EPTOn May 18 2018 03:08 IgnE wrote:
and id wager GH is a pretty typical portland democrat
and id wager GH is a pretty typical portland democrat
No disagreement there
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farvacola
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IgnE
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iamthedave
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iamthedave
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On May 18 2018 02:10 IgnE wrote: 1) so introvert posts an innocuous clarification of shameless trump bashing (shameless because it, like trump, eschews fact) 2) someone says blah blah introvert why are you defending trump 3) introvert posts this, an eminently reasonable post: 4) he starts getting called out for being a "hypocrite" republican "with no leg to stand on," etc etc, drawn into a stupid pointless argument over whether trump is the worst human scum on the planet 5) after a gentle fact-based application of counter-spin to a shameless trump-bashing post, the people flip the script: it is now introvert who is deviously slipping his alt-right spin into the conversation; he doesnt come out and SAY that all (illegal) immigrants are animals but thats what he MEANS, because he's just an alt right trump defender and we all know that trump thinks immigrants are animals so who is triggered here? I'm pretty sure it's you. You certainly seem to think this is a way bigger deal than everyone else involved. Even, I suspect, Introvert. He got into a bit of a back-and-forth with a poster, there was a bit of a pile-on, but your consistent presentation that he was 100% correct and everyone replying to him is 100% wrong is pretty far from the truth. All a bunch of nothing, and par for the course in the politics thread for a long time. | ||
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brian
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On May 18 2018 03:14 IgnE wrote: i prefer ad hominem individual combat myself, as should be clear to anyone reading me. what i find dispiriting is that rather than engage (or acknowledge and move on) with the substance of posts, it seems to me that the new moderation strategies have only resulted in encouraging people to find the line of acceptable thought as quickly as possible. introvert made two or three innocuous, reasonable posts, with substance that was on point, and yet we still get two pages of people reflexively drawing a line in the sand and saying you are either with us or against us, are you for trump or not? if that is not the death of thought i dont know what is it’s odd that you would say you prefer engaging with the content of a post (especially after the opener but i digress) despite showing clearly how you’re ready to read things into posts that are simply not there. fully agree not only was introvert innocuous but helpful, and i for one enjoyed reading the entire exchange (theirs not ours.) the resulting shitting on trump does not undo that or imply otherwise. | ||
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Plansix
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Second, it isn’t like he came into the thread asking for clarification or couched his post saying that Trumps statements were still terrible. The post he is responding to is a bit hyperbolic, but we were also talking about separating families and putting their kids in detention facilities without access to legal counsel. The post was highlighting the administrations shitty treatment of illegal immigrants, criminal or otherwise. | ||
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IgnE
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LegalLord
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On May 18 2018 03:14 IgnE wrote: i prefer ad hominem individual combat myself, as should be clear to anyone reading me. Usually looks like about 20% wit, 80% mean-spirited in just about all cases I've seen from you. | ||
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IgnE
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On May 18 2018 03:28 LegalLord wrote: Usually looks like about 20% wit, 80% mean-spirited in just about all cases I've seen from you. ouch that hurts most of all | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
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On May 18 2018 03:08 IgnE wrote: Does the typical portland democrat hates the democrat party with a passion?and id wager GH is a pretty typical portland democrat | ||
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LegalLord
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Danglars
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On May 18 2018 03:14 IgnE wrote: i prefer ad hominem individual combat myself, as should be clear to anyone reading me. what i find dispiriting is that rather than engage (or acknowledge and move on) with the substance of posts, it seems to me that the new moderation strategies have only resulted in encouraging people to find the line of acceptable thought as quickly as possible. introvert made two or three innocuous, reasonable posts, with substance that was on point, and yet we still get two pages of people reflexively drawing a line in the sand and saying you are either with us or against us, are you for trump or not? if that is not the death of thought i dont know what is All this is well and good, but do you see a moderation strategy that actually rewards posting on substance and discourages drawing lines for tribal sides to do combat on? You can’t just swap out for a posting population that is interested in responding on substance or ignoring the post. | ||
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Nebuchad
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LegalLord
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On May 18 2018 03:37 Nebuchad wrote: I was sure GH was from WA, did I make that up? You're thinking of Mohdoo, his almost-clone from WA. | ||
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farvacola
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Also lol @Mohdoo being similar to GH, they represent significantly different sects of Leftism. | ||
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LegalLord
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On May 18 2018 03:36 Danglars wrote: All this is well and good, but do you see a moderation strategy that actually rewards posting on substance and discourages drawing lines for tribal sides to do combat on? Less of it, mostly. While the mods probably aren't interested in pushing any specific political agenda they will mostly ban along lines of "whose elimination from the thread will remove the most irate discussion" which necessarily singles out two groups: 1. Trolls/irrational people 2. People with highly contentious/contrary opinions relative to the norm. So obviously controversial opinions would get targeted more than average simply by virtue of that being the path of least resistance to reducing irate responses in the thread. Best way to stop that is to let things find their own balance. At least, the best of what has been tried. On May 18 2018 03:39 farvacola wrote: Also lol @Mohdoo being similar to GH, they represent significantly different sects of Leftism. While true, their similarities (especially in the emotionally driven posting style) are more significant than the differences. | ||
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Nebuchad
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On May 18 2018 03:39 LegalLord wrote: You're thinking of Mohdoo, his almost-clone from WA. You did get me to check that Mohdoo was really from Portland with that post, nice trolling ^.^ | ||
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Danglars
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On May 18 2018 03:38 Dangermousecatdog wrote: You seem really invested in this notion that the moderators are moderating on political lines Danglars. In this case, what you said has nothing to do with my post. | ||
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LegalLord
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On May 18 2018 03:45 Nebuchad wrote: You did get me to check that Mohdoo was really from Portland with that post, nice trolling ^.^ Actually no, I'm just wrong on that one and I got the two mixed up by geography. GH really is in WA. | ||
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