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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23772 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-03-28 16:07:57
8 hours ago
#6861
On March 25 2026 10:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Democrats just flipped Trump's Mar-a-Lago Florida district, which he had won by 11 points during the last presidential election:

"Democrat Emily Gregory won a special election Tuesday for the Florida state House district that includes President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort, flipping the seat from Republican control, The Associated Press projects. Gregory beat Republican Jon Maples, whom Trump endorsed ...

Gregory had 51% of the vote to 49% for Maples with all precincts reporting. Democrats have performed well in special elections during Trump’s second term, with the party pointing to those results as a sign of strength ahead of the 2026 midterm elections. Florida’s 87th District is the 10th GOP-held state legislative seat Democrats have flipped around the country since Trump took office again last year. Republicans have not flipped any Democratic state legislative seats during that time. Trump carried this Florida legislative district by about 11 percentage points in 2024"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/democrat-flips-republican-florida-house-seat-includes-trump-mar-lago-rcna264660



On March 27 2026 00:10 GreenHorizons wrote:
Interesting divide among Democrats about how to handle the rapid expansion of environmentally spurious AI data centers.

Show nested quote +
Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) said on Wednesday at Axios' AI+DC Summit that placing a moratorium on the construction of AI data centers would be "idiocy," adding that it would grant China an edge in the race to dominate artificial intelligence.

Why it matters: Warner's comments come the same day that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) unveiled legislation to pause all new data center construction nationwide until AI safeguards are in place.

"That would be idiocy," Warner said when asked about the idea of a moratorium to ease the transition to AI.
"A data center moratorium simply means China is going to move quicker," he added.

Their bill would impose a national moratorium on new AI data center construction until "strong national safeguards" are in place, per a press release.


www.axios.com


On March 27 2026 01:10 LightSpectra wrote:
So here's a controversial topic, Democratic primary in Maine for the U.S. Senate, the winner will run against Collins in November.

The two leading candidates are current governor Janet Mills, moderate endorsed by Chuck Schumer, 79 years old, and Graham Platner, left-wing endorsed by Bernie Sanders, 42 years old.

In normal circumstances I would say Platner is the obvious choice, BUT, he also had a Totenkopf tattoo (he claims he didn't know what it meant when he got it and said he would laser it off in October of last year). He's also an ex-mercenary for private military company Blackwater, even after their role in the Nisour Square massacre was made public knowledge. So there's a real worry that he's simply faking being left-wing and will go full John Fetterman/Kyrsten Sinema after he's elected.

I don't live in Maine so this isn't my problem, but it's an interesting dilemma for progressives there.


This isn't specifically a complaint, rather it is documenting my observation that the libs/Dems/ilk in the thread are demonstrably chronically incapable of maintaining a US politics discussion among themselves that isn't in the mock and gawk vein

Just look at those 10 pages. Even when they clearly disagree with each other, they still seemingly can't actually discuss it with each other. As opposed to how they can consistently have these very long incessant and perpetual shit flinging contests with people the libs/Dems/ilk themselves say they should ignore.

As one example, Some think voting Platner in the primary is the better choice, others voting for Mills, none of them actually discussed it with each other. As another, some people think the progressive AI proposal is sensible, others agree with the centrists and think it is stupid. No one was interested in discussing DPB's post about the Democrat that won in Trump's Mar-a-Lago district. Like how they won, or how that might be or not be used to beat Trump elsewhere as some examples.

Honestly, any of you that think you might fall in the "libs/Dems/ilk" grouping, I welcome you to show me the last time any of you have had a comparably lengthy exchange about a political disagreement within the libs/Dems/ilk "in-group" and show me how wrong I am.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24762 Posts
7 hours ago
#6862
With the gap between the major political parties so big, it's not surprising that people of somewhat similar ideologies don't focus much on differences among themselves while all three branches of government are held by the other party. And yea, the need to argue with perceived bad-faith opponents is frustrating to see.
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Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1588 Posts
6 hours ago
#6863
On March 29 2026 02:21 micronesia wrote:
With the gap between the major political parties so big, it's not surprising that people of somewhat similar ideologies don't focus much on differences among themselves while all three branches of government are held by the other party. And yea, the need to argue with perceived bad-faith opponents is frustrating to see.

