US Politics Feedback Thread - Page 144

On May 16 2018 05:12 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I added "(Or anti religion whatever.) " as we all know that Islam is not a race, and I know Danglars would snarkily write just that. As it is, Danglars just can't help himself.

On May 16 2018 05:24 Kickboxer wrote:
It's pretty safe to say they see themselves as distinct from other human beings, "chosen" etc.

Seems like a guaranteed way to behave shitty to other cultures as well as get pummeled every century or so. Which is exactly what tends to happen.

Right now practically no one apart from the US military industrial complex likes Israel and they've had the entire world on their side by default just a couple decades ago.

On May 16 2018 05:09 Liquid`Drone wrote:
While I've staunchly been on the 'less moderation is better and be careful not to alienate one side of the discussion', I'm 100% supportive of that xdaunt ban. That's a complete piece of shit thing to say, 'wanting to equalize the narrative' or whatever notwithstanding. I did not see leftists argue that the jews deserve to or want to die. This is you being worse than the other side, not equal. And you can do better. If this is how you want to post, then good riddance.

On May 16 2018 05:25 Danglars wrote:

My response depended entirely on Hamas’s relationship with the Muslim faith, so I’m still boggled to why you’re ignoring the substance of the response.

On May 16 2018 04:57 Danglars wrote:
Hamas is a very special case since their charter literally says it’s the religion of Islam that will bring about the destruction of Israel. The organization makes repeated reference to the religion in achieving their goals, so calling this some religion-bashing exercise is tantamount to saying Christianity within the crusades is religion bashing.

On May 16 2018 05:36 xDaunt wrote: I very clearly stated that those Palestinians wanted to die -- which is a factual statement. Not just some opinion that I pulled out of my ass. .

On May 16 2018 05:44 Dangermousecatdog wrote:



Sorry Danglars, I'm not interested in your post-truth posts. You write that I ignore the substance of your post, when I am directly responding to the substance of your post. Your denial of what you say and do; the way that words seem to have no meaning to you. It's mind boggling. You can simply out endure me in post frequency so you don't recant. How many times can you repeat this cycle?

On May 16 2018 05:36 xDaunt wrote:

Let's just break this down a little. First, I did not say that the "Palestinians deserve to die." So let's just take that one off the table. So let's focus on this "want to die" business. I very clearly stated that those Palestinians wanted to die -- which is a factual statement. Not just some opinion that I pulled out of my ass. No one says that the Jews "want to die" because there's no credible factual evidence to support it. This is clearly not the case for the Palestinians, who have a rich and storied history of martyring themselves against Israel and, in this instance, were harassing a fortified Israeli military position. There's only two reasonable explanations for why they might do the latter. The first is that the Palestinians were looking to martyr themselves for PR purposes. The second is that the Palestinians were insane. It's pretty clear to me which of those is more likely. Why you or the rest of TL feel the need to coddle everyone from this hard truth is beyond me.

If you want to take issue with the crassness of my tone, go ahead. Just know we're back to the issue of the moderation team inventing new standards for conservative posters. And even then, I'd suggest that a warning would have been appropriate given new rules are being made up on the fly. But the thrust of your post above is utter nonsense.

On May 16 2018 06:16 Liquid`Drone wrote:


Even if you genuinely believe that Hamas wants palestinians to die for PR purposes (there's some logic behind this, if this was your statement I wouldn't have that big of an issue with it) the statement that kids who throw rocks and end up being shot dead for it wanted to die is abhorrent. Even through the best possible efforts I can make to read and understand your post in an as sympathetic light as possible, it's stands out as completely unreasonable and deliberately inflammatory in a way that does not have a leftist counterpart. I genuinely get the frustration you and other conservatives have felt through the perception that leftist statements of similar toxicity going unactioned while conservatives have to thread on eggshells. I've reflected upon how personal political biases among myself and the other staff makes it likely for this to be a real occurrence. But this is not that. To be fair I haven't read the past 3 pages of the megathread so maybe there has been a similarly callous post, but there certainly wasn't by the time you posted that.

On May 16 2018 06:44 xDaunt wrote:


Again, what are you really taking issue with? The fact that this is happening or the fact I dared point it out? I certainly get that you don't like the idea of kids being shot. I don't like it either. But the sad reality is that Palestinians are filling their kids with so much hatred for Israel (and like I pointed out previously, they certainly have cause for doing so) that their kids actually do think that it is a good idea to martyr themselves for their nation. Why else would they be out there attacking an Israeli military position? This is very clearly why Nikki Haley bailed when the Palestinians got up to protest at the UN, which I basically pointed out after getting tired of seeing all the torrent of posts of indignant leftists who apparently couldn't fathom why she'd get up and leave.

And while I appreciate that you "genuinely get the frustration" that I and other conservative posters have with the moderation, I would be remiss to not point out that what you (and most likely the rest of the mods) really seem to be taking issue with is the actual conservative position on this issue of the Palestinians getting shot. In fact, your comments make that point far more explicit than Seeker's ban explanation did.

EDIT: As an aside, perhaps now you better understand why I said that the Palestinians should go fuck themselves -- just look at what they're doing to their children.

On May 16 2018 07:00 Plansix wrote:
Pretty sure it’s living in the open air prison with no economy for close to a decade that pissed them off. Or the endless check points. Or the settlements.

But yeah, fuck the people reduced to throwing rocks at soldiers who won’t let them leave their open air prison. Soldiers allowed to use leather force in a manner that would land a US soldier in prison for murder.

Your attempts to walk back your original, ban worthy post are kinda sad. Just own your inflammatory post and the ban it earned. Don’t whine about it.

On May 16 2018 06:16 Liquid`Drone wrote:


Even if you genuinely believe that Hamas wants palestinians to die for PR purposes (there's some logic behind this, if this was your statement I wouldn't have that big of an issue with it) the statement that kids who throw rocks and end up being shot dead for it wanted to die is abhorrent. Even through the best possible efforts I can make to read and understand your post in an as sympathetic light as possible, it's stands out as completely unreasonable and deliberately inflammatory in a way that does not have a leftist counterpart. I genuinely get the frustration you and other conservatives have felt through the perception that leftist statements of similar toxicity going unactioned while conservatives have to thread on eggshells. I've reflected upon how personal political biases among myself and the other staff makes it likely for this to be a real occurrence. But this is not that. To be fair I haven't read the past 3 pages of the megathread so maybe there has been a similarly callous post, but there certainly wasn't by the time you posted that.