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Server: EU Your Name: Wiwiweb Hacker Name: KwiiMnChll
Replays: Typhon Peaks Shakuras Plateau (most obvious)
Description: On both Typhon Peaks and Shakuras Plateau, guessed my position correctly and 2 gate rushed. On Shakuras Plateau, pulled out probes the instant I was building a hidden pylon just outside of his base. He had no vision of anything. No suspicious camera movements, though often freezing. Is on a 12 win streak, of only 3 minutes long games.
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Server: EU Your Name: scirre Hacker Name: KwiiMnChll Replay: http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=8903
Description: He played against me in pretty much same way as described above. Cross on Metalopolis. Sent a probe and guessed my spawn right away. 2 gate proxy rush.
I built my my stuff a bit to the right in my base. Do look at the minimap from his point of view from 1.14-1.20, scrolling over my stuff, that is kind of suspicious.
You can also see (from his point of view) that my probe "leaves" his base 2.50. He does not see it returning and luckily hunts it down at 3.40. That can of course happen if the intention is just scouting the base to be sure, or even placing a pylon in the back. However, all and all together, very suspicious!!
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Sweden4 Posts
On May 28 2011 23:26 Wiwiweb wrote:Server: EU Your Name: Wiwiweb Hacker Name: KwiiMnChll Replays: Typhon PeaksShakuras Plateau (most obvious)Description: On both Typhon Peaks and Shakuras Plateau, guessed my position correctly and 2 gate rushed. On Shakuras Plateau, pulled out probes the instant I was building a hidden pylon just outside of his base. He had no vision of anything. No suspicious camera movements, though often freezing. Is on a 12 win streak, of only 3 minutes long games.
Dude! He is dancing with your probe at the 1 minute mark, and he is checking your forge at 1.28-1.30! Kind of suspiicious camera movement to me!! :D :D
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Server: NA Your Name: Wubbles Hacker Name: SGTofLuck Replay: http://drop.sc/11524
Description: 4:00 - Terran hasn't scouted anything, blindly makes a bunker when baneling nest is halfway complete
4:51 Finnally decides to send an scv. Clicks to send his scv cross position to where my main is.
5:01 - SCV scout sees 1 ling going to poke up ramp, instantly makes a 2nd bunker
5:07 - SCV dies to 7 lings
At this point I decide to make a hatchery cause I figure it'll be futile to attempt a bane bust. I realize I'm also behind so I say screw it, gonna try anyway and cancel hatch.
6:13 - He still hasn't scouted anything, my main, my tech, etc. All he knows is that I have a small handful (7-9) lings. As soon as my banelings start morphing, he instantly makes a 3rd bunker
6:21 - Still hasn't seen anything, production tab shows 13 banes being morphed, he makes now a 4th bunker at his mineral line
6:27/9 - Camera slides to his bottom ramp passing over where my lings/banes are morphing and then jumps back to his main
And then I go for the bust, question his actions cause it seems like something is up, proceed to replay and seems pretty obvious that he's hacking.
He then messages me after the game trying to deny any sort of hacking, he claims blindly making bunkers is goes with his "bunker timing" because they're salvageable. I question why he clicked to send his scv cross position where I was, he says "I sent that scv to scout close position not cross" (Lie as you see in replay). Then he goes on how it's a smurf account, he's really a GM, streams on TL, blahblahblah. Don't really care since the replay doesn't lie.
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Username- Kintaro Hackers name- Blueberrys, KCBadger, ShOwie..
Description: In a 3v3 him and his team continue to look in my and my teammates base a, also says nice rax without even scouting it lol take a look.
