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On June 02 2020 09:16 Seeker wrote:
We already gave out our free TL+ for the day. Come back tomorrow, Mr. Tryhard.
There would be no TL+ if women didn't have nipples. Checkmate, atheist.
On June 02 2020 09:18 Firebolt145 wrote:
I'm okay with this becoming a nipple thread.
Me too. While photo evidence is unfortunately and clearly out of the question, I believe that delving into this data will allow us to understand the purpose of data in conversation as a whole.
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While it is certainly overly optimistic to expect the same level of investigation as what was levied against Xxio, I would like genuine feedback from TL's staff concerning the exposition of one of its users as a misogynist based on the statistics they cited. Thank you for your time and consideration.
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38.1 mm to 28.0 mm? >63% contribution despite <50% of population? AS MANY AS 19 NIPPLES? I can feel the palace of my assumptions crashing down around me. Truly, today I have seen -nay, lived - the highs and lows of TL membership.
I have a guess who my secret mod admirer was, but I choose to believe it was xDaunt.
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On June 02 2020 10:08 ChristianS wrote:
38.1 mm to 28.0 mm? >63% contribution despite <50% of population? AS MANY AS 19 NIPPLES? I can feel the palace of my assumptions crashing down around me. Truly, today I have seen -nay, lived - the highs and lows of TL membership.
I have a guess who my secret mod admirer was, but I choose to believe it was xDaunt.
You should be ashamed of yourself for presenting such unilaterally biased statistics without presenting an opinion or interpretation of your own, misogynist.
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On June 02 2020 10:08 ChristianS wrote:
38.1 mm to 28.0 mm? >63% contribution despite <50% of population? AS MANY AS 19 NIPPLES? I can feel the palace of my assumptions crashing down around me. Truly, today I have seen -nay, lived - the highs and lows of TL membership.
I have a guess who my secret mod admirer was, but I choose to believe it was xDaunt.
xDaunt was only a writer for TL. He never had mod permissions. Sorry to kill the dream :/
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I also think a reading list would be an excessively good idea.
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On June 07 2020 06:44 Nebuchad wrote:
I also think a reading list would be an excessively good idea.
I would enjoy you returning to the thread but also am considering just walking away myself. Kinda feels like when I realized I had outgrown the McDonalds playplace.
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Lol and who says he doesn't hold us all in contempt.
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On June 07 2020 13:10 IgnE wrote:
ouch GH
Well, you don't drop gems like this very often anymore, and I miss them.
On June 07 2020 12:57 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2020 12:34 Mohdoo wrote:On June 07 2020 12:30 Sermokala wrote:On June 07 2020 11:53 Mohdoo wrote:On June 07 2020 11:41 Sermokala wrote:On June 07 2020 09:24 StalkerTL wrote:On June 07 2020 06:18 Danglars wrote:On June 07 2020 04:57 Sermokala wrote:
It should be acknowledged about how shit of a job being a cop is and why its impossible to recruit people for an inherently mentally and emotionally damaging job. The pay is terrible the training is minimal theres no institutional accountability and everyone you meet hates you.
Half of them or more have to work nights and never see their families and are constantly squeezed by cut budgets and obliged overtime. Then when they see dead bodies or have to tell a family member their kid or parent is dead the only people they can talk to is other cops.
Police departments need a lot more money and to expect people to serve a lot fewer roles. You can renovate the house a lot quicker and a lot cheaper then just burning it down. It does suck for the good cops. It is a very trying job. Every call has potential danger, and all the blood and gore must wear. The trouble with the current era of reform is the police's image. It's all George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Eric Gardner etc. It's all Buffalo, NYPD, LAPD, Minneapolis, DC(mix of agencies) acting cruel towards protesters and journalists. No amount of money spent gives anyone the idea that it will be spent well. Bad cops can be virtually unfirable and tarnish the name of the others. They also get the increased pay and/or benefits. I don't want police pay to increase until politicians and unions change their behavior to confront the lapses. I'm opposed to abolishing and starting over except as a means to put more options of reforming what's currently there on the table. The main reforms should be decertifying the worst police unions ( See one writeup here) and changing legislatively/judicially the doctrine of qualified immunity ( Bipartisan Legislation is currently being introduced, will hopefully be debated soon.Dissolving police departments in this heat of passion can end very very badly. Particularly for minority businesses and minority residences. I completely agree. I think dissolving police departments without having a future plan of maintaining a civil society is pretty rash. However, I do completely agree with the idea that police departments have to be wiped out at this point because it is clear that the good apples can’t do anything about the bad apples. Like that NYPD cop that refused to arrest innocent people to meet quotas only to get hazed and bullied to the point of getting illegitimately sent to a mental asylum. A lot of these police departments need to be rebuilt like a bad NBA team where you ditch the GM, coach and roster because the situation is untenable. Thats not how you rebuild a bad NBA team at all. Thats not how you rebuild any bad team at all. You replace the GM and coaches but you rebuild from there. You can't just hire players off the street and expect that you'll do better then you were doing before. And yet 57 people all showed solidarity with the bags of dirt associated with the old man's assault. You aren't recognizing that there is a very large number of extremely bad people in police forces right now. They joined because of what being a police officer is in our current culture. They need to go. You mistake the issue at hand. If we are continuing with the "NBA team rebuild" concept the issue with the team isn't the terrible performing players or the coaches but the fundamental culture within the team. They didn't stop to help the guy when he was on the ground because they weren't told to when they were being trained and their "coach" never told them to help people. One or two people are a problem of people 57 people is a problem with a team. I think the issue was the culture/leadership *at first*. But over the last however many years, police forces have attracted fundamentally terrible people who will never be good people. I reject the idea that those 57 people were just the victims of hierarchy. It isn't just police institutions that are bad, the institution is so bad that it attracts people who have always been bad. It's a corrupting institution for a variety of reasons. It attracts assholes and petty tyrants, but it also molds good people into cops.
