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Oh, jeez, I didn't go that far back so I didn't see that this was the one, thank you for pointing it out!
I honestly don't even see how this is a shitpost, it's a real story from my life, it's not really offensive and there were a few back and forth posts with various posters in the thread about it, so I really don't get it.
I guess the new standards of modding the thread is that you can't mention others anymore?
I mean, I can abide by that, but to me, as someone who's been active in the thread for a while now it seems like a very arbitrary criteria, to me, it seems like Tofucake in this case decided that he's "going to deal with me" and I get different criteria of what is a bannable offense then others.
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This is just the problem with moderating, it is hard to be completely fair and you can always find something else someone else did that is the same or worse but does not get actioned. The fun extra bonus is that once you get moderated, then you are moderated more closely going forward each time. So be careful as some people here treat it like a sport to try to get you banned.
That being said, this is what lots asked for, and Tofu is delivering.
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On October 19 2025 22:49 Jankisa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Oh, jeez, I didn't go that far back so I didn't see that this was the one, thank you for pointing it out!
I honestly don't even see how this is a shitpost, it's a real story from my life, it's not really offensive and there were a few back and forth posts with various posters in the thread about it, so I really don't get it. I guess the new standards of modding the thread is that you can't mention others anymore? + Show Spoiler +I mean, I can abide by that, but to me, as someone who's been active in the thread for a while now it seems like a very arbitrary criteria, to me, it seems like Tofucake in this case decided that he's "going to deal with me" and I get different criteria of what is a bannable offense then others.
It would seem there's a bit more to it than that based on this exchange:
On October 19 2025 02:21 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2025 02:06 Gorsameth wrote:On October 19 2025 01:42 Billyboy wrote:
When the true revolutionists become to complacent to even go to actual protests you know it is all lost. Some might say it mere shows him for the fraud that he always was. I mean its the general problem with "true revolutionaries" that don't want to do the work to actually change things they just want to complain about nothing getting done. Its clear GH values his moral high ground over any actual revolutionary feelings.
I can agree, it's a bit confusing. I believe the thread's participants need to do real conflict resolution work, but the people with the power to make that happen (understandably) aren't sufficiently motivated to do that.
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GH you have the power to engage in it and promote it if you want to. You can't be involved in a situation and absolve yourself of any responsibility for being in that situation. You're the one who grossly shrugs off any criticism as other people being "emotional" in a way that belittles and diminishes what they are saying without addressing or responding to it in any healthy way.
Do you think that you foster in any way a harmonious or positive atmosphere with the way that you post or act around others?
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On October 20 2025 01:58 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2025 01:14 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 19 2025 22:49 Jankisa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Oh, jeez, I didn't go that far back so I didn't see that this was the one, thank you for pointing it out!
I honestly don't even see how this is a shitpost, it's a real story from my life, it's not really offensive and there were a few back and forth posts with various posters in the thread about it, so I really don't get it. I guess the new standards of modding the thread is that you can't mention others anymore? + Show Spoiler +I mean, I can abide by that, but to me, as someone who's been active in the thread for a while now it seems like a very arbitrary criteria, to me, it seems like Tofucake in this case decided that he's "going to deal with me" and I get different criteria of what is a bannable offense then others. It would seem there's a bit more to it than that based on this exchange: On October 19 2025 02:21 Sermokala wrote:On October 19 2025 02:06 Gorsameth wrote:On October 19 2025 01:42 Billyboy wrote:
When the true revolutionists become to complacent to even go to actual protests you know it is all lost. Some might say it mere shows him for the fraud that he always was. I mean its the general problem with "true revolutionaries" that don't want to do the work to actually change things they just want to complain about nothing getting done. Its clear GH values his moral high ground over any actual revolutionary feelings. I can agree, it's a bit confusing. I believe the thread's participants need to do real conflict resolution work, but the people with the power to make that happen (understandably) aren't sufficiently motivated to do that. GH you have the power to engage in it and promote it if you want to. + Show Spoiler +You can't be involved in a situation and absolve yourself of any responsibility for being in that situation. You're the one who grossly shrugs off any criticism as other people being "emotional" in a way that belittles and diminishes what they are saying without addressing or responding to it in any healthy way.
Do you think that you foster in any way a harmonious or positive atmosphere with the way that you post or act around others? You're responding to me promoting it.
