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On August 14 2025 03:27 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2025 20:39 Magic Powers wrote:On August 13 2025 17:45 BlackJack wrote:
Don't get me wrong, my objection is not because I want to defend Kwark from being misrepresented. I don't really care. My objection to this level of discourse is that it's just stupid social justice warrioring that should be left for the comment fields on tiktok/twitter/reddit. Is that something you also observe from the people who are opposed to progressives/left-wingers? I'm asking because my own observation is that it's not just one side. I think oBlade, Introvert, Razyda and others are heavily engaged in their own version of social justice warrioring, by claiming that left-wing policies are actively harmful to entire demographics, when in reality this is often a complete misrepresentation of what the policies are doing. You're saying that the equivalent of claiming Kwark supports killing Palestinian children is introvert/oblade/rayzda airing some grievance about left wing policies being harmful? The two are not even remotely similar.
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Huh? I have no idea where that just came from. How did you process my comment to arrive at that?
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On August 14 2025 04:05 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2025 03:27 BlackJack wrote:On August 13 2025 20:39 Magic Powers wrote:On August 13 2025 17:45 BlackJack wrote:
Don't get me wrong, my objection is not because I want to defend Kwark from being misrepresented. I don't really care. My objection to this level of discourse is that it's just stupid social justice warrioring that should be left for the comment fields on tiktok/twitter/reddit. Is that something you also observe from the people who are opposed to progressives/left-wingers? I'm asking because my own observation is that it's not just one side. I think oBlade, Introvert, Razyda and others are heavily engaged in their own version of social justice warrioring, by claiming that left-wing policies are actively harmful to entire demographics, when in reality this is often a complete misrepresentation of what the policies are doing. You're saying that the equivalent of claiming Kwark supports killing Palestinian children is introvert/oblade/rayzda airing some grievance about left wing policies being harmful? The two are not even remotely similar. No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Huh? I have no idea where that just came from. How did you process my comment to arrive at that?
Your attempt at "both sides-ing" this onto conservative posters. The definition of social justice warrioring I offered was engaging in ad hominem to attack posters in defense of some marginalized group. Examples:
You call Kwark a racist because he points out the high fertility rate of Gaza
Kwark calls you racist because you compare that high fertility rate to rabbits
You call Kwark racist because he wants to mass deport migrants
Kwark calls you racist because you want migrants to stay while not having legal protection from exploitation
This sort of Twitter-esque shit flinging is entirely coming from posters left of center. It was tolerable back in the day when it was mostly just Sermokala making arguments like this but now it's half the forum.
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On August 14 2025 04:51 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2025 04:05 Magic Powers wrote:On August 14 2025 03:27 BlackJack wrote:On August 13 2025 20:39 Magic Powers wrote:On August 13 2025 17:45 BlackJack wrote:
Don't get me wrong, my objection is not because I want to defend Kwark from being misrepresented. I don't really care. My objection to this level of discourse is that it's just stupid social justice warrioring that should be left for the comment fields on tiktok/twitter/reddit. Is that something you also observe from the people who are opposed to progressives/left-wingers? I'm asking because my own observation is that it's not just one side. I think oBlade, Introvert, Razyda and others are heavily engaged in their own version of social justice warrioring, by claiming that left-wing policies are actively harmful to entire demographics, when in reality this is often a complete misrepresentation of what the policies are doing. You're saying that the equivalent of claiming Kwark supports killing Palestinian children is introvert/oblade/rayzda airing some grievance about left wing policies being harmful? The two are not even remotely similar. No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Huh? I have no idea where that just came from. How did you process my comment to arrive at that? Your attempt at "both sides-ing" this onto conservative posters. The definition of social justice warrioring I offered was engaging in ad hominem to attack posters in defense of some marginalized group. Examples: You call Kwark a racist because he points out the high fertility rate of Gaza Kwark calls you racist because you compare that high fertility rate to rabbits You call Kwark racist because he wants to mass deport migrants Kwark calls you racist because you want migrants to stay while not having legal protection from exploitation This sort of Twitter-esque shit flinging is entirely coming from posters left of center. It was tolerable back in the day when it was mostly just Sermokala making arguments like this but now it's half the forum.
