TL Hacker Database, Season 2!

On May 15 2011 22:10 Sporadic44 wrote:
second time this has happened to me. upon entering a game my character keys wouldnt work. and when i hit enter the chat screen appeared as such.
+ Show Spoiler +
is this a confirmed bug or some sort of hack? both times i could not use any alphabetic keys but could use all other keys on the keyboard.

edit: spoiler tag, and the reason for the screen shot is the chat dialogue. it normally says all when you hit enter.

On May 16 2011 02:24 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
try depressing the alt key and releasing hte same with control there's some weird bug in sc2 where the alt key will get stuck in the loading screen so that your keyboard won't work.

On May 16 2011 01:04 DirtYLOu wrote:



It's not a hack. I have this sometimes as well, I don't know why tho.

All you need to do is click ctrl + alt + delete and the task manager will show up, and u can close it cuz u can now use keyboard in SC2.

I don't know why it happens tho T_T

On May 15 2011 08:26 Masq wrote:
Server: EU
Your Name: Smurf (T)
Hacker Name: KnY (Zerg)

On May 16 2011 07:08 seodoth wrote:
Realm : EU
Your name : seodoth
Hacker Name : XytoxicNL

On May 16 2011 07:18 arb wrote:
I think this should be added to the OP, since alot of peopel report this and its obv not a hack

On May 16 2011 12:05 nullmind wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: FreshShock
Hacker Name: UnderCover

On May 17 2011 02:22 Speece wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: Blarg
Hacker Name: AntiTheist

On May 17 2011 02:47 Synystyr wrote:
Out of curiosity, who is running this thread now? Did arb ever find someone else to collaborate with on this? I know he was getting overwhelmed with the number of incoming replays after a while...I'd also love to help if need be.

On May 17 2011 02:47 Synystyr wrote:
Out of curiosity, who is running this thread now? Did arb ever find someone else to collaborate with on this? I know he was getting overwhelmed with the number of incoming replays after a while...I'd also love to help if need be.

On May 17 2011 02:22 Speece wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: Blarg
Hacker Name: AntiTheist
Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?5s5e6hdqcq2iswn
Description: ZvZ on xel naga. i dont feel like playing a real game so I 7 pool and he makes a 9 pool and a spinecralwer (WTF?) blindly, and a bunch of lings that just hang out in his base waiting for my 7 pool. The entire game he didnt not even scout my base. its still in the fog of war for him. This is totally unheard of in a masters level game. i start to go one base roach. he puts his roach warren down immediately after mine and then cancels ling speed when he sees im not getting it. At 11:00 he splits his units to try to get a better concave without seeing me coming. At 15:18 he sends a drone out to his third thinking that i would take mine beacuse we both just destroyed our rocks. instead i move out and the drone sits there for the rest of the game, and he decides to move his spinecralwer to the front.
his apm is also abysmally low for a masters player (46)

On May 17 2011 06:00 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
Server: NA

Your Name: PuLLz

Hacker Name: nGsSojU

Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/1501

Description: Didn't really seem like too much at the beginning, except he seemed to always have 3 stalkers and an observer in position to intercept any incoming observers. Watch when his first observer comes out and his army repositions to snipe mine immediately.

The big thing was at about 12:30 when I position a warp prism above his base in preparation for a dt drop. He immediately brings 3 stalkers and his observers back to his main. I thought this might just be good foresight on his part, but after awhile, he moves them away because I haven't moved in to drop yet. When I do move in at 13:30; however and begin warping in DT's behind the fog (which he didn't not see at all), his entire army returns to his base just as my DT's start warping in. I honestly can't find a reasonable explanation for why someone would move their entire army from their natural to the top of their base when they haven't seen anything yet.

On May 18 2011 16:22 drox22 wrote:
FORMAT
Server: EU
Your Name: drky
Hacker Name: (zerg player) - check replay
Replay: http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/70347940/file.html
Description: After 1 minute he looks at my base without sending a scout, he 6 pooled on a 4 player map against terran who usually wall-in (in this case I didn't because I 2-raxed), he looked at my base several times through the fog of war. He had no scouting overlord anywhere near my base and of course knew exactly where I spawned.

I won but it is so obvious this guy was maphacking and yes I insult cheaters and I don't care what you think about that, cheaters ruin this game and when playing this guy I was 100% sure he was cheating.

On May 18 2011 17:02 aidnai wrote:


-He looked at your base to send the lings
-Based on his scouting and yours, it was obvious where you were. Even if he couldn't figure it out from your scout, he ovie scouted close air and knew you were either close ground or cross positions. Don't you think it makes sense to send his lings where he did?

There is no evidence of your opponent hacking. Please review the guidelines in the OP before posting here again. My advice to you is manner up and don't be so suspicious of others.

He 9-pooled by the way.

On May 18 2011 17:04 drox22 wrote:
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if this isn't obvious maphacking then I don't know what other evidence you need.

On May 18 2011 22:14 IamAnton wrote:
that PiLLage guy?!! 69-0 random on NA server.. Disc hacked Select on his stream :p

On May 18 2011 19:07 aidnai wrote:


-sending lings to the right base is not evidence
-looking at your base briefly on 1-2 occasions is not good evidence

read the OP. If you're still lost, look at a replay of an actual hacker. All of the points you bring up are explained by your spawn positions + overall level of play from both players.