I know posters like you, farv, neb, and others could foster a stimulating and enlightening political discussion, but you guys gave up on that to encourage coddling some obsequious neophytes that still seem pretty intransigent imo.
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Well? What's keeping you from walking? Step.
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On June 07 2020 14:11 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Well? What's keeping you from walking? Step.
optimistic that the moment will encourage folks to step up and slap down the non-sense. To a degree I've seen it, but when I looked back to get that BLM comment I was reminded of how long it took to come such little distance.
Part of the comparison to the playplace is that it was still fun for years after I had outgrown it. Watching a bunch of people like yourself pull a dog catching the car recently was fun for example.
To be clear, this isn't much different than calls for a political philosophy thread. It's just a different framing of the problems and solutions.
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On June 07 2020 14:15 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2020 14:11 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Well? What's keeping you from walking? Step. optimistic that the moment will encourage folks to step up and slap down the non-sense. To a degree I've seen it, but when I looked back to get that BLM comment I was reminded of how long it took to come such little distance. Part of the comparison to the playplace is that it was still fun for years after I had outgrown it. Watching a bunch of people like yourself pull a dog catching the car recently was fun for example.
Like myself? Interesting. As you choose what words to use in order to make a salient point, only to be proven to be inaccurate. Uldridge, Train, ChristianS, and others answered your call to what they considered to be roles of the police. And you offered nothing of your own. People sided with you that reforming the police was a necessary step and when it came out that they were defunding or disbanding instead of abolishing, where were you? Sulking? You got some pats on the back. How did that make you feel? Good huh?
I've tried to understand your point. I've agreed in principle on certain things. But if dodging answering questions was dodgeball, you'd be a professional. You can tell people to go read or to go search for the answer themselves and relieve yourself of the burden. But you broached the topic. You have a duty to answer those questions and if people aren't understanding, then you need to figure out why you're not communicating effectively with them.
Throwing temper tantrums when IgnE or farvacola decide to admonish you in the slightest is childish. You seem ready to throw mud but cannot bear when it is turned back at you.
I can applaud Nebuchad for taking hours of his time explaining his positions, even if I don't necessarily share the same sentiments. There are others that take the time and explain themselves, but you're too enlightened and above it all. You can't be bothered with the minutiae of it all because if people don't already agree with you, they're "obsequious neophytes that seem intransigent."
Why do you think you get so many people on your case? Why do you think people take pages and pages of discussing with you in seemingly good faith? You're not as intelligent as you think you are. And you sure as hell don't hold authority over anyone. So either respond to people in the thread when you introduce a topic, or just don't. It's that simple.
And before you even think of calling this whining, I'd say the same thing to any and every person in that thread if they pulled half of what you do.
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I wouldn't group uld, train, or christianS, with you. If anything, they were refreshing to read. Those posts from them weren't really for me though.
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On June 07 2020 14:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
I wouldn't group uld, train, or christianS, with you. If anything, they were refreshing to read. Those posts from them weren't really for me though.
I look forward to you no longer posting in the thread since no one is on your level. Good evening sir.
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On June 07 2020 14:50 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2020 14:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
I wouldn't group uld, train, or christianS, with you. If anything, they were refreshing to read. Those posts from them weren't really for me though. I look forward to you no longer posting in the thread since no one is on your level. Good evening sir.
Basically the opposite of what I was saying.
I'm pretty much commending the people like mohdoo and others for their demonstrated (and self-recognized) growth, showing appreciation for their aiding in my growth and chiding my 'elders' in farv and IgnE for their lamentation that I'm not conforming to their expectations.
Those posts from train, uld, and especially christianS were for people like yourself and a point I was making is that despite their effort it didn't click at all for you (an experience I'm familiar with). Another point was that the people for which it did (or wasn't necessary) should not-so-politely confirm your error or whatever if they don't like how I handle it. Much like the blm stuff, they've seen me say this stuff for years so it's time to stop being silent on this stuff too imo.
ChristianS post was particularly on point so it was a good sign, but that the audience it was intended for is probably processing it much like yourself is not. Do enjoy your night though.
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I’m flattered!
GH, I think the thread would be far less worthwhile without you (I’m not sure whether I’d stick around) but I’ve also often wondered how you find the time for it. Seems like you’re involved in some actual movement stuff (rent strikes, protests) and all of that seems way more important than stuff like explaining to puppykiller why he would not be the savior of the black race if only the movement didn’t put him off in xyz ways.
In other words, not unlike Kwark, I enjoy your posts and would miss them, but if you think walking away from the thread would be better for your head/less wasteful of time and energy, I probably agree.
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fwiw I was both appreciative of and impressed by your restraint prior to now.
@ChristianS, I do hope people pick up where you left off at some point. People are getting a crash course in abolition all over the internet and I think your post and the FAQ from Tomato are great places for people to start.
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