Wait, I'm confused. The quarrel between KwarK and I is entirely unrelated to "social justice warrioring". It was never about any left vs right viewpoints. I felt harrassed by KwarK over the course of years and in response to that harrassment I eventually fought back, which got other people involved, after which I acted out and got banned. At no point did social justice stuff come into play. Our quarrel was distinct from any such things.
The reason why I accused KwarK of writing a racist comment was two-fold: one, it seemed racist to me. Whether I was right or wrong, that's not about social justice. Racism is not a right-wing exclusive phenomenon. Two, I felt compelled to bite back because as I explained I felt harrassed and didn't want to take it lying down anymore.
I'm trying to end this years long quarrel with KwarK. This is not political. It's personal.
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On August 13 2025 01:11 GreenHorizons wrote:I think a big part of the problem (besides what Drone mentioned previously) is that a lot of posters have a couple stereotypical ideas of politics outside of their personal Overton Windows rather than a comparable level of understanding to their own. If your politics haven't really changed since ~18, then that's not really a surprise, it is problematic though. Particularly when posters want to try to incessantly bicker like they do with someone like BJ. The idea that doing this is helping them win over people that might be amenable to the politics BJ or oBlade advocate otherwise is just wrong. If someone isn't already to these posters' left or also suffering from stockholm syndrome under Dems, then BJ and oBlade have been coming off as the more reasonable people in these petulant pissing matches. That's quite the accomplishment given their incoherent politics (as variations of libertarians).
For me I don't really advocate any kind of politics to convince people of. Not to mention anyway there's no election now, most of the thread are not US voters to begin with so it would be futile for anyone to recruit voters there, and I don't view the thread as a canvassing place for proselytizing.
On August 13 2025 03:04 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2025 00:05 oBlade wrote:
I am sick of reading posters shit on others based on their judgment of how much the accused has or hasn't talked (or allegedly even thought) about the right or wrong topics their whole life. In a thread where people eventually recognise the handful of regulars, and their general posting style, that’s going to naturally happen. If I ran into a TL poster’s point on some Reddit thread, under a different username or whatever, I’ll just assess that point on its own sakes. It’s just an argument in a vacuum, I have zero idea who’s saying it, or why, I can’t assess it in any other way. In an environment when most of us have years and years getting to know and observe other posters, I won’t necessarily. What one doesn’t say, or what one chooses to focus on topic wise does reveal things. The idea it does not is preposterous. Some may occasionally visit, we do have a StarCraft section. People know I’m a Toss enjoyer. Long-term posters also know I’ve been railing against Warp Gate for 15 years, and have consistently argued that Toss should be made harder to play at lower levels relatively speaking, and have a ceiling. And that I’ve frequently conceded that Toss has many frustrating mechanics to face if you play the other 2 factions. Somebody who’s aware of that will parse my thoughts on theoretical buffs and nerfs through that lens, because I’ve years of not demanding straight buffs behind me. Somebody who’s unaware of my posting history may see the Toss icon and conclude I’m biased and just want Toss to be stronger and argue with me on that basis. In small enough communities where you can recognise names, and start associating general positions with them, that additional context starts to very much come into play, and matter. Of course that’s going to happen, that’s how humans operate. That said for my part Ima take a bit of a break from such threads as I don’t think I’ve been particularly conducive to a good environment recently
Your analogy makes sense to a point. People can look at you through whatever lens they like.
However, you created two hypothetical groups with opposite biases that interpret your balance discussion in the exact opposite way. At least one of them must be wrong, and if they take it too far, how is the answer "aw shucks" and not that they need to knock it off?
Basically, there is a difference between
1) someone taking a specific thing you've said and questioning its consistency or inquiring again about the evolution of your balance theories or even challenging an alleged consequence of your balance proposals, and
2) someone reverting to the same tired unfounded shitting on a person every time you see them exist (or even when you didn't see them exist, just randomly bringing them up)
Especially 2) is usually justified by the first time you see someone, you make an assumption about them, and then every subsequent time, you fit them back into the first assumption, so it becomes something that was endlessly reinforced with no real justification, it just came from a baseless soul read and got repeated to proof by repetition.
Let me put it this way in your terms. If every time they saw you in a Protoss thread they derailed the entire thread into calling you a balance whiner or a no skill race or cheeser or whatever the kids are saying these days, they would not be long for this website, in my opinion. If you were actually balance whining, on the other hand, then it would be someone else's place to put a stop to you. In other words, you can argue all you want about the thing itself, but turning threads into discussions about posters instead of things is coopting and bullshit. It's the US Politics Mega-thread not the Mostly Not US People Call Each Other Tankies And Racists And So On Mega-thread. The subject is the subject. The posters are not the subject. Are they?