If arb/torenhire look at this, I am confident they will agree that the replay you submitted does not provide evidence of hacking.

On May 19 2011 07:51 drox22 wrote:


Looking at my base through the fog of war before he even scouted it - check.
Looking at my army through the fog of war without scouting it - check.
Looking at my base without sending a unit - check.

You are obviously retarded.

On May 19 2011 07:58 arb wrote:

You should really just calm it down brosauce.

Getting angry because the replay was dismissed as someone not hacking is no reason to call someone else retarded

On May 19 2011 08:02 drox22 wrote:


It wasn't dismissed, he is no official, it's his opinion and he is clearly wrong, he even fails to provide an argument. He just ignores all the evidence provided by this replay and is arguing for the sake of it, so yes he must be retarded.

On May 19 2011 08:11 arb wrote:

Okay so.. The lings ..kinda explainable? close ground stuff does make sense.. He looked at your base through the fog like a couple time so i dunno.

To be fair he could see the one tank sieging so running lings wasnt that odd(watched from his vis)
Seeing that mass of marines as his natural triggering spines was kinda..a defensive reaction?

I really dont know, Usually id add this to a yes but his overall play was just so shitty that im not sure if he was hacking or not ~_~.

Maybe Torenhire can give another thought on this one

I sent him a PM, cause honestly im not sure what to make up cause this replay screams something like 2+2 = 3, cause nothing he did really made any sense for him to be hacking

On May 19 2011 08:18 drox22 wrote:


Just look at 1:20 where he looks at my base when nobody had scouted yet and at around 8:20 he looks at my marines through the fog of war (he didn't scout them, but built 2 spines), and yes this guy was pretty bad even for my level of play (high plat) he was in gold league and even for that he was so terrible.

Plus he didn't scout my base for the entire game, imo obvious maphack.

On May 19 2011 08:22 arb wrote:

Well i played it through on x2, and any suspicious part i went down to normal, he just lost all his lings to your marines, that would IMO(even at my level it would) signal "Hey my whole army is dead, he's probably going to attack"

So nothing there i dont think.

On May 19 2011 08:24 drox22 wrote:


And yet again you ignore 1:20 where he looks at my main when I hadn't even scouted his base yet and he didn't send a scout either. Why do all of you ignore this? 1:20

1:20

1:20

1:20

1:20

1:20

Got it now?

On May 19 2011 08:26 arb wrote:

This is one of those funny things, I saw this from both vis and all i see is your SCV going to the choke, whether this is just a lucky look or something i have no idea, he could have assumed you were at that spot or something/

This is one of the things that makes me lean towards him being things but his other reactions and overall very very shitty decision making for someone alleged to be map hacking make me wonder. Cant call him a hacker based off one thing alone

On May 19 2011 08:31 drox22 wrote:


Fair enough but what about 8:20 where he looks at my marines through the fog of war and a little bit later where he just looks at my base without scouting?

On May 19 2011 08:36 arb wrote:

The marine thing is like at 8:56~ ish, i went to normal speed at like 8:10 and didnt see anything, that ones pretty hackish too, The later part i believe he looked and saw a building being build and 2 rax, maybe he was just confirming what he saw i have no idea(checking addons maybe?)

The more i see the more i lean to him being a hacker but ill wait on Torenhire to watch the replay to confirm

On May 18 2011 16:22 drox22 wrote:
Your Name: drky
Hacker Name: Ayyildiz
Replay: http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/70347940/file.html

On May 18 2011 17:02 aidnai wrote:
-He looked at your base to send the lings
-Based on his scouting and yours, it was obvious where you were. Even if he couldn't figure it out from your scout, he ovie scouted close air and knew you were either close ground or cross positions. Don't you think it makes sense to send his lings where he did?

There is no evidence of your opponent hacking. Please review the guidelines in the OP before posting here again. My advice to you is manner up and don't be so suspicious of others.

He 9-pooled by the way.

On May 18 2011 21:49 Fonzy wrote:
Your name : Fonzy.190
Hacker Name : iMpure.224
Replay : http://hs-s.com/mods/replays/download.php?id=17

On May 20 2011 09:01 TL AntiHack wrote:


Man this is one bizarre replay. Heh.



I'll just touch a couple bases here.

First of all, aidnai, you're mistaken, he looks at his base when the pool is only like 20% done. And he hadn't scouted any base yet, his ovie was still too short of being in position to see anything at the close air base. (I think. It's VERY close) so I understand his suspicious at the very beginning. I don't want you to feel like I don't appreciate the help, but make sure to watch the replay a couple times (I usually watch 3-4 times, varying views and speeds. etc. etc. no one cares :p ) so stuff doesn't get skipped over. You might have been looking away or not on the player's camera, because the SECOND time he looks over at the base to send the lings in, I see what you're saying. So I think you just missed the first look and you think the first look is what is actually the second.

Secondly, Drox, I think a couple of the things you initially bring up are dismissible as luck, such as moving up when your depot is down...He only moved up your ramp twice

First time : He wasn't moving up your ramp because your depot was down, he ran towards your ramp because one of your marines shot at his lings he left outside your ramp. He didn't even have them selected until that marine fired some stray bullets.

Second time: He had those lings sitting there and just a-moved up your ramp when he saw your marines run by. Plus your depot was already up anyways.

