EPTUS Politics Feedback Thread - Page 146
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Dangermousecatdog
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farvacola
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Plansix
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iamthedave
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On May 17 2018 20:48 Plansix wrote: Can confirm. Straight up told him never to PM me again months ago. He was a little salty with me when I backtalked his Abolish the Police ramblings, too, but I never saw need to report. What did he PM you about? | ||
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Plansix
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Seeker
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Plansix
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LegalLord
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On May 17 2018 23:32 Seeker wrote: Can someone link me to the post or posts where a user on TL is advocating for ethnic cleansing? I need to take a closer look at those. It was largely an aggressive reaction to people advocating persistently for mass deportation. Happened months ago and I don’t think he ever let it go. | ||
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Plansix
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zlefin
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On May 17 2018 23:32 Seeker wrote: Can someone link me to the post or posts where a user on TL is advocating for ethnic cleansing? I need to take a closer look at those. the original case that happened months ago? or the recent border-line ish ones? just asking to clarify for others; I don't have the links for either, only a vague sense of where to look. | ||
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LegalLord
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Seeker
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Gorsameth
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On May 18 2018 00:50 Seeker wrote: If he wants you to look at it surely he can provide a link OoGH wants me to take a closer look at it. IDK where to look though. | ||
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LegalLord
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On May 18 2018 00:50 Seeker wrote: GH wants me to take a closer look at it. IDK where to look though. Start here. | ||
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IgnE
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On May 17 2018 15:59 xM(Z wrote: (first: to me, desire = a wish or longing; craving, more implied than articulated; primal. if i have the wrong meaning then i don't know, suggest another word.) second, i won't even touch on the homo economicus bit because it defeats your whole argument then i can't nitpick at it+ Show Spoiler + even if we go with what the wiki has here, self-interested agents who usually pursue their subjectively-defined ends optimally. there's no way you can show how back and forth fighting then running for cover is an optimal way to pursue ones death.i think that i understand your post(for the most part), but you're interchangeably mixing two contexts: i desire/urge to die(a.k.a., the unconscious of the oppressed) vs i have the right to die(a.k.a., liberal concept of rational autonomous subjectivity). you use what you think might trigger the former to justify the/an outcome of the later. the answer to your question(in very broad strokes) comes from understanding the relation of those contexts with each other. the structure is layered, with the want at the bottom and the right on top and as with entropy, it has one and only one heading - up. meaning, the desire to die is prior to the right to die; if you don't fix or get passed the desire you can't reach 'the right to'('cause you're fucking dead) and if you're already pondering on your 'right to' then the desire is no longer an option(it was replaced by a need to die). throwing rocks at people with guns can be seen as a rational gesture if you're trying to die but to justify it, you need a rational reason for what triggered it; you can't say but the unconscious ...+ Show Spoiler + the part of your mind that contains feelings and thoughts that you do not know about, and that influences the way you behave if you admit that for rational actions the trigger needs to be a rational reason, then you have to look at palestinians as rational agents and you(the liberal, since you brought it up) are not able to do that because then you'll need to justify what's happening there(morally and ethically) and objectively, you can't do it. the western culture taught you that you can sometimes be allowed a right to die in extreme conditions(pain, life quality ..etc) and applying that to this scenario, makes palestinians 'want to die'(as people put it) also stem from atrocious living conditions and not from the fucking unconscious. (ps: i'm not using fuck as a stance enforcer or something; i just fuck a lot, it doesn't mean much here) no what im saying at the beginning there is that while it might be inappropriate to say that they had a conscious, deliberate wish to die, it might be true that they still had an (unconscious) desire to die. if you read my sentence carefully, i am asking why someone like you, who criticizes liberal policies which assume homo oeconomicus pertains, refuses to see anything but homo oeconomicus when it comes to desire (ie "this makes no sense, no one wants to die, etc"). lastly i contested even this biopolitical logic of control (that only the "disordered" could possibly consciously wish to die), intimating that some people might consciously, deliberately wish to die, which you admit may be the case in extreme conditions | ||
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Plansix
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Also, he has access to the search feature while banned...... | ||
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Danglars
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That’s a good section of the thread. Good memories. | ||
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Plansix
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IgnE
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LegalLord
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On May 18 2018 01:40 IgnE wrote: reading the last page of the thread where everyone attacks introvert for pointing out a clarification it has become apparent that the thread is now just a safe space where thinking is prohibited. multiple posts accusing introvert of being a stupid, hypocritical, reprobate "without a leg to stand on." RIP thread Might we need to add trigger warnings to keep the space safe? | ||
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