I will go a step further than saying obviously KwarK isn't racist and it was an unfounded line of discussion. I will go so far as to say I don't care if KwarK is racist or not and I don't come here to find out whether KwarK is racist or not or read about what poster he allegedly does or doesn't hate, or get Miss Cleo level psychic predictions of how and why he's racist. Or worse, watch someone tell a poster what that poster believes, who responds in detail why they're wrong and explains what they actually believe, then the accuser brags that they're not even reading what they say, then when told they're wrong, say there's no evidence and ask for evidence. After specifically saying they're not reading to begin with. (Just a recent example, not trying to relitigate KwarK.)
Certainly a specific thing someone says could be - for example - racist. That aside, I'm sick of reading about how everyone is this or that label in the thread when none of the people spreading the vitriol have any framework for their targets to un-bad-person themselves. Which is both unfair and means nothing ever goes anywhere. So they should just knock it off to begin with. Posters are, no offense, not an interesting subject. It's supposed to be (or it should be supposed to be) a discussion of things, not a lobby of infantile personal shit-flinging.
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This place has become a cesspool. Watching people condone/rejoice at someone being murdered for their supposed wrongthink is a level of depravity I was hoping I wouldn't see here, although I'm not entirely surprised by it after Luigi. I don't even really blame the people posting it like MP or Kwark. I'm pretty sure MP has said he picked his username because he actually believed he had magic powers so I suspect he is neurodivergent which is why he often has very unique takes on things. And Kwark is perhaps a walking definition of chronically online so it's easy to see how he could become radicalized. But there's plenty of reasonable people here that I can list that are conspicuously quiet when their peers are condoning murder for people whose crimes they couldn't elaborate beyond flailing their arms in the air and screaming "Nazi!"
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On September 11 2025 15:53 BlackJack wrote:
This place has become a cesspool. Watching people condone/rejoice at someone being murdered for their supposed wrongthink is a level of depravity I was hoping I wouldn't see here, although I'm not entirely surprised by it after Luigi. I don't even really blame the people posting it like MP or Kwark. I'm pretty sure MP has said he picked his username because he actually believed he had magic powers so I suspect he is neurodivergent which is why he often has very unique takes on things. And Kwark is perhaps a walking definition of chronically online so it's easy to see how he could become radicalized. But there's plenty of reasonable people here that I can list that are conspicuously quiet when their peers are condoning murder for people whose crimes they couldn't elaborate beyond flailing their arms in the air and screaming "Nazi!"
Charlie's family has my sympathies.
Charlie does not. If that makes you view me as a heartless monster, that's your prerogative. I know my values, and I will not express sympathy for him. His death is meaningless to me, but I am celebrating the fact that there will now be less far-right propaganda because he's gone. That isn't the same thing as celebrating his death. I'd prefer if he had voluntarily ended his career as a right-wing extremist, but instead he kept going until someone else did it for him.
Unlike Luigi's case - which I argued was self-defense and therefore justified, and people gave me shit for that, but I will stand by what I said - I don't think that Charlie's case was self-defense, because he wasn't directly responsible for people's deaths, he just propagated extreme views that would cause an emotional response which could then lead to death. Therefore he wasn't guilty of murder, and therefore killing him was not self-defense. At least that's my current view, I'm not completely sure what my stance is quite yet.
This place is not a cesspool, no. The cesspool is Trump's supporters. They asked for extremism, they got extremism, and now they're surprised they got extremism. I mock their surprise and I mock their attempts at shaming us. There's no reason to be surprised, and I know crocodile tears when I see them. They didn't express any sympathies for immigrants under ICE's massive wave of illegal abductions, they also don't care to do anything about school shootings, etc. Why should I believe their crocodile tears now? It's obvious they're just using Charlie's death to pretend that they're kindhearted and civilized people. I'm calling their bluff.
I'm pretty sure MP has said he picked his username because he actually believed he had magic powers so I suspect he is neurodivergent which is why he often has very unique takes on things
Not sure what that has to do with anything and I feel like it's worthy of reporting your comment, so that's what I'm going to do.