He built those spines after he lost a ton of lings to your marines at your natural - anyone would do this. He's got a total of two lings and 16 drones...

He definitely checked your marines under fog, however, and I actually agree with you at the end where he reacts with his lings/queen while you're sieging up out of vision.

My idea (I don't want to say verdict because this is fucking weird. It's like a 50/50 maphack.) is that it's a REALLY low level player maphacking. Arb is 100% right. If he's maphacking he is doing some insanely odd things. If he was maphacking why scout close air first with his ovie? If he was trying to hide his maphack why would he then be stupid and just FOW look at you? Very queer.

I'm really torn on confirming him or not, because I am usually "not a hacker until very obvious" and this one has like...3-4 very obvious hack things but then he does 5-6 things that if he was hacking, he wouldn't do. The reason I think he's probably a bronze player maphacking is because you're at almost 70 supply and he's only built a total of like 20 drones and a handful of lings, he doesn't even get ling speed at any point in the game. He actually 8 pooled but I don't think it had anything to do with your wall not being done yet, I think it was just "herp derp 200 minerals *pool*"


Maybe it's time to add a different category to the hacker list...

On May 19 2011 02:57 SoulWager wrote:
Server: North America
Your Name: SoulWager.969
Hacker Name: Ask
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/1814
Description: blatant army movement to intercept units under fog of war at 21:37 and 29:05

On May 20 2011 09:59 Demonace34 wrote:
Glad to see the NEEDS REVIEW section added, I've been wanting to help out the community lately but I doubt I could make it as a writer for TL so I'll be looking over replays in this thread. Any tips besides the obvious?

Production Maphack:
For example, If I watch a ZvT and I see the zerg players gearing up for a baneling bust. Terran never scouts the Zerg or scans but still puts up 2 bunkers and thickens his wall with barracks for no reason.

Blantant Maphack:
Stares into FOW and blindly counters what other player does. Sometimes even looking at weird pylons around the map or hidden DT tech without scouting.

With maphack is the player able to blink/warp up into someones base without a spotter or pick of structures from the low ground?

What other types of hacks are there?

On May 20 2011 09:59 Demonace34 wrote:
Glad to see the NEEDS REVIEW section added, I've been wanting to help out the community lately but I doubt I could make it as a writer for TL so I'll be looking over replays in this thread. Any tips besides the obvious?

Production Maphack:
For example, If I watch a ZvT and I see the zerg players gearing up for a baneling bust. Terran never scouts the Zerg or scans but still puts up 2 bunkers and thickens his wall with barracks for no reason.

Blantant Maphack:
Stares into FOW and blindly counters what other player does. Sometimes even looking at weird pylons around the map or hidden DT tech without scouting.

With maphack is the player able to blink/warp up into someones base without a spotter or pick of structures from the low ground?

What other types of hacks are there?

On May 18 2011 16:22 drox22 wrote:
FORMAT
Server: EU
Your Name: drky
Hacker Name: (zerg player) - check replay
Replay: http://www65.zippyshare.com/v/70347940/file.html
Description: After 1 minute he looks at my base without sending a scout, he 6 pooled on a 4 player map against terran who usually wall-in (in this case I didn't because I 2-raxed), he looked at my base several times through the fog of war. He had no scouting overlord anywhere near my base and of course knew exactly where I spawned.

I won but it is so obvious this guy was maphacking and yes I insult cheaters and I don't care what you think about that, cheaters ruin this game and when playing this guy I was 100% sure he was cheating.

On May 20 2011 17:21 nepts2 wrote:
http://replayfu.com/r/BGrv4p
http://sc2ranks.com/us/2627408/DrugDealer

I want to make sure the general consensus is agreed upon that DrugDealer used maphack on this game.

1) Starting from 7 min mark, he starts to look through my base in Fog of War
2) After I determined we are in close position and he already made hellions and doing blueflame upgrade (scanned), I positioned marines and tanks in the mineral line, which he did not come to drop after making 4 hellions and not having scanned at all.
3) Cloaking upgraded banshee did not come to my base after I built turrets, which he had no idea I had turrets built. Repeat: He had not used scans at all time.
4) Hellion drop at my secret expo (5 o'clock position, any player in this position would go that far just do scout/harrass)

Please determine this yourself please.

On May 20 2011 17:59 Hertingen wrote:
Realm : EU
Your name : Robotron
Hacker Name : marVin
Replay : not available (drop hack)
Description :
Dropped out after 7 sec (game crash), checked his match history which showed 100% win (all games under 40 sec).

link to profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1565420/1/marVin/matches

On May 20 2011 18:03 Demonace34 wrote:


He is in bronze still, and without a replay of it lagging games out I don't think TL can add to the confirmed. Even with a replay, it is hard to confirm lag issues as hacking. I would still report it to blizzard, but I don't think TL will add it to the list of known hackers.

On May 20 2011 18:34 Hertingen wrote:



No lagging out, instant game crash after 7 secs. Hence no replay.

Some googling of "drop hack sc2" seems to indicate that this is how the most usual drop hacks works..

I've already reported it to blizzard. Have absolutely no idea why laddering without playing seems like a fun thing to do to some people... maphackers are easier to understand, in some way.

