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GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 16:13:29
May 23 2011 16:13 GMT
#101
On May 24 2011 01:00 cbt111 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 21:49 Fonzy wrote:
Realm : EU
Your name : Fonzy.190
Hacker Name : iMpure.224
Replay : http://hs-s.com/mods/replays/download.php?id=17
Description :
Hes staring in the Fog and msg me what im exactly doing.
Just watch it its obviously.



it's disgusting to see he's still not banned yet, you only have to watch a few secs of the game and it's obvious.
blizz rly sucks in banning cheaters in every game. probably to expensive to them hiring an anti cheat team etc.

Are you for real? Blizzard's always great about hacking, and as it's been described before in this thread, they ban in waves, so he'll likely fall in the next wave.
deusarba
Profile Joined May 2011
Croatia27 Posts
May 23 2011 16:32 GMT
#102
Server:EU

Your Name:Deus

Hacker Name:SUFZTER

Replay: http://drop.sc/11182

Description: Did the zerg gas trick on both gasses to have 2 extra drones and attacked with all drones before previous scouting, he did send the overlord to scout the rest of the bases after he sen't the drones to my base, i suspect to cover his tracks when i watch the replay, becouse its pointless- overlords are slow, and if he wouldn't find me at first base the drones would get to the rest of the bases before overlord).
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
May 23 2011 16:35 GMT
#103
On May 24 2011 00:56 Probe1 wrote:
Remember that even though you guys are actively in charge theres a lot of us that want to help you guys!


No, no, I hope I didn't make it sound otherwise!

That's exactly why when I'm unsure or just feel like having a couple more verdicts, I throw up the NEEDS REVIEW tag. Like, some of the reps that are super obvious and easy I'll skip over, but I would much, much, rather have more than just my own eyes on a replay that is more "Hmm..that was kind of suspicious..." because the legitimacy and accuracy only improves.

Like, if we go back to our Choi replay, if he had built a pylon, then scouted buildings, then build cannons, I'd say no hack - could just be luck / insight / chance he moved his probe's scout path at that point. If you want to take a look at another really difficult replay, download the "ayyildz" (going off memory there, name is VERY similar) replay and take a look at that. He does things that would make you say "oh yeah, maphack for sure." and then you're all set in the head that he's maphacking...then he does something absurdly stupid if he DID have maphacks, and you're second guessing yourself all over again.

I very much do appreciate the help - It makes my job alot easier when people watch the replays before I get a chance to and start jotting down timestamps and what happens. Allows me to speed through a replay, confirm them, and then just watch a straight to finish on an x2/x4 to see if anything got missed. I also appreciate people who jump right on the NEEDS REVIEW replays because they get turned around pretty quickly (so far) and it's a nice, simple, yet helpful way to give back to the SC2 community. It not only eliminates the variance in our list but it also gives people a good way to learn what a hack looks like, so they can start reviewing their own replays and we get less "herp derp I got proxied on Xel'Naga HACKS" and more of the real hackers.

Like I said, the more people we catch the better, as I am definitely compiling all of these replays into a file and sending them off to Blizzard...so hopefully whoever slips beneath Warden will get picked up by us here.

Thanks everybody! <3
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
May 23 2011 17:48 GMT
#104
On May 24 2011 01:32 deusarba wrote:
Server:EU

Your Name:Deus

Hacker Name:SUFZTER

Replay: http://drop.sc/11182

Description: Did the zerg gas trick on both gasses to have 2 extra drones and attacked with all drones before previous scouting, he did send the overlord to scout the rest of the bases after he sen't the drones to my base, i suspect to cover his tracks when i watch the replay, becouse its pointless- overlords are slow, and if he wouldn't find me at first base the drones would get to the rest of the bases before overlord).


There is a slight possibility that he could be cheating, but his overlord movement and drone movement make this case far from conclusive. It is quite plausible that he's just cheesing on the ladder.

Verdict: Impossible to prove that he is cheating from this replay, would require additional replays with decisively suspicious activity.

(Btw, always scout close position on Metalopolis first, since stuff like this could happen)
deusarba
Profile Joined May 2011
Croatia27 Posts
May 23 2011 18:09 GMT
#105
On May 24 2011 01:32 deusarba wrote:
Server:EU

Your Name:Deus

Hacker Name:SUFZTER

Replay: http://drop.sc/11182

Description: Did the zerg gas trick on both gasses to have 2 extra drones and attacked with all drones before previous scouting, he did send the overlord to scout the rest of the bases after he sen't the drones to my base, i suspect to cover his tracks when i watch the replay, becouse its pointless- overlords are slow, and if he wouldn't find me at first base the drones would get to the rest of the bases before overlord).