I am definitely neurotypical, but more importantly your suspicion is ridiculous. Neurotypical people believe in magic just as much as neurodivergent people do.
I'll also correct your statement rather than just report your comment: I used to believe that I had magic powers, and that's where the name comes from. It's a nod to my old self, because I cherish the days when magic felt real to me. The magic is gone, but I don't want to forget those days because they were beautiful.
In short, my behavior has nothing to do with neurodivergence or with my name.
I'm asking you to not resort to personal attacks next time. Not that there's anything wrong with neurodivergent people to begin with. Under different circumstances I would call you a bigot, but I'm guessing your suspicion stems from ignorance about the indicators of neurodivergence. I'll ask you to educate yourself.
Cheers.
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On September 11 2025 15:53 BlackJack wrote:
This place has become a cesspool. Watching people condone/rejoice at someone being murdered for their supposed wrongthink is a level of depravity I was hoping I wouldn't see here, although I'm not entirely surprised by it after Luigi. I don't even really blame the people posting it like MP or Kwark. I'm pretty sure MP has said he picked his username because he actually believed he had magic powers so I suspect he is neurodivergent which is why he often has very unique takes on things. And Kwark is perhaps a walking definition of chronically online so it's easy to see how he could become radicalized. But there's plenty of reasonable people here that I can list that are conspicuously quiet when their peers are condoning murder for people whose crimes they couldn't elaborate beyond flailing their arms in the air and screaming "Nazi!"
what do you expect from a bunch of individuals that invest considerable amount of effort and time into debating politics with strangers on a forum thats original purpose is to discuss starcraft. it takes a special kind of person to want to waste that much energy on politics on a gaming forum rofl.
yeah i said it. if the majority of your current activity on tl is in the us pol, palestine, ukraine or europe threads youre a weirdo.
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On September 11 2025 19:22 evilfatsh1t wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 15:53 BlackJack wrote:
This place has become a cesspool. Watching people condone/rejoice at someone being murdered for their supposed wrongthink is a level of depravity I was hoping I wouldn't see here, although I'm not entirely surprised by it after Luigi. I don't even really blame the people posting it like MP or Kwark. I'm pretty sure MP has said he picked his username because he actually believed he had magic powers so I suspect he is neurodivergent which is why he often has very unique takes on things. And Kwark is perhaps a walking definition of chronically online so it's easy to see how he could become radicalized. But there's plenty of reasonable people here that I can list that are conspicuously quiet when their peers are condoning murder for people whose crimes they couldn't elaborate beyond flailing their arms in the air and screaming "Nazi!" what do you expect from a bunch of individuals that invest considerable amount of effort and time into debating politics with strangers on a forum thats original purpose is to discuss starcraft. it takes a special kind of person to want to waste that much energy on politics on a gaming forum rofl. yeah i said it. if the majority of your current activity on tl is in the us pol, palestine, ukraine or europe threads youre a weirdo.
How very dare you, guilty as charged :p
In my defence I’ve been a politics nerd for forever, and nuked most of me socials/many platforms I never even joined, as I find discourse in most other avenues insufferable. Gotta get my fix somewhere!
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I very much didn’t want it to get to this point. Kirk worked every day to bring things to this point against the advice of people who wanted to preserve the rules and basic decency. I’m not happy that we’re here, plenty of people who don’t deserve it are suffering as a result of us being here.
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On September 11 2025 21:32 KwarK wrote:
I very much didn’t want it to get to this point. Kirk worked every day to bring things to this point against the advice of people who wanted to preserve the rules and basic decency. I’m not happy that we’re here, plenty of people who don’t deserve it are suffering as a result of us being here.
Plenty of people that have never been protected by "basic decency", they just weren't affluent, straight, white, cis, "family" men, so it wasn't perceived as such a threat to society at large. Particularly by white men.
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On September 11 2025 21:40 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 21:32 KwarK wrote:
I very much didn’t want it to get to this point. Kirk worked every day to bring things to this point against the advice of people who wanted to preserve the rules and basic decency. I’m not happy that we’re here, plenty of people who don’t deserve it are suffering as a result of us being here. Plenty of people that have never been protected by "basic decency", they just weren't affluent, straight, white, cis, "family" men, so it wasn't perceived as such a threat to society at large. Particularly by white men.