On May 20 2011 19:03 ODKStevez wrote:


Sigh... what an idiot. Did you even read what you just said? He could very easily have gotten lucky... He already reduces the chance to 50% when he sees the empty base with his overlord.

On May 20 2011 20:16 zakklol wrote:
Realm : NA
Your name : Zakk
Hacker Name : Blueberrys
Replay : http://replayfu.com/r/hzbVDc
Description :
Short game (6 pool) but there are multiple instances of him looking directly at my base and wall-in through FoW on a 4 player map. (0:26, 1:41). he also moves camera directly to my scouting probe through FoW at 1:16. No rally or other action performed when he did this.

Overall I don't know, maybe the guy just has a clicking habit or something. Figured I'd let some more experienced people take a look.

On May 20 2011 19:03 ODKStevez wrote:


Sigh... what an idiot. Did you even read what you just said? He could very easily have gotten lucky... He already reduces the chance to 50% when he sees the empty base with his overlord.

On May 21 2011 17:16 jiabung wrote:
Should add DrugDealer to the confirmed list. Here's another suspicious (to say the least) replay of him map hacking.

Server: NA
Your Name: Sushi
Hacker Name: DrugDealer
Replay: http://drop.sc/11046
Description: RZvZ on Shattered Temple. He never scouts my main base and repeatedly looks through the FOW at my main and natural without issuing any commands. The first time he has his larva selected as hes looking into my base and doesn't even send the overlord towards my base until much later. He also looks where my army is rallied through the FOW. He prepares an all-in defense making excessive amounts of queens and spines despite never scouting my baneling nest and only seeing a handful of lings. As the game reaches the later stages, he continues to look into my base without ever scouting it.

On May 21 2011 17:26 TheBlueMeaner wrote:



that sounds like the spanishiwa build to me...

On May 22 2011 09:44 Iksf wrote:
I never can understand how this is a problem now, if blizzard are gonna give every client in the game all info about whats going on theyl never beat hackers. And no one say anything about loading times or bandwidth, in WoW stealthed characters arnt loaded until theyr seen and never been any complaints about stealthed players not having loaded after they start attacking you

On May 22 2011 09:53 Deja Thoris wrote:


What the...!?

What on earth are you on about?

On May 20 2011 11:55 Torenhire wrote:


Production tab hack is a little tough for us to consider, the ZvZ with Antihack or whatever his name was (going off memory here!) watch that one, that's a replay that one could say "Production tab hack obviously" because one zerg player like...6 pools and he 9 pools "for no reason" ....well ZvZ 6pool all-in is not uncommon on ladder so some players just play safe for no reason. I initially thought this might have been a production tab hack but Arb and I bounced ideas back and forth and eventually agreed that it was just safe play and not a hack at all.

On May 20 2011 17:21 nepts2 wrote:
FORMAT
Server: NA
Your Name:iHacker.825
Hacker Name:DrugDealer (http://sc2ranks.com/us/2627408/DrugDealer)
Replay:http://replayfu.com/r/BGrv4p

On May 20 2011 17:59 Hertingen wrote:
Realm : EU
Your name : Robotron
Hacker Name : marVin
Replay : not available (drop hack)

On May 20 2011 20:16 zakklol wrote:
Realm : NA
Your name : Zakk
Hacker Name : Blueberrys
Replay : http://replayfu.com/r/hzbVDc

On May 21 2011 05:21 Wrongspeedy wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: FadedProbe
Hacker Name: Palmer
Replay: http://www.starcraft-replay.com/replays/palmer-vs-fadedprobe-1305918437.php
Description: I've given some already. Having looked at the replay again myself I would say the evidence is scarce but @ 3:30 he looks at my probe after it built a pylon (seemingly as he takes no other action in that location).@ 13 mins he comes into my base at kind of a weird angle that happens to lead straight to my probes heading back to my Nexus, just as my units are leaving. @15 mins he makes a decision to turn around with his mutas, when he sees me blink, then turns back around (still units defending my main as well), and then back again, but decides not to check the natural. The only legit reason for this I could think of would be to bait my stalkers back up into the main then come back to the natural, but I don't even think he checks it on the way back.

On May 22 2011 09:09 HitStarcraft wrote:

Realm NA :
Your name : Hit
Hacker name (Terran player) : BigJ
replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/2232

I will like to 2nd GGzerG's post with my own game with him on ladder.
Description : he looks at my base all game longggggggggg

On May 21 2011 16:39 Highwinds wrote:
Server: North America
Your Name: Pickle
Hacker Name: LugiA
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/2187

On May 22 2011 01:58 GGzerG wrote:
Realm NA :
Your name : EverZtelecoM
Hacker name (Terran player) : BigJ
replay : [url blocked]

Server: NA
Your name : Hit
Hacker name (Terran player) : BigJ
replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/2232

On May 22 2011 15:13 Probe1 wrote:
You only have to watch this replay for about 3 seconds. BigJ literally looks directly at every single thing that Hit does through fog the entire game. Its not even worth analyzing its so blatnant.

On May 22 2011 09:24 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Server: North America
Your Name: AirbladeOran
Hacker Name: Choi
Replay: http://www.2shared.com/file/Vqs3xSQf/Choi_Cheat.html
Description: He canon rushed me with no vision of any of my buildings or units without knowing where I was on a 4 player map. When I checked sc2ranks this player is 41-0 at the time I checked right after my game. http://www.sc2ranks.com/search/exact/us/Choi

On May 22 2011 15:44 nepts2 wrote:
Thank you TL Antihack.
Now many people will be aware of these obnoxious cheaters.