There is a slight possibility that he could be cheating, but his overlord movement and drone movement make this case far from conclusive. It is quite plausible that he's just cheesing on the ladder.

Verdict: Impossible to prove that he is cheating from this replay, would require additional replays with decisively suspicious activity.[quote]

Agree, for further refernce (if that player would become known on this thread for that kind of things) I thought it would be good to post replay becouse i wasn't 100% myself.
Mackin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland181 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 20:42:58
May 23 2011 20:32 GMT
#106
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On May 24 2011 01:32 deusarba wrote:
Server:EU

Your Name:Deus

Hacker Name:SUFZTER

Replay: http://drop.sc/11182

Description: Did the zerg gas trick on both gasses to have 2 extra drones and attacked with all drones before previous scouting, he did send the overlord to scout the rest of the bases after he sen't the drones to my base, i suspect to cover his tracks when i watch the replay, becouse its pointless- overlords are slow, and if he wouldn't find me at first base the drones would get to the rest of the bases before overlord).



Just took a look at that replay a few times, and I have to say, its definately a toughie, because theres none of the really obvious tell tale signs of maphacking.

Obviously the big clue to be found that he may be maphacking is that he assumed you were at the bottom left position with the drone rush. I have known people to do these rushes that will take the 50/50 chance to find it within 2 scouts (i.e the overlord and the initial rush) because they think they can still take that amount of workers with their 12 drones. Its very hard to say I think although the fact he left it so late to send over the overlord to the top right hand does add a little suspect to this case.

In this Zergs defence have seen people blindly take this chance before and get it wrong, so it may be a case of them just saying WTH and going for it.

Obviously more people need to have a look to see if im missing anything

EDIT: Another thing that some *might* consider dodgy is that the player in question is clearly using the minimap a lot, because they use it to send the overlord across and the drones down to the base, whereas I and many others I know would be scrolling down and looking at where exactly we're sending our units...this could also be used possibly to try and mask the fact that the Zerg knows where the opponent has spawned and doesnt want to give away that they know, and that they arent thinking.... maybe im looking into it too much :D

EDIT2: (Verdict) :D - Theres no compelling evidence to say its maphacking, is it possible for you to look @ the players game history for more info/possible evidence?
Serenity
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 24 2011 14:28 GMT
#107
On May 24 2011 05:32 Mackin wrote:
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On May 24 2011 01:32 deusarba wrote:
Server:EU

Your Name:Deus

Hacker Name:SUFZTER

Replay: http://drop.sc/11182

Description: Did the zerg gas trick on both gasses to have 2 extra drones and attacked with all drones before previous scouting, he did send the overlord to scout the rest of the bases after he sen't the drones to my base, i suspect to cover his tracks when i watch the replay, becouse its pointless- overlords are slow, and if he wouldn't find me at first base the drones would get to the rest of the bases before overlord).



Just took a look at that replay a few times, and I have to say, its definately a toughie, because theres none of the really obvious tell tale signs of maphacking.

Obviously the big clue to be found that he may be maphacking is that he assumed you were at the bottom left position with the drone rush. I have known people to do these rushes that will take the 50/50 chance to find it within 2 scouts (i.e the overlord and the initial rush) because they think they can still take that amount of workers with their 12 drones. Its very hard to say I think although the fact he left it so late to send over the overlord to the top right hand does add a little suspect to this case.

In this Zergs defence have seen people blindly take this chance before and get it wrong, so it may be a case of them just saying WTH and going for it.

Obviously more people need to have a look to see if im missing anything

EDIT: Another thing that some *might* consider dodgy is that the player in question is clearly using the minimap a lot, because they use it to send the overlord across and the drones down to the base, whereas I and many others I know would be scrolling down and looking at where exactly we're sending our units...this could also be used possibly to try and mask the fact that the Zerg knows where the opponent has spawned and doesnt want to give away that they know, and that they arent thinking.... maybe im looking into it too much :D

EDIT2: (Verdict) :D - Theres no compelling evidence to say its maphacking, is it possible for you to look @ the players game history for more info/possible evidence?

well usually looking at a players game history will only show you like if they drophack or something, though you could ask players for their reps against the person or to post them on here i suppose.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 15:07:47
May 24 2011 15:07 GMT
#108
On May 16 2011 07:08 seodoth wrote:
Realm : EU
Your name : seodoth
Hacker Name : XytoxicNL
Replay : http://www.mediafire.com/?403b7571j6tv7jv
Description : This guy has been reported in season 1, only then he was named "XitoxicNL". Now he is "XytoxicNL" ^^ very creative. He still uses maphax, not scouting, looking through fog, the works.
Obvious things to note : I had a friendly conversation with him, we talked about a lot of things, played 2 more games, in which he still hacked, and in the end I gained a lot of information about him.
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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001749886948
Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/sytseb92
Hyves (dutch facebook): http://sytseb-92.hyves.nl/
This last link is most interesting. He contacts the one who apparently produces these maphacks, so I hope blizzard investigates this. http://www.d3scene.com/forum/members/valiantchaos/xitoxicnl/#vmessage9647
He also told me he was top 150 eu and owned 4 accounts.
NOTE: btw i think its good to keep the list of reported and proven hackers and not stash them away. Having a thread for every season were going to get doesnt make any sense, why you cant have just the complete list -_- its not like there are that many that it takes up way to much space or something.

