43979 Posts
On October 09 2025 07:21 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 07:15 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:20 KwarK wrote:
I think there are a few steps missing there in your plan.
1. Remove a button that I don’t use
3. All forum users will be warned/banned for their rule breaking posts
5. Massive improvement in discussion.
You’re also going to need to recruit some new mods, get a lot of new/better posters, and discuss something less incendiary than the current state of US politics. It might be easier to just make your own forum and start over. Falling that you could take the GH approach and make a blog with a “no kwarks” rule. You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion. You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity. You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant. For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that. Would other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules?
Not by me. Except the rules against spambots etc.
But the question isn’t really clear. You need to outline what framework you’re using. What do you mean by forum rules?
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Hyrule19210 Posts
On October 09 2025 07:29 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 07:21 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 07:15 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:20 KwarK wrote:
I think there are a few steps missing there in your plan.
1. Remove a button that I don’t use
3. All forum users will be warned/banned for their rule breaking posts
5. Massive improvement in discussion.
You’re also going to need to recruit some new mods, get a lot of new/better posters, and discuss something less incendiary than the current state of US politics. It might be easier to just make your own forum and start over. Falling that you could take the GH approach and make a blog with a “no kwarks” rule. You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion. You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity. You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant. For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that. Would other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? Mayyyyybe? Depends on who, what rules and also whether anybody even went to the trouble of reporting them. Something can be said for Kwark being immune to being reported, but if it's so egregious you could just DM tofucake. Edit: speak of the devil!
For what it's worth, posting here like you would a report is just as effective.
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On October 09 2025 07:29 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 07:21 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 07:15 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:20 KwarK wrote:
I think there are a few steps missing there in your plan.
1. Remove a button that I don’t use
3. All forum users will be warned/banned for their rule breaking posts
5. Massive improvement in discussion.
You’re also going to need to recruit some new mods, get a lot of new/better posters, and discuss something less incendiary than the current state of US politics. It might be easier to just make your own forum and start over. Falling that you could take the GH approach and make a blog with a “no kwarks” rule. You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion. You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity. You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant. For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that. Would other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? Not by me. Except the rules against spambots etc. But the question isn’t really clear. You need to outline what framework you’re using. What do you mean by forum rules?
I only kept saying "hurling insults at people" multiple times, but ok I guess I wasn't entirely 1000% clear on that. My bad.
Is it now clear to you?
Q: Do other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules?
A: Yes (not literally always, but generally yes)
Q: Are you banned?
A: No.
Q: Did you hurl insults at multiple forum users on multiple occasions?
A: Yes
Q: Are you protected?
A: ...
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Northern Ireland26776 Posts
On October 09 2025 07:21 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 07:15 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:20 KwarK wrote:
I think there are a few steps missing there in your plan.
1. Remove a button that I don’t use
3. All forum users will be warned/banned for their rule breaking posts
5. Massive improvement in discussion.
You’re also going to need to recruit some new mods, get a lot of new/better posters, and discuss something less incendiary than the current state of US politics. It might be easier to just make your own forum and start over. Falling that you could take the GH approach and make a blog with a “no kwarks” rule. You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion. You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity. You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant. For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that. Would other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules?
Yes, albeit rarely. As someone who did cop a ban.
A ban I thought was fair enough incidentally.
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Northern Ireland26776 Posts
On October 09 2025 07:43 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 07:29 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 07:21 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 07:15 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:20 KwarK wrote:
I think there are a few steps missing there in your plan.
1. Remove a button that I don’t use
3. All forum users will be warned/banned for their rule breaking posts
5. Massive improvement in discussion.
You’re also going to need to recruit some new mods, get a lot of new/better posters, and discuss something less incendiary than the current state of US politics. It might be easier to just make your own forum and start over. Falling that you could take the GH approach and make a blog with a “no kwarks” rule. You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion. You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity. You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant. For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that. Would other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? Not by me. Except the rules against spambots etc. But the question isn’t really clear. You need to outline what framework you’re using. What do you mean by forum rules? I only kept saying "hurling insults at people" multiple times, but ok I guess I wasn't entirely 1000% clear on that. My bad. Is it now clear to you? Q: Do other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? A: Yes (not literally always, but generally yes) Q: Are you banned? A: No. Q: Did you hurl insults at multiple forum users on multiple occasions? A: Yes Q: Are you protected? A: ...