On May 22 2011 20:59 CanucksJC wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: CanucksJC
Hacker Name: Imperfect.459

On May 23 2011 01:58 Torte de Lini wrote:


Have you done this before? Did Blizzard ever follow-up?
This is awesome news! Thanks!

On May 23 2011 01:23 TL AntiHack wrote:


This one is a little tough - I might have to put this for review for now.

A proxy in the right location on a 4 player map isn't enough by itself to prove that they are hacking...He never really did anything to prove he was a hacker. However if he had a maphack, and saw you via minimap, that'd make sense to me.

On May 23 2011 01:23 TL AntiHack wrote:


Yeah, this one is pretty easy. Checked up on all your timestamps and he's definately fog-scouting you. Confirmed, will add to the list.





Haha, and even if the FOW wasn't obvious enough, at 2:00 he selects your hatchery, a bunch of drones, and an overlord that we (the replay viewers) can't see unless we turn off fog of war. You're 100% correct, sir, obvious hacker. VERY obvious.



This one is a little tough - I might have to put this for review for now.

A proxy in the right location on a 4 player map isn't enough by itself to prove that they are hacking...He never really did anything to prove he was a hacker. However if he had a maphack, and saw you via minimap, that'd make sense to me.

One thing that is kind of bizarre is that he changes his scout probe's movement to out of the "default" scouting path to avoid your scout - but this COULD just be player intuition, trying to hide his scout from yours (even though it wasn't early scout) so I don't know. I'll get a few more people to watch it and see what they think, because I'm like...60/40 here and need some more info before I confirm.

What I plan on doing at the end of Season two is get this list all put together, I've been archiving the replays on my PC, I'll host the entire bundle for both NA and EU, and ship them out to Blizzard. From there, they can decide what they want to do with them, but at least someone can say "hey, I got a list of X number of hackers here, take a look."

Maybe we can, instead of having a list of hackers, make a difference in the SC2 ladder.



You're welcome <3

On May 23 2011 10:00 arb wrote:
Usually any sort of correct proxy could be considered hax, but i dunno, the way you described his scout moving seems to give it away for me lol.

But i'll watch this and find out

On May 23 2011 03:40 GGzerG wrote:
I feel pretty accomplished since I helped catch a hacker. And I literally had no intention of checking the replay till I saw hit post about BigJ, now i'm thinking about checking every replay to see how many people hack on ladder, but I play to much to do that. T_T

Hacker Name: Choi
Replay: http://www.2shared.com/file/Vqs3xSQf/Choi_Cheat.html
Description: A cannon rush, builds cannons and pylons before seeing any buildings of his opponent, however I am unsure if this is luck or not - he also moves his probe that is going to cannon rush out of the "default" scouting path to avoid the opponents scouting probe blindly...suspicious to say the least. Please watch and let me know.

On May 23 2011 15:29 Ichabod wrote:

Suspicious camera movement initially noted between 1:30-1:32, moving the camera rightward toward the enemy's base.

I believe the Choi is visibly looking at the enemy's gateway/base at 2:08-2:09 (I presume to be sure his cannonrush will still be successful)

Also seen at 3:07 looking through fog of war at the enemy's building cyber core.

Verdict: 2:08-2:09 camera movement is incriminating enough to consider this cheating

On May 23 2011 16:44 EtherealDeath wrote:
Wowowow Lugia.... I know him irl and he's on my CSL team T_T

On May 15 2011 02:18 TL AntiHack wrote:
[NEEDS REVIEW]:Hacker Name: Choi
Replay: http://www.2shared.com/file/Vqs3xSQf/Choi_Cheat.html
Description: A cannon rush, builds cannons and pylons before seeing any buildings of his opponent, however I am unsure if this is luck or not - he also moves his probe that is going to cannon rush out of the "default" scouting path to avoid the opponents scouting probe blindly...suspicious to say the least. Please watch and let me know.

On May 23 2011 23:36 Probe1 wrote:
On the surface you could defend Choi and this is a hard incident to determine. But in my opinion the building placement, both pre placing the pylon before he even reached his opponents base and warping in the initial two cannons out of sight range of the buildings before knowing where they were are conclusive. The only way he could have been so absolutely correct is to have vision of his opponents base.

He never sent out another scout. He was solely and 100% commited to cannon rushing the close air position whether it was correct or not. He has a 1 in 3 chance of being correct which can justify a blind cannon rush being successful. His pylon/cannon placements being absolutely perfect further increase the odds of this naturally occuring but I must be honest, in the back of my mind I believe there is a less than one percent chance that this was a legitimate win. I would absolutely report him for hacking.

Hackers take big risk for (presumably to them) big reward. Branding a players hackers runs risk as well, as we could always be wrong. This instance is a lot grayer than the average but I am convinced of guilt.

On May 18 2011 21:49 Fonzy wrote:
Realm : EU
Your name : Fonzy.190
Hacker Name : iMpure.224
Replay : http://hs-s.com/mods/replays/download.php?id=17
Description :
Hes staring in the Fog and msg me what im exactly doing.
Just watch it its obviously.