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/3364
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I really think people should post the division they are when they post. I watched Wubbles replay and i can say yeah it's a little suspicious that you went for a baneling bust without scouting any good terran that would have enterd in your base and noticed no expo , gas still mining speed already on the way would have owned you, but let's talk about the replay since i think you are at platinium-really low diamond at best. The scouting scv + no scouting yeah looks like a hack(but remeber we are not talking about pros-master lvl+ play). When i started playing noticed that a lot of players all in at lower divisions. So if i see really fast speedling= bunker, if i noticed more then 4 speedlings outside my base= PANIC= 5 bunkers , my macro will own him. Trust me baneling busts/roach rush you are not the first to do it . So in conclusion maybe it NEEDS REVIEW but i think he was a noob that got baneling busted so many times :D , i know i've been there
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Username -Kintaro Hackers Names -Blueberrys, KCBadger, ShOwie
Description: Blatant map hacking from the very start of the game. Staring through FOW at mains, armies, incoming drops, etc. All chat of "nice rax" from Blueberrys without even scouting them further confirms intel gained from map hacking.
Help ban some scrubs: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/3364
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On May 22 2011 20:59 CanucksJC wrote:Server: NA Your Name: CanucksJC Hacker Name: Imperfect.459 + Show Spoiler +I wouldn't normally do this if I didn't have concrete evidence or if the guy was trolling me at 4AM... but add Imperfect.459, look at his match history 3-4 weeks ago and tell me he isn't d/c hacking. I trust in TL's manpower GLHF.
I find it sad that the topic starter believes things so easily and accuses people unjustly without double checking. I reviewed his winstreak and it's clear he is just a smurf. If you take the time to look at the build orders he makes units and ends the game quickly. All his opponents were bronze or silver during that streak and he is currently in high platinum. I hope you will take the time to double check in the future. Because it is clear that he does/did not deserve to be banned from these forums.
Edit: Better yet, I have asked Imperfect.459 for replays of his winstreak and he is currently trying to get his hands on them.
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Server: NA Your Name: Zboss.446 Hacker Name: Roscoe Replay: Description: 4:20 Stares into my base, blind counters DTs 10:45 Stares at Prism 13:30 Pauses the game(no warning and no warning for un-pause, which is why I called him bm) then stares at my army 14:00 Finds DT
On less concrete evidence, he was terrible. Even with map hacks I have no idea how he got into Masters. He bmed at the beginning so I decided I was gonna cheese him with some dts. Which was a terrible choice as he's a map hacker. When he stopped it I thought I was so far behind, so I expand with not enough units to hold off any sort of attack and think I'll dt harass my way back in. No attack comes, so I breath a little easier. But, I figure damn, he double expanded better harass, harass fails too as he map hacks the prism. But the good news is he's still on 2 base with less drones than me... I was dumbfounded. That was the moment I knew he was maphacking, I realized how bad he was, he didn't scout my base, and he countered dts. So I scout all roaches no hydra den, I mass immortals and stalkers like normal and the dude starts pumping corrupters. This is when I start doubting he's map hacking, why the fuck did he build corrupters. Well naturally after I destroy that army I expect BLs, so I a scrambled to drop 3 stargates and hope my voids come out in time. He rolls up with hydras roach inferstor, with his corrupters still doing shit. At this point i kick my self for not scouting better and instead assuming the fool would be logical and go bls. My suspicion rises again at this point. No problem I keep my voids back so the corrupters have nothing to attack again, and start pumping colossi. At this point he's on 1 1/2 bases and I'm three and it's not a contest. Long story short he played so badly BMed so hard, yet was in masters so I knew he had to be map hacking.
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On May 27 2011 14:50 MayanSc2 wrote: Server: NA Your Name: MayanWarrior Hacker Name: Rem on replay, Helluva on TL fourms and vGOdien new accnt name. Replay: [url blocked] Description: He released a replay pack and almost all of them have hovering over oppt bases knows to counter 6pools with forge wall off before even scouting a 6pool! the replay shows massive hovering over Neans base. With no vision over fog. Has opened threads about, "how to change ip address", "how hes going to give away his GM account" and "he is no longer going by the name Rem and chaning to different name"
!confirm on vGOdien
Played him - scouted me close air positions first, 4 gates me and fails, then IMMEDIATELY after this, he beelines it to my hidden expo with no prior vision of it. I call him out on it, he angrily starts saying how he is streaming with 2,000 viewers, and how I am a no life. Shame I didn't save the rep. I'm sure other ppl have experiences like this with vGOdien.