Excuse me, i know this guy is a confirmed hacker, but since when is it ok to post all the social network site links to this person and to make it even worse post a screenshot which contains his email adres?

and to top it off not get edited out by a mod?? a mod should edit that out. cmon.
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8898 Posts
May 24 2011 15:17 GMT
#109
On May 15 2011 02:18 TL AntiHack wrote:
Good evidence for hacks (post replays that show things on this list):
  • Repeated camera focus on the enemy (your) base when it is under fog, without giving unit orders (attack/move)
  • Repeated camera focus on your army outside your base, but under fog, especially without giving unit orders. This doesn't mean your opponent sending a marine to a XN watchtower when you have a probe there is hacks though.
  • Camera focus on dropships/ovies/warp prisms or any unit in an unusual location on the map for no when it is under fog and there is no reason to look there.



A whole lot seems to be made of following the opponent's camera and seeing where his viewpoint wanders to. But, from my understanding, map hacks feature a camera-lock which, when activated, prevents the person's viewpoint from moving off of some locked location in replays when in reality they are viewing your base.

Obviously some people are going to be lazy and have a peek at your base without activating the camera lock, and this is a nice, easy way to verify that a dude is cheating. But with the camera-lock in mind, people shouldn't be so quick to dismiss replays in which there appeared to be no viewing into the fog, as has happened a few times in this thread.

Unfortunately it becomes much more subjective than "guy is looking at my base right now." Even without camera-lock, the use of production hacking (seeing the observer-mode production panel) and the occasional glance at the minimap makes looking at the a person's base somewhat superfluous.

Maybe it's worthwhile to also post what league the games were played in so that people can use that information when coming to their own conclusions on the replays. I mean, if a guy in Silver is showing a sixth sense in terms of army position, tech, and reaction it's going to seem a bit more dodgy.

Also, I'm thinking about loading a hack on my guest-pass account and saving some vs. CPU replays to see if anything stands out in the replay file when a hack is 100% in use. What are the odds I'll end up having to buy a new copy of the damned game once my main account gets inevitably banned? =P

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Mackin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland181 Posts
May 24 2011 15:26 GMT
#110
On May 24 2011 23:28 arb wrote:
well usually looking at a players game history will only show you like if they drophack or something, though you could ask players for their reps against the person or to post them on here i suppose.

Yeah sorry I didnt specify that but thats what I meant to ask anyone else did they find anything suspicious
Serenity
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 24 2011 23:19 GMT
#111
On May 25 2011 00:17 Flaccid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 02:18 TL AntiHack wrote:
Good evidence for hacks (post replays that show things on this list):
  • Repeated camera focus on the enemy (your) base when it is under fog, without giving unit orders (attack/move)
  • Repeated camera focus on your army outside your base, but under fog, especially without giving unit orders. This doesn't mean your opponent sending a marine to a XN watchtower when you have a probe there is hacks though.
  • Camera focus on dropships/ovies/warp prisms or any unit in an unusual location on the map for no when it is under fog and there is no reason to look there.



A whole lot seems to be made of following the opponent's camera and seeing where his viewpoint wanders to. But, from my understanding, map hacks feature a camera-lock which, when activated, prevents the person's viewpoint from moving off of some locked location in replays when in reality they are viewing your base.

Obviously some people are going to be lazy and have a peek at your base without activating the camera lock, and this is a nice, easy way to verify that a dude is cheating. But with the camera-lock in mind, people shouldn't be so quick to dismiss replays in which there appeared to be no viewing into the fog, as has happened a few times in this thread.

Unfortunately it becomes much more subjective than "guy is looking at my base right now." Even without camera-lock, the use of production hacking (seeing the observer-mode production panel) and the occasional glance at the minimap makes looking at the a person's base somewhat superfluous.

Maybe it's worthwhile to also post what league the games were played in so that people can use that information when coming to their own conclusions on the replays. I mean, if a guy in Silver is showing a sixth sense in terms of army position, tech, and reaction it's going to seem a bit more dodgy.