On May 24 2011 01:00 cbt111 wrote:



it's disgusting to see he's still not banned yet, you only have to watch a few secs of the game and it's obvious.
blizz rly sucks in banning cheaters in every game. probably to expensive to them hiring an anti cheat team etc.

On May 24 2011 00:56 Probe1 wrote:
Remember that even though you guys are actively in charge theres a lot of us that want to help you guys!

On May 24 2011 01:32 deusarba wrote:
Server:EU

Your Name:Deus

Hacker Name:SUFZTER

Replay: http://drop.sc/11182

Description: Did the zerg gas trick on both gasses to have 2 extra drones and attacked with all drones before previous scouting, he did send the overlord to scout the rest of the bases after he sen't the drones to my base, i suspect to cover his tracks when i watch the replay, becouse its pointless- overlords are slow, and if he wouldn't find me at first base the drones would get to the rest of the bases before overlord).

On May 24 2011 05:32 Mackin wrote:
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Just took a look at that replay a few times, and I have to say, its definately a toughie, because theres none of the really obvious tell tale signs of maphacking.

Obviously the big clue to be found that he may be maphacking is that he assumed you were at the bottom left position with the drone rush. I have known people to do these rushes that will take the 50/50 chance to find it within 2 scouts (i.e the overlord and the initial rush) because they think they can still take that amount of workers with their 12 drones. Its very hard to say I think although the fact he left it so late to send over the overlord to the top right hand does add a little suspect to this case.

In this Zergs defence have seen people blindly take this chance before and get it wrong, so it may be a case of them just saying WTH and going for it.

Obviously more people need to have a look to see if im missing anything

EDIT: Another thing that some *might* consider dodgy is that the player in question is clearly using the minimap a lot, because they use it to send the overlord across and the drones down to the base, whereas I and many others I know would be scrolling down and looking at where exactly we're sending our units...this could also be used possibly to try and mask the fact that the Zerg knows where the opponent has spawned and doesnt want to give away that they know, and that they arent thinking.... maybe im looking into it too much :D

EDIT2: (Verdict) :D - Theres no compelling evidence to say its maphacking, is it possible for you to look @ the players game history for more info/possible evidence?

On May 16 2011 07:08 seodoth wrote:
Realm : EU
Your name : seodoth
Hacker Name : XytoxicNL
Replay : http://www.mediafire.com/?403b7571j6tv7jv
Description : This guy has been reported in season 1, only then he was named "XitoxicNL". Now he is "XytoxicNL" ^^ very creative. He still uses maphax, not scouting, looking through fog, the works.
Obvious things to note : I had a friendly conversation with him, we talked about a lot of things, played 2 more games, in which he still hacked, and in the end I gained a lot of information about him.
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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001749886948
Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/sytseb92
Hyves (dutch facebook): http://sytseb-92.hyves.nl/
This last link is most interesting. He contacts the one who apparently produces these maphacks, so I hope blizzard investigates this. http://www.d3scene.com/forum/members/valiantchaos/xitoxicnl/#vmessage9647
He also told me he was top 150 eu and owned 4 accounts.
NOTE: btw i think its good to keep the list of reported and proven hackers and not stash them away. Having a thread for every season were going to get doesnt make any sense, why you cant have just the complete list -_- its not like there are that many that it takes up way to much space or something.

On May 15 2011 02:18 TL AntiHack wrote:
Good evidence for hacks (post replays that show things on this list):

• Repeated camera focus on the enemy (your) base when it is under fog, without giving unit orders (attack/move)
  
• Repeated camera focus on your army outside your base, but under fog, especially without giving unit orders. This doesn't mean your opponent sending a marine to a XN watchtower when you have a probe there is hacks though.
  
• Camera focus on dropships/ovies/warp prisms or any unit in an unusual location on the map for no when it is under fog and there is no reason to look there.
  

On May 24 2011 23:28 arb wrote:
well usually looking at a players game history will only show you like if they drophack or something, though you could ask players for their reps against the person or to post them on here i suppose.

On May 25 2011 00:17 Flaccid wrote:


A whole lot seems to be made of following the opponent's camera and seeing where his viewpoint wanders to. But, from my understanding, map hacks feature a camera-lock which, when activated, prevents the person's viewpoint from moving off of some locked location in replays when in reality they are viewing your base.

Obviously some people are going to be lazy and have a peek at your base without activating the camera lock, and this is a nice, easy way to verify that a dude is cheating. But with the camera-lock in mind, people shouldn't be so quick to dismiss replays in which there appeared to be no viewing into the fog, as has happened a few times in this thread.

Unfortunately it becomes much more subjective than "guy is looking at my base right now." Even without camera-lock, the use of production hacking (seeing the observer-mode production panel) and the occasional glance at the minimap makes looking at the a person's base somewhat superfluous.

Maybe it's worthwhile to also post what league the games were played in so that people can use that information when coming to their own conclusions on the replays. I mean, if a guy in Silver is showing a sixth sense in terms of army position, tech, and reaction it's going to seem a bit more dodgy.

Also, I'm thinking about loading a hack on my guest-pass account and saving some vs. CPU replays to see if anything stands out in the replay file when a hack is 100% in use. What are the odds I'll end up having to buy a new copy of the damned game once my main account gets inevitably banned? =P

Maybe it's worthwhile to also post what league the games were played in so that people can use that information when coming to their own conclusions on the replays. I mean, if a guy in Silver is showing a sixth sense in terms of army position, tech, and reaction it's going to seem a bit more dodgy.