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On September 11 2025 15:53 BlackJack wrote:
This place has become a cesspool. Watching people condone/rejoice at someone being murdered for their supposed wrongthink is a level of depravity I was hoping I wouldn't see here, although I'm not entirely surprised by it after Luigi. I don't even really blame the people posting it like MP or Kwark. I'm pretty sure MP has said he picked his username because he actually believed he had magic powers so I suspect he is neurodivergent which is why he often has very unique takes on things. And Kwark is perhaps a walking definition of chronically online so it's easy to see how he could become radicalized. But there's plenty of reasonable people here that I can list that are conspicuously quiet when their peers are condoning murder for people whose crimes they couldn't elaborate beyond flailing their arms in the air and screaming "Nazi!"
"Nazi!" seems like a pretty good reason, as far as reasons go there are few that are better.
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On September 11 2025 15:53 BlackJack wrote:
This place has become a cesspool. Watching people condone/rejoice at someone being murdered for their supposed wrongthink is a level of depravity I was hoping I wouldn't see here, although I'm not entirely surprised by it after Luigi. I don't even really blame the people posting it like MP or Kwark. I'm pretty sure MP has said he picked his username because he actually believed he had magic powers so I suspect he is neurodivergent which is why he often has very unique takes on things. And Kwark is perhaps a walking definition of chronically online so it's easy to see how he could become radicalized. But there's plenty of reasonable people here that I can list that are conspicuously quiet when their peers are condoning murder for people whose crimes they couldn't elaborate beyond flailing their arms in the air and screaming "Nazi!"
If you’d said to me a few days ago, ‘should Charlie Kirk be shot?’ I would have said no. But as he was shot, completely independent of my involvement, I’m not going to shed crocodile tears for a person who made their crust in being divisive thru outright dishonest in stoking the flames.
You’ve played devil’s advocate on obviously inflammatory rhetoric for years, I’m not sure why you think you have any kind of leg to stand on here.
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BlackJack deciding that nobody can articulate why they don’t like Charlie Kirk doesn’t mean that nobody can, he just likes making assertions he thinks will strengthen his argument. BlackJack can’t do anything but flail his arms and shout Nazi.
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At the very least we've managed to find a school shooting that Republicans care about
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From the Israel thread:
On September 20 2025 03:43 Billyboy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2025 03:20 WombaT wrote:On September 20 2025 00:36 Billyboy wrote:On September 19 2025 21:44 Jankisa wrote:States go as far as the other, more powerful states allow them to. Russia invaded Ukraine and Israel took note. Trump did January 6th and got away with it and understood that blatant political violence is now tolerated. Every step of the way humans have been under-reacting to insane shit, and now we are in a state where tens of thousands defenseless people who have nothing to do with Hamas are being slaughtered while people on forums make comparisons to WW2 and argue semantics. People voted for this, people in Israel voted for Nethyanahu and Smotrich and Ben Gvir, I can't do much, but I will not look at Israeli's in the same way ever again. People voted for Putin, time after time after time, they voted for him after he leveled Grozny, they voted for him after he seized Crimea and his "rebbels" downed an airplane full of Europeans, they voted for him after he left hundreds of sailors die horrible deaths in Kursk submarine disaster. People in the US voted for Trump after he was convicted for sexual assault, they voted for him after 2 impeachments and January 6th, they voted for him despite him being "best friends with Epstein". I'll always have love in my life for individuals, but if you are someone I work with, be it American, Israeli or Russian, I will judge you based on who you voted for, and if you voted for this I will work with you but I will have no respect for you and will actively work to distance myself as much as possible from you and yours. You guys can keep on yelling Hamas this, Hamas, that, but the vast majority of Palestinians who are dying every fucking day did not vote for this, the last elections in Gaza were held in 2006, all the children and most adults in Gaza (median age is 18) weren't even alive then. This is not about Hamas, they tried to negotiate, they tried to find a way where they survive and give hostages back, there was a done ceasefire deal, Israel broke it. This all could have been over since May 5th. Israel decided against it, because of their, according to most experts, unachievable goal of exterminating an organization that with every murdered child, every tank shell hitting a hospital and killing nurses, responders and journalist, every bomb in a refugee camp, every child sniped at a food gathering point gets more and more recruits. It's a perpetual conflict, and Israel wants it like that. This is not about humans being broken, it's about a number of broken humans trying to kill as many of "the enemy" as they can while caring about absolutely nothing else. There is so much wrong with this post and much of what you post, but you really jumped the shark with Putin being democratically elected. Whatever media you are consuming you need to stop. You might already be to far gone, but if there is hope it will require you to stop all social media and youtube. Good luck! Where did they say Putin was democratically elected? This is what he said, after saying the same about Israel, unless he doesn't think Israel is a democracy. Like what are you reading? Show nested quote +People voted for Putin, time after time after time, they voted for him after he leveled Grozny, they voted for him after he seized Crimea and his "rebbels" downed an airplane full of Europeans, they voted for him after he left hundreds of sailors die horrible deaths in Kursk submarine disaster.