I also used my limited conflict resolution skills when I had the US politics Mega-Blog. It worked.
I didn't report you guys (and iirc haven't reported anyone but bots in years) and don't want you banned. As to your question, I believe I've made significant improvements to my posting over the years.
I'm certainly far from perfect when it comes to this stuff, but that's part of why having reliable mediators is very helpful. Maybe Farv knows someone in the National Academy of Distinguished Neutrals that could help out lol?
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On October 20 2025 02:41 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2025 01:58 Sermokala wrote:On October 20 2025 01:14 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 19 2025 22:49 Jankisa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Oh, jeez, I didn't go that far back so I didn't see that this was the one, thank you for pointing it out!
I honestly don't even see how this is a shitpost, it's a real story from my life, it's not really offensive and there were a few back and forth posts with various posters in the thread about it, so I really don't get it. I guess the new standards of modding the thread is that you can't mention others anymore? + Show Spoiler +I mean, I can abide by that, but to me, as someone who's been active in the thread for a while now it seems like a very arbitrary criteria, to me, it seems like Tofucake in this case decided that he's "going to deal with me" and I get different criteria of what is a bannable offense then others. It would seem there's a bit more to it than that based on this exchange: On October 19 2025 02:21 Sermokala wrote:On October 19 2025 02:06 Gorsameth wrote:On October 19 2025 01:42 Billyboy wrote:
When the true revolutionists become to complacent to even go to actual protests you know it is all lost. Some might say it mere shows him for the fraud that he always was. I mean its the general problem with "true revolutionaries" that don't want to do the work to actually change things they just want to complain about nothing getting done. Its clear GH values his moral high ground over any actual revolutionary feelings. I can agree, it's a bit confusing. I believe the thread's participants need to do real conflict resolution work, but the people with the power to make that happen (understandably) aren't sufficiently motivated to do that. GH you have the power to engage in it and promote it if you want to. + Show Spoiler +You can't be involved in a situation and absolve yourself of any responsibility for being in that situation. You're the one who grossly shrugs off any criticism as other people being "emotional" in a way that belittles and diminishes what they are saying without addressing or responding to it in any healthy way.
Do you think that you foster in any way a harmonious or positive atmosphere with the way that you post or act around others? You're responding to me promoting it. I also used my limited conflict resolution skills when I had the US politics Mega-Blog. It worked. I didn't report you guys (and iirc haven't reported anyone but bots in years) and don't want you banned. As to your question, I believe I've made significant improvements to my posting over the years. I'm certainly far from perfect when it comes to this stuff, but that's part of why having reliable mediators is very helpful. Maybe Farv knows someone in the National Academy of Distinguished Neutrals that could help out lol?
It didn't work, if it did it would still exist.
You're not promoting it, you framing it as others need to do the work, ignoreing your own agency in the situation you find youself in. I do not think you've made progress over the years, unless you think casually calling others genocide supporters as a fact something that can be framed as an improvement.
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I think we should enjoy GH's good citizen era for as long as it lasts. It sure beats the hell out of the genocide denial era, the Maduro is a good socialist era, the Russian talking point era, the 300 plus times he called everyone else complicit in genocide era, or the multiple personality era.
If he keeps this up he might actually become likeable.
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On October 20 2025 06:44 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2025 02:41 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 20 2025 01:58 Sermokala wrote:On October 20 2025 01:14 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 19 2025 22:49 Jankisa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Oh, jeez, I didn't go that far back so I didn't see that this was the one, thank you for pointing it out!
I honestly don't even see how this is a shitpost, it's a real story from my life, it's not really offensive and there were a few back and forth posts with various posters in the thread about it, so I really don't get it. I guess the new standards of modding the thread is that you can't mention others anymore? + Show Spoiler +I mean, I can abide by that, but to me, as someone who's been active in the thread for a while now it seems like a very arbitrary criteria, to me, it seems like Tofucake in this case decided that he's "going to deal with me" and I get different criteria of what is a bannable offense then others. It would seem there's a bit more to it than that based on this exchange: On October 19 2025 02:21 Sermokala wrote:On October 19 2025 02:06 Gorsameth wrote:On October 19 2025 01:42 Billyboy wrote:
When the true revolutionists become to complacent to even go to actual protests you know it is all lost. Some might say it mere shows him for the fraud that he always was. I mean its the general problem with "true revolutionaries" that don't want to do the work to actually change things they just want to complain about nothing getting done. Its clear GH values his moral high ground over any actual revolutionary feelings. I can agree, it's a bit confusing. I believe the thread's participants need to do real conflict resolution work, but the people with the power to make that happen (understandably) aren't sufficiently motivated to do that. GH you have the power to engage in it and promote it if you want to. + Show Spoiler +You can't be involved in a situation and absolve yourself of any responsibility for being in that situation. You're the one who grossly shrugs off any criticism as other people being "emotional" in a way that belittles and diminishes what they are saying without addressing or responding to it in any healthy way.