Being irascible isn’t against either general forum rules, nor specific pol rules
Fuck me, give over. Kwark isn’t even in the top 5 worst pol posters lmao. Jesus, gurn more
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United States43979 Posts
On October 09 2025 07:43 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 07:29 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 07:21 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 07:15 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:20 KwarK wrote:
I think there are a few steps missing there in your plan.
1. Remove a button that I don’t use
3. All forum users will be warned/banned for their rule breaking posts
5. Massive improvement in discussion.
You’re also going to need to recruit some new mods, get a lot of new/better posters, and discuss something less incendiary than the current state of US politics. It might be easier to just make your own forum and start over. Falling that you could take the GH approach and make a blog with a “no kwarks” rule. You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion. You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity. You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant. For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that. Would other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? Not by me. Except the rules against spambots etc. But the question isn’t really clear. You need to outline what framework you’re using. What do you mean by forum rules? I only kept saying "hurling insults at people" multiple times, but ok I guess I wasn't entirely 1000% clear on that. My bad. Is it now clear to you? Q: Do other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? A: Yes (not literally always, but generally yes) Q: Are you banned? A: No. Q: Did you hurl insults at multiple forum users on multiple occasions? A: Yes Q: Are you protected? A: ...
I don't agree with your assertions above.
But in any case, you know that you can just test your theory, right? Like you can just go to the topic and call me a name and see if anything happens. Wouldn't that settle this? This feels a lot like the fable of trying to convince someone of the current weather where they argue around in circles forever instead of just looking out the window.
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United States43979 Posts
On October 09 2025 07:51 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 07:43 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 07:29 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 07:21 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 07:15 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:
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You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion. You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity. You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant. For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that. Would other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? Not by me. Except the rules against spambots etc. But the question isn’t really clear. You need to outline what framework you’re using. What do you mean by forum rules? I only kept saying "hurling insults at people" multiple times, but ok I guess I wasn't entirely 1000% clear on that. My bad. Is it now clear to you? Q: Do other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? A: Yes (not literally always, but generally yes) Q: Are you banned? A: No. Q: Did you hurl insults at multiple forum users on multiple occasions? A: Yes Q: Are you protected? A: ... Being irascible isn’t against either general forum rules, nor specific pol rules Fuck me, give over. Kwark isn’t even in the top 5 worst pol posters lmao. Jesus, gurn more
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On October 09 2025 08:01 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 07:43 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 07:29 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 07:21 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 07:15 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 05:28 Magic Powers wrote:
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You are using your mod power. You can't get warned or banned. Is the game theory behind this fact unclear to you? I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons. Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier. That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion. You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity. You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant. For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that. Would other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? Not by me. Except the rules against spambots etc. But the question isn’t really clear. You need to outline what framework you’re using. What do you mean by forum rules? I only kept saying "hurling insults at people" multiple times, but ok I guess I wasn't entirely 1000% clear on that. My bad. Is it now clear to you? Q: Do other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? A: Yes (not literally always, but generally yes) Q: Are you banned? A: No. Q: Did you hurl insults at multiple forum users on multiple occasions? A: Yes Q: Are you protected? A: ... I don't agree with your assertions above. But in any case, you know that you can just test your theory, right? Like you can just go to the topic and call me a name and see if anything happens. Wouldn't that settle this? This feels a lot like the fable of trying to convince someone of the current weather where they argue around in circles forever instead of just looking out the window.
I got banned a few times over the course of a few years for things less egregious than insulting other forum users. I have also seen other people get banned for insulting forum users.
Are you denying that forum users get banned for insulting other forum users? Are you aware of the report -> reason selection that literally says "personal attack/insult"? Does it exist for shits and giggles?
I think we're both aware that I'm right about people getting banned for that.
Edit:
Or, let me reconsider.
Is your point that, since you have the privilege of insulting literally everyone, while others have the privilege of insulting only you but nobody else, therefore you're not protected?
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United States43979 Posts
On October 09 2025 08:14 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 08:01 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 07:43 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 07:29 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 07:21 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 07:15 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 05:51 KwarK wrote:
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I could absolutely be warned or banned were others on the moderation team so inclined. If the powers that be were resolved to remove me I would have no more recourse than anyone else. I don’t know what mechanism you’re even thinking of that would prevent it. I’m not in the union, I’m not in a protected class, I don’t have the right to a tribunal. Technically I’m not even a full mod, I’m a subclass called banling, for a lot of stuff I’d have to message a full mod to do it because I don’t have the buttons.
Before a forum veteran is moderated there’s generally a quick chat between mods for look for consensus. In the event that another moderator wanted to moderate me the process would be no different and if the consensus was reached then there would be no barrier.