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Holy shit leave for a LAN and there's over 9000 replays to be watched.
Running to the Store, getting mah drinks, watchin some replays.
Promise to update tonight! <3
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On May 29 2011 12:50 Greenworld wrote:I really think people should post the division they are when they post. I watched Wubbles replay and i can say yeah it's a little suspicious that you went for a baneling bust without scouting any good terran that would have enterd in your base and noticed no expo , gas still mining speed already on the way would have owned you, but let's talk about the replay since i think you are at platinium-really low diamond at best. The scouting scv + no scouting yeah looks like a hack(but remeber we are not talking about pros-master lvl+ play). When i started playing noticed that a lot of players all in at lower divisions. So if i see really fast speedling= bunker, if i noticed more then 4 speedlings outside my base= PANIC= 5 bunkers , my macro will own him. Trust me baneling busts/roach rush you are not the first to do it . So in conclusion maybe it NEEDS REVIEW but i think he was a noob that got baneling busted so many times :D , i know i've been there
I'm 1100-1200 masters. I usually just do some stupid all-in on bad ZvT maps to get it over with (win or lose). The timing of the bunkers is what tells the tale though as I pointed out in my analysis. And also when he runs his camera into the fow over my banes.
Like going back to my post and comparing to what you said....if i see really fast speedling= bunker, if i noticed more then 4 speedlings outside my base= PANIC= 5 bunkers
I agree, this is normal, if a Terran is feeling unsafe after seeing some speedlings running around, they'll make bunkers ASAP...but that's not the case in the replay.
At 5:07 is when he sees that small handful of speedlings...however he waits over a minute to make those extra bunkers. During that minute I had started a hatchery, then I canceled it to proceed with the all-in. As soon as my banes started morphing he threw down bunkers 3 & 4 and soon after slides camera over/past where my units are.
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On May 24 2011 01:32 deusarba wrote:Server:EU Your Name:Deus Hacker Name:SUFZTER Replay: http://drop.sc/11182
There's no way in this replay to tell if he's hacking in here. I really don't think he is, tbh.
We'll see if he comes up more often.
On May 25 2011 09:20 Aetir wrote:Realm : US Your name : Quark Hacker Name : Azarias Replay : http://drop.sc/11278
Yep, easy maphack. Funny how he scouts a hellion drop and doesn't build any roaches or anything to counter it haha.
Yep, easy. Definitely a maphack, and you're spot on - clicks the rax through FOW.
On May 27 2011 14:50 MayanSc2 wrote: Server: NA Your Name: MayanWarrior Hacker Name: Rem on replay, Helluva on TL fourms and vGOdien new accnt name. Replay: [url blocked]
Confirmed - Lots of fog scouting, and it wasn't just "oh what addon did he have again?" it was "I didn't do a good job of scouting what is he building?"
What did it for me was retreating his little patrol of stalkers well before he saw the bio ball moving out. Everything else just kind of confirms it. Hope TL takes some action.
I'm not so sure on this one - I'll put it up for Review but personally I'm not totally convinced he's maphacking.
3:30 and 3:35 are kind of iffy, both are while he's panning down to his natural - and you didn't actually start any cannons, just pylon walls.
The reason I'm not so sure he's maphacking is because your probe comes within vision of his hatchery after the last pylon. He clicks your probe, and then it goes back into the FOW on his camera, and he loses his selection of your probe.
If he was maphacking, he would have had your probe selected through fog...but your probe vanishes, he loses selection, and then goes back to select a hatch. I'm just going to leave this up for review but I don't think he's hacking.
edit: after watching the other Roscoe replay I'm pretty mindf'ed on this one. Please watch them both and let me know.
Yup, and I'll just comment on the Shakuras cause I watched that one second and remember the stuff more!