And I mean most of his posts in this thread are just filled with shit he just plain makes up [personal attack on Janiska]. Like Hamas is so disorganized they couldn't have even planned this attack it is just lone terror cells working on their own. This is just pure head cannon he creates to justify his position [Personal attack on Janiska]. And not only is it false, Hamas even has communication people. But it would counter his whole argument that Hamas was negotiating until this attack. How could a disorganized set of terror cells have any sort of negotiation? They couldn't deliver on anything, nor could they even do it. He has a totally warped version of how this relates to Ukraine and Russia, basically the opposite of every Ukrainian war blogger. [Personal attack on Janiska]He has no basis of reality when it comes to this topic, just spewing hate [personal attack on Janiska]. KT said nothing remotely pro Israel, and when I read it, I was like " shit guy is about to be attacked by the ghouls for not hating hard enough". I was saying it tongue and cheek, but then in it comes [personal attack on Janiska]. It is impossible to have an actual conversation on this thread unless all you want to talk about is how evil and awful Israel is and how they also would be even more evil if they could [Attacking basically everyone in the thread]. Heck if you even talk bad about Hamas you get attacked. [victim narrative about being attacked all the time lol]And of course, you are there to jump in and attack first chance you get. So that is fun too. [more of the victim stuff]
Maybe Billy, if your posts weren't so full of personal attacks on other people, you wouldn't feel so attacked in response whenever anyone replies to you.
And before you go through the routine, yes yes I'm sure pointing this out makes me the problem and I'm sure that everything that's wrong on this forum is because of people like me blah blah blah.
Maybe just have a little think about why all of your conversations end up like this and why you feel so terribly victimised all the time, and then look up at all the personal attacks you use in a regular everyday post. Surely you can see the link.
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On September 20 2025 10:59 Jockmcplop wrote:From the Israel thread: Show nested quote +On September 20 2025 03:43 Billyboy wrote:On September 20 2025 03:20 WombaT wrote:On September 20 2025 00:36 Billyboy wrote:On September 19 2025 21:44 Jankisa wrote:States go as far as the other, more powerful states allow them to. Russia invaded Ukraine and Israel took note. Trump did January 6th and got away with it and understood that blatant political violence is now tolerated. Every step of the way humans have been under-reacting to insane shit, and now we are in a state where tens of thousands defenseless people who have nothing to do with Hamas are being slaughtered while people on forums make comparisons to WW2 and argue semantics. People voted for this, people in Israel voted for Nethyanahu and Smotrich and Ben Gvir, I can't do much, but I will not look at Israeli's in the same way ever again. People voted for Putin, time after time after time, they voted for him after he leveled Grozny, they voted for him after he seized Crimea and his "rebbels" downed an airplane full of Europeans, they voted for him after he left hundreds of sailors die horrible deaths in Kursk submarine disaster. People in the US voted for Trump after he was convicted for sexual assault, they voted for him after 2 impeachments and January 6th, they voted for him despite him being "best friends with Epstein". I'll always have love in my life for individuals, but if you are someone I work with, be it American, Israeli or Russian, I will judge you based on who you voted for, and if you voted for this I will work with you but I will have no respect for you and will actively work to distance myself as much as possible from you and yours. You guys can keep on yelling Hamas this, Hamas, that, but the vast majority of Palestinians who are dying every fucking day did not vote for this, the last elections in Gaza were held in 2006, all the children and most adults in Gaza (median age is 18) weren't even alive then. This is not about Hamas, they tried to negotiate, they tried to find a way where they survive and give hostages back, there was a done ceasefire deal, Israel broke it. This all could have been over since May 5th. Israel decided against it, because of their, according to most experts, unachievable goal of exterminating an organization that with every murdered child, every tank shell hitting a hospital and killing nurses, responders and journalist, every bomb in a refugee camp, every child sniped at a food gathering point gets more and more recruits. It's a perpetual conflict, and Israel wants it like that. This is not about humans being broken, it's about a number of broken humans trying to kill as many of "the enemy" as they can while caring about absolutely nothing else. There is so much wrong with this post and much of what you post, but you really jumped the shark with Putin being democratically elected. Whatever media you are consuming you need to stop. You might already be to far gone, but if there is hope it will require you to stop all social media and youtube. Good luck! Where did they say Putin was democratically elected? This is what he said, after saying the same about Israel, unless he doesn't think Israel is a democracy. Like what are you reading? People voted for Putin, time after time after time, they voted for him after he leveled Grozny, they voted for him after he seized Crimea and his "rebbels" downed an airplane full of Europeans, they voted for him after he left hundreds of sailors die horrible deaths in Kursk submarine disaster.