Do you think that you foster in any way a harmonious or positive atmosphere with the way that you post or act around others? You're responding to me promoting it. I also used my limited conflict resolution skills when I had the US politics Mega-Blog. It worked. I didn't report you guys (and iirc haven't reported anyone but bots in years) and don't want you banned. As to your question, I believe I've made significant improvements to my posting over the years. I'm certainly far from perfect when it comes to this stuff, but that's part of why having reliable mediators is very helpful. Maybe Farv knows someone in the National Academy of Distinguished Neutrals that could help out lol? It didn't work, if it did it would still exist. You're not promoting it, you framing it as others need to do the work, ignoreing your own agency in the situation you find youself in. I do not think you've made progress over the years, unless you think casually calling others genocide supporters as a fact something that can be framed as an improvement. The perception that it was working is essentially why it was closed.
I'm literally promoting it and I also volunteered to do the work again.
I don't know where the appropriate place to deal with your genocide issue is, but I'm not even clear whether your problem is that you don't agree with the majority of Biden voters that think Israel is engaged in genocide, the fact that Democrats/Republicans have aided and abetted that genocide, while providing political cover at the UN enabling Israel to commit that genocide, or the conclusion that materially supporting the people doing that is enabling them.
Or maybe you agree/accept all that and just don't like it being brought to people's attention?
That'll be the last I say to you about it here and now until/unless a mod explicitly says where they want that sort of discussion held.
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I'm going to shock the world and support GH's blog, with the caveat that GH stays off the US pol thread. That way he gets his safe spot and the rest of us get to have conversations without everything being derailed by the combo of being accused of being complicit in genocide and bad dems bad.
Seems like a two birds one stone kind of solution.
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On October 20 2025 09:20 Billyboy wrote:
I'm going to shock the world and support GH's blog, with the caveat that GH stays off the US pol thread. That way he gets his safe spot and the rest of us get to have conversations without everything being derailed by the combo of being accused of being complicit in genocide and bad dems bad.
Seems like a two birds one stone kind of solution.
I can always pop into US pol every now and again to remind you that you're complicit in genocide just to keep some consistency to the debate...
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On October 20 2025 00:44 Billyboy wrote:
This is just the problem with moderating, it is hard to be completely fair and you can always find something else someone else did that is the same or worse but does not get actioned. The fun extra bonus is that once you get moderated, then you are moderated more closely going forward each time. So be careful as some people here treat it like a sport to try to get you banned.
That being said, this is what lots asked for, and Tofu is delivering.
It’s a thankless task for sure.
I advocated for more stringent moderation on certain threads so I cannae complain now.
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On October 20 2025 22:18 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2025 09:20 Billyboy wrote:
I'm going to shock the world and support GH's blog, with the caveat that GH stays off the US pol thread. That way he gets his safe spot and the rest of us get to have conversations without everything being derailed by the combo of being accused of being complicit in genocide and bad dems bad.
Seems like a two birds one stone kind of solution. I can always pop into US pol every now and again to remind you that you're complicit in genocide just to keep some consistency to the debate...
Thank you that is thoughtful. I'm not sure it would have the same effect as an American genocide denier telling non Americans they are complicit for not hating the dems hard enough on a gaming forum, but if you are repetitive enough you could probably pull it off. There is plenty of posts to copy and not much originality.
Jokes aside I think it would be good. There are people who enjoy posting with GH and they could in his blog and for all those that his posts are like nails on the chalkboard, they could ignore his thread. If they could not he could just ban them or use his techniques.
That being said, he could be discussing politics in the US through the socialism lens in his blog right now.