1:12ish he goes around your scout probe perfectly because he saw it. Scouts your forge at 1:30 through fog that is way outside your base - that's a brilliant forge spot btw. LOL. Then there's the obvious probe pull...Confirmed. I got the other two reps by him saved as well.
On May 29 2011 03:43 Wubbles wrote:Server: NA Your Name: Wubbles Hacker Name: SGTofLuck Replay: http://drop.sc/11524
I want a few more eyes on this one before I confirm or deny - not because I don't think he's hacking, but I just want a confirm. Will add to review. When he pans to his lower ramp, he can't actually see any of your lings/banes. I've got the max resolution on SC2 up as well, so I don't think it's a resolution/widescreen thing
Man every rep I watch of Blueberries makes me dislike him more and more - what a total douche. And I had to put up with his crap three times. All three of them are maphacking. Blatantly obvious maphacking. I hope these guys are gone soon.
On May 29 2011 23:26 FAOU wrote: I find it sad that the topic starter believes things so easily and accuses people unjustly without double checking. I reviewed his winstreak and it's clear he is just a smurf. If you take the time to look at the build orders he makes units and ends the game quickly. All his opponents were bronze or silver during that streak and he is currently in high platinum. I hope you will take the time to double check in the future. Because it is clear that he does/did not deserve to be banned from these forums.
While I appreciate you doing this - try and not take personal jabs at me next time. If you removed the first sentence entirely, it would have been a perfectly good post. Like I've said countless times - I'm not 100% perfect and I never will be, which is why people are SUPPOSED to go and take a look at what is being posted in here REGARDLESS of what me / arb / anyone else thinks. I always watch replays even when 5 people say "oh man confirmed cause of this that this"
I don't believe things easily, and disc hacks are something that I've not had a lot of experiences in "proving". Which I now have a good idea of how to go about finding them out. So thanks for that, but next time just make the post without that first sentence. I'd appreciate it.
I'll take him off the list - if it were up to me we wouldn't include drophacks - and trust your info. However, the screenshots that Canucks provided don't show what you are talking about - Most of those games have "No Actions" in them in the timeframe that he posted.
If you notice I didn't put KnY on the list because I was unsure how to confirm drophacks - Why don't you take a look at his matches and let me know what you think about that, since you're better at drophacks than I am - and that's not meant to sound smartassy, even though it probably will anyways.
On May 30 2011 06:54 zboss wrote: Server: NA Your Name: Zboss.446 Hacker Name: Roscoe Replay:http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=211759
Actually since this is a second replay with Roscoe that's like...teeter tottering between hacks or not, I'm a lot more suspicious. This replay is a lot more convicting though, and I'm going to add him to confirmed now, in my personal list. Other folks, please feel free to watch the two Roscoe replays and give me further input, and I'll change if needed. For now I'm just leaving it on NEEDS REVIEW in the TL list - The first replay makes me feel like he isn't maphacking.
On May 30 2011 07:33 LicH. wrote: !confirm on vGOdien
Played him - scouted me close air positions first, 4 gates me and fails, then IMMEDIATELY after this, he beelines it to my hidden expo with no prior vision of it. I call him out on it, he angrily starts saying how he is streaming with 2,000 viewers, and how I am a no life. Shame I didn't save the rep. I'm sure other ppl have experiences like this with vGOdien.
Need a replay - Please check and see if it's in your history somewhere. It would be super awesomes. <3 I am going to send the entire confirmed list with replays to blizzard and the more we have the better.
lol his SCV split failed so bad. Haha. He moved like 4 of the SCVs and then hit stop and they all stopped then missed the minerals again. Then he misrallied his CC and moved all his SCVs off minerals by accident xD
I'm not going to call this one hacks - I will put it up for review but my opinion is that there is no maphack here. Where was he confirmed? Season 1 thread?