And I mean most of his posts in this thread are just filled with shit he just plain makes up [personal attack on Janiska]. Like Hamas is so disorganized they couldn't have even planned this attack it is just lone terror cells working on their own. This is just pure head cannon he creates to justify his position [Personal attack on Janiska]. And not only is it false, Hamas even has communication people. But it would counter his whole argument that Hamas was negotiating until this attack. How could a disorganized set of terror cells have any sort of negotiation? They couldn't deliver on anything, nor could they even do it. He has a totally warped version of how this relates to Ukraine and Russia, basically the opposite of every Ukrainian war blogger. [Personal attack on Janiska]He has no basis of reality when it comes to this topic, just spewing hate [personal attack on Janiska]. KT said nothing remotely pro Israel, and when I read it, I was like " shit guy is about to be attacked by the ghouls for not hating hard enough". I was saying it tongue and cheek, but then in it comes [personal attack on Janiska]. It is impossible to have an actual conversation on this thread unless all you want to talk about is how evil and awful Israel is and how they also would be even more evil if they could [Attacking basically everyone in the thread]. Heck if you even talk bad about Hamas you get attacked. [victim narrative about being attacked all the time lol]And of course, you are there to jump in and attack first chance you get. So that is fun too. [more of the victim stuff] Maybe Billy, if your posts weren't so full of personal attacks on other people, you wouldn't feel so attacked in response whenever anyone replies to you. And before you go through the routine, yes yes I'm sure pointing this out makes me the problem and I'm sure that everything that's wrong on this forum is because of people like me blah blah blah. Maybe just have a little think about why all of your conversations end up like this and why you feel so terribly victimised all the time, and then look up at all the personal attacks you use in a regular everyday post. Surely you can see the link.
Very on brand for you to completely miss the point and make shit up.
For the 100th time, IDGAF about you or your fellow ghouls who follow me around and try to get in your takedowns (special shout out to wombat, that was some super cringe unintentional comedy, I hope he wishes he deleted that one too).
Just stop being such cry babies when it comes back at you. Kwark corrected me the other day, and I didn't get all mad, because I was wrong. I mean I do not care at all about spelling, but others do and it was clearly irking him and more than that he was correct and I was wrong.
In this current little, whatever it is, the guy I actually responded too is not the one all mad. It is the ghouls who jumped in and made up some position that they are really really sure I have, even though they never seem to be able quote me having it. And at the end of the day my correction was correct. The negotiators were not hit and even none of the delegation was killed or injured. Normal humans would just move on, or pivot to something along the lines of, but it won't be in good faith because of xyz. I'd likely talk about why it was never in good faith, and we would have a good old fashion conversation instead of the social media style screeching you and your fellow ghouls love.
On the bonus of things I was thinking in the shower how much you, wombat and the like have helped to understand all the meme's and stories girls have about nice guys. It is amazing how self righteous you all still feel even when the thin veneer of niceness quickly disappears and the ugly screechy insecure rage pops up.
TLDR, I'd rather just have conversations, ideally with interesting people who have taken the time to actually know the facts on topics they passionately post about. But I'm also OK with jumping in the mud with you. Just understand that if you throw the first punch you are not the good guy or the victim, you're one of the combatants and deal with it.
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Anyone remember when everyone was sure I was the reason JimmiC's posting was so obliviously shitty?
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