I could see how that would frustrating. I feel no pity though for someone who is waste deep in the mud.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23772 Posts
6 hours ago
#6864
On March 29 2026 02:21 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2026 01:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 25 2026 10:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Democrats just flipped Trump's Mar-a-Lago Florida district, which he had won by 11 points during the last presidential election:

"Democrat Emily Gregory won a special election Tuesday for the Florida state House district that includes President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort, flipping the seat from Republican control, The Associated Press projects. Gregory beat Republican Jon Maples, whom Trump endorsed ...

Gregory had 51% of the vote to 49% for Maples with all precincts reporting. Democrats have performed well in special elections during Trump’s second term, with the party pointing to those results as a sign of strength ahead of the 2026 midterm elections. Florida’s 87th District is the 10th GOP-held state legislative seat Democrats have flipped around the country since Trump took office again last year. Republicans have not flipped any Democratic state legislative seats during that time. Trump carried this Florida legislative district by about 11 percentage points in 2024"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/democrat-flips-republican-florida-house-seat-includes-trump-mar-lago-rcna264660



On March 27 2026 00:10 GreenHorizons wrote:
Interesting divide among Democrats about how to handle the rapid expansion of environmentally spurious AI data centers.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) said on Wednesday at Axios' AI+DC Summit that placing a moratorium on the construction of AI data centers would be "idiocy," adding that it would grant China an edge in the race to dominate artificial intelligence.

Why it matters: Warner's comments come the same day that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) unveiled legislation to pause all new data center construction nationwide until AI safeguards are in place.

"That would be idiocy," Warner said when asked about the idea of a moratorium to ease the transition to AI.
"A data center moratorium simply means China is going to move quicker," he added.

Their bill would impose a national moratorium on new AI data center construction until "strong national safeguards" are in place, per a press release.


www.axios.com


On March 27 2026 01:10 LightSpectra wrote:
So here's a controversial topic, Democratic primary in Maine for the U.S. Senate, the winner will run against Collins in November.

The two leading candidates are current governor Janet Mills, moderate endorsed by Chuck Schumer, 79 years old, and Graham Platner, left-wing endorsed by Bernie Sanders, 42 years old.

In normal circumstances I would say Platner is the obvious choice, BUT, he also had a Totenkopf tattoo (he claims he didn't know what it meant when he got it and said he would laser it off in October of last year). He's also an ex-mercenary for private military company Blackwater, even after their role in the Nisour Square massacre was made public knowledge. So there's a real worry that he's simply faking being left-wing and will go full John Fetterman/Kyrsten Sinema after he's elected.

I don't live in Maine so this isn't my problem, but it's an interesting dilemma for progressives there.


This isn't specifically a complaint, rather it is documenting my observation that the libs/Dems/ilk in the thread are demonstrably chronically incapable of maintaining a US politics discussion among themselves that isn't in the mock and gawk vein

Just look at those 10 pages. Even when they clearly disagree with each other, they still seemingly can't actually discuss it with each other. As opposed to how they can consistently have these very long incessant and perpetual shit flinging contests with people the libs/Dems/ilk themselves say they should ignore.

As one example, Some think voting Platner in the primary is the better choice, others voting for Mills, none of them actually discussed it with each other. As another, some people think the progressive AI proposal is sensible, others agree with the centrists and think it is stupid. No one was interested in discussing DPB's post about the Democrat that won in Trump's Mar-a-Lago district. Like how they won, or how that might be or not be used to beat Trump elsewhere as some examples.

Honestly, any of you that think you might fall in the "libs/Dems/ilk" grouping, I welcome you to show me the last time any of you have had a comparably lengthy exchange about a political disagreement within the libs/Dems/ilk "in-group" and show me how wrong I am.

With the gap between the major political parties so big, it's not surprising that people of somewhat similar ideologies don't focus much on differences among themselves while all three branches of government are held by the other party. And yea, the need to argue with perceived bad-faith opponents is frustrating to see.

"focus much" would be one thing, I'm pointing out that they're evidently/seemingly/functionally incapable, evidenced further by there not being any counterexamples to be seen. If it was rare compared to the incessant engaging with perceived bad-faith opponents, that might be regrettable, but still understandable. That it is practically nonexistent, speaks to a fascination beyond the politics for me.

This phenomena, while indisputable since Republicans took power (and I've started documenting it), was certainly happening before that too. Anyone would struggle to find a high-quality counterexample going back for ~a decade at this point.

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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