I watch the first playthrough of all reps from the hacker's point of view. And I knew what base you were at without ever scouting you - his SCV spotted your SCV leaving your base. I guess you could argue that you might have really early scouted it and was just leaving - but from this rep I can't call hacks. Maybe if more people chime in or have other replays I will change my mind, but I think he's clean. Maybe his crummy SCV split prompted him to cheese. Haha.
Thanks everyone - please remember to check all of the replays in my replies to make sure I'm not misjudging. At the very least snag the new NEEDS REVIEW in the main post and let me know. Thanks to everyone for chiming in with the last few replays as well as these posted ones! You're helping a bunch! <3<3
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[NEEDS REVIEW]Hacker Name : Roscoe
Replay 1: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=211268Description: Ragequits after his ramp is pylon blocked without scouting it, I am unconvinced from this replay, as he sees the probe outside his nat for a split second, and can easily judge a cannon rush or pylon wall is there - also loses the selection on the probe when it goes back into fog of war Replay 2:http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=211759 Description: This replay, however, seems to be a lot more convicting of maphacks. Blind counters and scouts DTs around on the map, as well as pauses the game around 13:30ish and pans around his opponents base to size up his army. Blind scouts and kills a hidden DT near his third/fourth...very suspicious on this one. I'm pretty convinced on this second replay but give them a watch and let me know what you think.
Everything to me says too lucky, maphack. The evo chamber and spore crawler in front of his base and within 20 seconds of the first colossus coming out he puts down a spire and without hesitation pumps out corruptors. He attacked the natural and the third miraculously while they were still warping in. I agree with all of the points in question. Hax0rz most leet. Oh and he never once scouts with the overlord behind the natural and never scouts the main (Even with a drone at the start). Know anyone else that got to masters like that?
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On May 31 2011 10:52 Probe1 wrote:[NEEDS REVIEW]Hacker Name : Roscoe Show nested quote +Replay 1: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=211268Description: Ragequits after his ramp is pylon blocked without scouting it, I am unconvinced from this replay, as he sees the probe outside his nat for a split second, and can easily judge a cannon rush or pylon wall is there - also loses the selection on the probe when it goes back into fog of war Replay 2:http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=211759 Description: This replay, however, seems to be a lot more convicting of maphacks. Blind counters and scouts DTs around on the map, as well as pauses the game around 13:30ish and pans around his opponents base to size up his army. Blind scouts and kills a hidden DT near his third/fourth...very suspicious on this one. I'm pretty convinced on this second replay but give them a watch and let me know what you think. Everything to me says too lucky, maphack. The evo chamber and spore crawler in front of his base and within 20 seconds of the first colossus coming out he puts down a spire and without hesitation pumps out corruptors. He attacked the natural and the third miraculously while they were still warping in. I agree with all of the points in question. Hax0rz most leet. Oh and he never once scouts with the overlord behind the natural and never scouts the main (Even with a drone at the start). Know anyone else that got to masters like that?
Sjow.
:p
Thanks, I was pretty sure he was a maphacker based on the second game alone. Just kind of odd in the first game. Maybe even when people are maphacking they lose selection on units that cross into what would be the fog? Maybe I'll find a guest account and play vs myself and see how some of this works firsthand. Hrmm
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Toren, let me know if you need a guest pass. Provided They don't expire I should have two I was saving for some reason. This seems as good a reason as any :p
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We can officially put Roscoe out of review. Apparently he forgot I already told him he was caught, and I reported him, and instead took me for a fellow map hacker when I sarcastically asked him how the map hacking was going. I blurred out the website he gave me to alleviate any "crimes of opportunity"
I just went to the website in question, I am appalled at how easy it is to map hack, and how easy it is to not get caught. There are ones that lock the replay camera at a position while you peruse your enemy and then when you move your units again, returns the replay to normal. So this is another thing to look for, it wont be conclusive at all. Because they might be doing any number of things that cause their camera to stand still for a few seconds, but it might allow for further evidence in a case.
If the thread starters want the website PM me.
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Haha. Like I said, I was personally convinced he was maphacking after that second replay.
Sure makes it easy to prove when they admit it, though. XD
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