That’s part of why your protestations about my power are so strange. If, for example, eriador wanted me gone I’d have no more protection than you’d have. But I can understand your lack of familiarity with the process. If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion. You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity. You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant. For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that. Would other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? Not by me. Except the rules against spambots etc. But the question isn’t really clear. You need to outline what framework you’re using. What do you mean by forum rules? I only kept saying "hurling insults at people" multiple times, but ok I guess I wasn't entirely 1000% clear on that. My bad. Is it now clear to you? Q: Do other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? A: Yes (not literally always, but generally yes) Q: Are you banned? A: No. Q: Did you hurl insults at multiple forum users on multiple occasions? A: Yes Q: Are you protected? A: ... I don't agree with your assertions above. But in any case, you know that you can just test your theory, right? Like you can just go to the topic and call me a name and see if anything happens. Wouldn't that settle this? This feels a lot like the fable of trying to convince someone of the current weather where they argue around in circles forever instead of just looking out the window. I got banned a few times over the course of a few years for things less egregious than insulting other forum users. I have also seen other people get banned for insulting forum users. Are you denying that forum users get banned for insulting other forum users? Are you aware of the report -> reason selection that literally says "personal attack/insult"? Does it exist for shits and giggles? I think we're both aware that I'm right about people getting banned for that.
It's really problematic that you have absolutely no clue what you did wrong when you were last banned.
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On October 09 2025 08:15 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2025 08:14 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 08:01 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 07:43 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 07:29 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 07:21 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 07:15 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:54 Magic Powers wrote:On October 09 2025 06:31 KwarK wrote:On October 09 2025 06:27 Magic Powers wrote:
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If you're not protected, why are you not getting banned for breaking forum rules multiple times? Why are you currently not banned? It’s difficult to answer the question of why something hasn’t happened. I could say because no mod wants me banned, but that answer is circular and probably unsatisfactory. It follows that between theory and practice, there is no difference to my argument. You are not going to get banned no matter how often you break the rules. If you think you're not more powerful than other forum users, you're living in some alternate reality. That’s absolutely not what I said. You’re grandfathering in your conclusion. You asserted that banling status makes me immune. I explained that banling immunity is absolutely not a thing, moderators could moderate me if they wanted, same as anyone else. That doesn’t mean that we’re agreed that I’m immune, it means we’re disagreed on banling immunity. You’re starting with an assertion that I’m immune and trying to invent an explanation for it. If A is disproved then it must be B. If B is disproved then it doesn’t matter, it’s still true to you, it’s not relevant. For what it’s worth I don’t think I am immune. But given that you do I don’t understand what your end game is here. You’re trying to convince me that I have immunity? If I seem to think that I am staying on the right side of some kind of line then isn’t that good for you? If you successfully convince me that there is no line then I don’t think you get what you want out of that. Would other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? Not by me. Except the rules against spambots etc. But the question isn’t really clear. You need to outline what framework you’re using. What do you mean by forum rules? I only kept saying "hurling insults at people" multiple times, but ok I guess I wasn't entirely 1000% clear on that. My bad. Is it now clear to you? Q: Do other forum users get banned for breaking forum rules? A: Yes (not literally always, but generally yes) Q: Are you banned? A: No. Q: Did you hurl insults at multiple forum users on multiple occasions? A: Yes Q: Are you protected? A: ... I don't agree with your assertions above. But in any case, you know that you can just test your theory, right? Like you can just go to the topic and call me a name and see if anything happens. Wouldn't that settle this? This feels a lot like the fable of trying to convince someone of the current weather where they argue around in circles forever instead of just looking out the window. I got banned a few times over the course of a few years for things less egregious than insulting other forum users. I have also seen other people get banned for insulting forum users. Are you denying that forum users get banned for insulting other forum users? Are you aware of the report -> reason selection that literally says "personal attack/insult"? Does it exist for shits and giggles? I think we're both aware that I'm right about people getting banned for that. It's really problematic that you have absolutely no clue what you did wrong when you were last banned.
Where did I say that? I said it was less egregious, not that I don't know for what reason.
Edit: it's late and I'm going to bed.
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On October 09 2025 08:14 Magic Powers wrote:
Is your point that, since you have the privilege of insulting literally everyone, while others have the privilege of insulting only you but nobody else, therefore you're not protected?
It's not. Insult someone else if you want to test the theory. I just figured I'd volunteer myself because it'd be rude to volunteer a third party to be insulted.
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