On May 25 2011 09:20 Aetir wrote:
Realm : US
Your name : Quark
Hacker Name : Azarias
Replay : http://drop.sc/11278
Description : Pretty blatant map hacking IMO, he frequently pops over to my base throughout the game.

On May 27 2011 02:17 RepostedContent wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: Repcon
Hacker Name: HINT
Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/GLSt7k
Description: He blindly countered my 3rax all in, which would have failed horribly, I admit. I don't mind losing. Anyways, he looked at my barracks multiple times through the fog of war, when he didn't even scout my base. Here's, the kicker, he selected my barracks through the fog of war, which is impossible without maphacking.

On May 24 2011 01:13 GP wrote:

Are you for real? Blizzard's always great about hacking, and as it's been described before in this thread, they ban in waves, so he'll likely fall in the next wave.

On May 28 2011 23:26 Wiwiweb wrote:
Server: EU
Your Name: Wiwiweb
Hacker Name: KwiiMnChll

Replays:
Typhon Peaks
Shakuras Plateau (most obvious)

Description:
On both Typhon Peaks and Shakuras Plateau, guessed my position correctly and 2 gate rushed.
On Shakuras Plateau, pulled out probes the instant I was building a hidden pylon just outside of his base. He had no vision of anything.
No suspicious camera movements, though often freezing.
Is on a 12 win streak, of only 3 minutes long games.

On May 22 2011 20:59 CanucksJC wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: CanucksJC
Hacker Name: Imperfect.459

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I wouldn't normally do this if I didn't have concrete evidence or if the guy was trolling me at 4AM... but add Imperfect.459, look at his match history 3-4 weeks ago and tell me he isn't d/c hacking. I trust in TL's manpower
GLHF.

On May 27 2011 14:50 MayanSc2 wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: MayanWarrior
Hacker Name: Rem on replay, Helluva on TL fourms and vGOdien new accnt name.
Replay: [url blocked]
Description: He released a replay pack and almost all of them have hovering over oppt bases knows to counter 6pools with forge wall off before even scouting a 6pool! the replay shows massive hovering over Neans base. With no vision over fog. Has opened threads about, "how to change ip address", "how hes going to give away his GM account" and "he is no longer going by the name Rem and chaning to different name"

On May 29 2011 12:50 Greenworld wrote:
I really think people should post the division they are when they post. I watched Wubbles replay and i can say yeah it's a little suspicious that you went for a baneling bust without scouting any good terran that would have enterd in your base and noticed no expo , gas still mining speed already on the way would have owned you, but let's talk about the replay since i think you are at platinium-really low diamond at best.
The scouting scv + no scouting yeah looks like a hack(but remeber we are not talking about pros-master lvl+ play).
When i started playing noticed that a lot of players all in at lower divisions. So if i see really fast speedling= bunker, if i noticed more then 4 speedlings outside my base= PANIC= 5 bunkers , my macro will own him. Trust me baneling busts/roach rush you are not the first to do it . So in conclusion maybe it NEEDS REVIEW but i think he was a noob that got baneling busted so many times :D , i know i've been there

if i see really fast speedling= bunker, if i noticed more then 4 speedlings outside my base= PANIC= 5 bunkers

On May 24 2011 01:32 deusarba wrote:
Server:EU
Your Name:Deus
Hacker Name:SUFZTER
Replay: http://drop.sc/11182

On May 25 2011 09:20 Aetir wrote:
Realm : US
Your name : Quark
Hacker Name : Azarias
Replay : http://drop.sc/11278

On May 27 2011 02:17 RepostedContent wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: Repcon
Hacker Name: HINT
Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/GLSt7k

On May 27 2011 14:50 MayanSc2 wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: MayanWarrior
Hacker Name: Rem on replay, Helluva on TL fourms and vGOdien new accnt name.
Replay: [url blocked]

On May 28 2011 07:30 Zidane wrote:
Realm : US
Your name : Ziddy
Hacker Name : Roscoe
Replay : http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=211268
Description :

An interesting game where he leaves after I cannon his hatch. Thing is, he never saw the cannons, so I got suspicious. Looking a little bit more into the replay you can see him staring at my buildings through the fog @
3:30
3:35

99% sure he hacks but you guys can check it out for yourselves. He's a midlevel masters
http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/884547/Roscoe

On May 28 2011 23:26 Wiwiweb wrote:
Server: EU
Your Name: Wiwiweb
Hacker Name: KwiiMnChll
Replays:
Typhon Peaks
Shakuras Plateau (most obvious)

On May 29 2011 03:43 Wubbles wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: Wubbles
Hacker Name: SGTofLuck
Replay: http://drop.sc/11524

On May 29 2011 15:17 Kintaro wrote:
Username -Kintaro
Hackers Names -Blueberrys, KCBadger, ShOwie
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/3364

On May 29 2011 23:26 FAOU wrote:
I find it sad that the topic starter believes things so easily and accuses people unjustly without double checking. I reviewed his winstreak and it's clear he is just a smurf. If you take the time to look at the build orders he makes units and ends the game quickly. All his opponents were bronze or silver during that streak and he is currently in high platinum. I hope you will take the time to double check in the future. Because it is clear that he does/did not deserve to be banned from these forums.