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Why can’t one just ignore GH’s posts in regular threads if one doesn’t like it?
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On October 20 2025 08:22 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2025 06:44 Sermokala wrote:On October 20 2025 02:41 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 20 2025 01:58 Sermokala wrote:On October 20 2025 01:14 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 19 2025 22:49 Jankisa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Oh, jeez, I didn't go that far back so I didn't see that this was the one, thank you for pointing it out!
I honestly don't even see how this is a shitpost, it's a real story from my life, it's not really offensive and there were a few back and forth posts with various posters in the thread about it, so I really don't get it. I guess the new standards of modding the thread is that you can't mention others anymore? + Show Spoiler +I mean, I can abide by that, but to me, as someone who's been active in the thread for a while now it seems like a very arbitrary criteria, to me, it seems like Tofucake in this case decided that he's "going to deal with me" and I get different criteria of what is a bannable offense then others. It would seem there's a bit more to it than that based on this exchange: On October 19 2025 02:21 Sermokala wrote:On October 19 2025 02:06 Gorsameth wrote:On October 19 2025 01:42 Billyboy wrote:
When the true revolutionists become to complacent to even go to actual protests you know it is all lost. Some might say it mere shows him for the fraud that he always was. I mean its the general problem with "true revolutionaries" that don't want to do the work to actually change things they just want to complain about nothing getting done. Its clear GH values his moral high ground over any actual revolutionary feelings. I can agree, it's a bit confusing. I believe the thread's participants need to do real conflict resolution work, but the people with the power to make that happen (understandably) aren't sufficiently motivated to do that. GH you have the power to engage in it and promote it if you want to. + Show Spoiler +You can't be involved in a situation and absolve yourself of any responsibility for being in that situation. You're the one who grossly shrugs off any criticism as other people being "emotional" in a way that belittles and diminishes what they are saying without addressing or responding to it in any healthy way.
Do you think that you foster in any way a harmonious or positive atmosphere with the way that you post or act around others? You're responding to me promoting it. I also used my limited conflict resolution skills when I had the US politics Mega-Blog. It worked. I didn't report you guys (and iirc haven't reported anyone but bots in years) and don't want you banned. As to your question, I believe I've made significant improvements to my posting over the years. I'm certainly far from perfect when it comes to this stuff, but that's part of why having reliable mediators is very helpful. Maybe Farv knows someone in the National Academy of Distinguished Neutrals that could help out lol? It didn't work, if it did it would still exist. You're not promoting it, you framing it as others need to do the work, ignoreing your own agency in the situation you find youself in. I do not think you've made progress over the years, unless you think casually calling others genocide supporters as a fact something that can be framed as an improvement. The perception that it was working is essentially why it was closed. I'm literally promoting it and I also volunteered to do the work again. I don't know where the appropriate place to deal with your genocide issue is, but I'm not even clear whether your problem is that you don't agree with the majority of Biden voters that think Israel is engaged in genocide, the fact that Democrats/Republicans have aided and abetted that genocide, while providing political cover at the UN enabling Israel to commit that genocide, or the conclusion that materially supporting the people doing that is enabling them. Or maybe you agree/accept all that and just don't like it being brought to people's attention? That'll be the last I say to you about it here and now until/unless a mod explicitly says where they want that sort of discussion held.
This is a primary example GH. You're acting like telling someone that they're materially supporting genocide or are a genocide supporter is no big deal and that they are the ones that need to deal with the result of you doing that.
Do you think you have good conversations with people you casually insist are genocide supporters? Why would you expect people to engage with you in good faith if that is your starting point of your perception of them?
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On October 20 2025 23:38 WombaT wrote:
Why can’t one just ignore GH’s posts in regular threads if one doesn’t like it?
They can! This is why I was in the no moderation, lets all be adults and hold each other accountable camp. The issue also impacts those not participating in the fighting or sniping.
I'm fine with how it is now, GH has just asked multiple times for that block to restart and I understand why the mods are not interested because what is in it for them? So I thought, it might be a win/win if GH got his blog, and they had to deal with less BS in the other thread.
But yes status quo is fine by me, and also GH has a political blog already and since he always wants to discuss it through the socialist lens he and others could do that there. The only thing stopping it right now is GH and that people who have tried to discuss things with him in there are not getting the type of conversation they like.
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