On May 30 2011 06:54 zboss wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: Zboss.446
Hacker Name: Roscoe
Replay:http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=211759

On May 30 2011 07:33 LicH. wrote:
!confirm on vGOdien

Played him - scouted me close air positions first, 4 gates me and fails, then IMMEDIATELY after this, he beelines it to my hidden expo with no prior vision of it. I call him out on it, he angrily starts saying how he is streaming with 2,000 viewers, and how I am a no life. Shame I didn't save the rep. I'm sure other ppl have experiences like this with vGOdien.

On May 30 2011 11:03 KingofHearts wrote:
just played a confirmed master rank maphacker .

Server: NA
Your Name: Maddox
Hacker Name: Leverage
Replay: http://www.2shared.com/file/OfrLxiMf/vs_terran_master_hacker.html
Description: proxy rax without scouting and rine scv cheese. he had never scouted my base before attacking.

Replay 1: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=211268
Description: Ragequits after his ramp is pylon blocked without scouting it, I am unconvinced from this replay, as he sees the probe outside his nat for a split second, and can easily judge a cannon rush or pylon wall is there - also loses the selection on the probe when it goes back into fog of war

Replay 2:http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=211759
Description: This replay, however, seems to be a lot more convicting of maphacks. Blind counters and scouts DTs around on the map, as well as pauses the game around 13:30ish and pans around his opponents base to size up his army. Blind scouts and kills a hidden DT near his third/fourth...very suspicious on this one. I'm pretty convinced on this second replay but give them a watch and let me know what you think.

On May 31 2011 10:52 Probe1 wrote:
[NEEDS REVIEW]Hacker Name : Roscoe


Everything to me says too lucky, maphack. The evo chamber and spore crawler in front of his base and within 20 seconds of the first colossus coming out he puts down a spire and without hesitation pumps out corruptors. He attacked the natural and the third miraculously while they were still warping in. I agree with all of the points in question. Hax0rz most leet. Oh and he never once scouts with the overlord behind the natural and never scouts the main (Even with a drone at the start). Know anyone else that got to masters like that?

On June 01 2011 08:27 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
Why isn't this thread in the SC2 general section? How is this teamliquid community? Curious.

On June 02 2011 04:01 Zidane wrote:
Well the first rep on Roscoe was pretty conclusive already for me, you were only looking at him looing for my pylons at his natural, but he actually pans down to my main and checks to confirm i had a forge. No one ever randomly pans their camera to look at a starting position you never scouted looking at specific areas for buildings through fog of war.

On June 02 2011 09:20 raz` wrote:
Found this thread with SIXTY TWO PAGES of posts on:

WEBSITE

Wow, it's more widespread than I thought - what a shame. Can't Blizzard shut sites like that down?

I bet some of those idiots have their in-game name the same as their forum name, too.

On June 03 2011 03:36 Ravencruiser wrote:
Just played this game.

Server:NA
Your Name:Bisu
Hacker Name:Quillo
Replay:http://drop.sc/11948/d
Description: PvP, Map is Shakuras Plateau. He sends a probe outside my natural behind the vision grass (lol what's it called) and proxies 2 gate. Probes goes in my main, zealots stream in, I leave the game. Pretty straightforward. Checked his match history, every PvP he plays is the same duration ~4 minutes for this guy, with him winning.

Should I report him? If so, how do I do so?

On June 03 2011 03:47 port wrote:



Well for me , just for the replay its not hacking cuz shakuras is only cross or close air and that spot is exactly in between.. dunno about the other maps tbh but on 2 player maps 2 gate proxy is quite common

On June 01 2011 09:36 Torenhire wrote:


Read your signature.




Just kidding. :p

I dunno, I just followed the Season 1 thread's location and stuck it in here. If it's better suited to SC2 General, a mod can move it. Doesn't really matter so much to me. Personally I think it's fine either way

On June 03 2011 03:36 Ravencruiser wrote:
Just played this game.

Server:NA
Your Name:Bisu
Hacker Name:Quillo
Replay:http://drop.sc/11948/d
Description: PvP, Map is Shakuras Plateau. He sends a probe outside my natural behind the vision grass (lol what's it called) and proxies 2 gate. Probes goes in my main, zealots stream in, I leave the game. Pretty straightforward. Checked his match history, every PvP he plays is the same duration ~4 minutes for this guy, with him winning.

Should I report him? If so, how do I do so?

Posting this for a friend who doesn't have a TL account.

Server: EU
Your Name: Pazu
Hacker Name: FatCaT
Description: Guy doesn't scout at all on metalopolis. My friend goes for 3 rax all in and FatCaT throws down 3 spines. Pulls ALL drones to his natural right before the attack without seing anything.

FORMAT
Server: SEA
Your Name: Khazad
Hacker Name: AweSomTerran
Description:
blatant maphacks, no scouting and looking at my base thru fog of war, blind counters my opener to
hopefully this works, got no idea what im doing xD

Server:EU
Your Name:Geiko
Hacker Name: forMASTER
Description:
-doesn't scout
-blind counters my tech
-doesn't look for proxy pylons EXCEPT the one place i put it
-Constantly looks through FOW at my base

How obvious can this get ...