Also, I'm thinking about loading a hack on my guest-pass account and saving some vs. CPU replays to see if anything stands out in the replay file when a hack is 100% in use. What are the odds I'll end up having to buy a new copy of the damned game once my main account gets inevitably banned? =P


If you wanna do something for the good of mand king and show us what camera lock looks like exactly, then that would be pretty nice.

Id donate you a guest account but im out of guest passes.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Iksf
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 23:48:04
May 24 2011 23:45 GMT
#112


Maybe it's worthwhile to also post what league the games were played in so that people can use that information when coming to their own conclusions on the replays. I mean, if a guy in Silver is showing a sixth sense in terms of army position, tech, and reaction it's going to seem a bit more dodgy.




Yea but equally it would be weirder for a masters player to blind counter a build without scouting than a silver leaguer due to the silver league player probably not knowing what builds best counter what / going into a game with a build planned.

Also yea as said theres a huge flaw in the game that allows observer panel to be brought up in game, took like 20 seconds on the dark side of the internet to get a program for it so its not exactly low profile, according to coders i know its just a epicly huge flaw in SC2
Aetir
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada21 Posts
May 25 2011 00:20 GMT
#113
Realm : US
Your name : Quark
Hacker Name : Azarias
Replay : http://drop.sc/11278
Description : Pretty blatant map hacking IMO, he frequently pops over to my base throughout the game.
"Spaceships don't come equipped with rearview mirrors"
Mackin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland181 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 01:24:20
May 25 2011 01:14 GMT
#114
On May 25 2011 09:20 Aetir wrote:
Realm : US
Your name : Quark
Hacker Name : Azarias
Replay : http://drop.sc/11278
Description : Pretty blatant map hacking IMO, he frequently pops over to my base throughout the game.

Definately Maphacking IMO. Im pretty sure he wasnt looking at the scenery for half the game...

Never Scouts you at all, not even with initial overlord, and frequently looks over at your base over and over with no vision shown.

His defence might be that "why wouldnt he have dealt with that hellion drop in advance" But Im pretty sure he isnt a good player because he has pretty low APM and makes hardly any units.
His poor play would explain why he didnt deal with the hellion drop in advance if he had mack hacks - They have an overlord scouting and obviously the player isnt using the minimap much at all or they would have seen it coming, plus the fact they never scout you and look constantly over at you would support this theory.

Maphacker...

Serenity
RepostedContent
Profile Joined May 2011
1 Post
May 26 2011 17:17 GMT
#115
Server: NA
Your Name: Repcon
Hacker Name:
Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/GLSt7k
Description: He blindly countered my 3rax all in, which would have failed horribly, I admit. I don't mind losing. Anyways, he looked at my barracks multiple times through the fog of war, when he didn't even scout my base. Here's, the kicker, he selected my barracks through the fog of war, which is impossible without maphacking.
nicotn
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 17:59:44
May 26 2011 17:59 GMT
#116
On May 27 2011 02:17 RepostedContent wrote:
Server: NA
Your Name: Repcon
Hacker Name: HINT
Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/GLSt7k
Description: He blindly countered my 3rax all in, which would have failed horribly, I admit. I don't mind losing. Anyways, he looked at my barracks multiple times through the fog of war, when he didn't even scout my base. Here's, the kicker, he selected my barracks through the fog of war, which is impossible without maphacking.


definitely a hacker, obvious FoW scouting, checks your base from time to time, map hack counter 5 rax. bunker before marines.

Add this guy to the list


And hello guys, i will help out from now and then
cbt111
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 02:11:49
May 27 2011 02:10 GMT
#117
On May 24 2011 01:13 GP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 01:00 cbt111 wrote:
On May 18 2011 21:49 Fonzy wrote:
Realm : EU
Your name : Fonzy.190
Hacker Name : iMpure.224
Replay : http://hs-s.com/mods/replays/download.php?id=17
Description :
Hes staring in the Fog and msg me what im exactly doing.
Just watch it its obviously.



it's disgusting to see he's still not banned yet, you only have to watch a few secs of the game and it's obvious.
blizz rly sucks in banning cheaters in every game. probably to expensive to them hiring an anti cheat team etc.

Are you for real? Blizzard's always great about hacking, and as it's been described before in this thread, they ban in waves, so he'll likely fall in the next wave.



iMpure.224 still not banned, still cheating. Eager to see how long it takes blizz in sc2. In wow it usually took them a month or longer to ban a farmbot, however they received money from the bot users so they had a reason to ignore it.
MayanSc2
Profile Joined March 2010
United States198 Posts
May 27 2011 05:50 GMT
#118
Server: NA
Your Name: MayanWarrior
Hacker Name: Rem on replay, Helluva on TL fourms and vGOdien new accnt name.
Replay: [url blocked]
Description: He released a replay pack and almost all of them have hovering over oppt bases knows to counter 6pools with forge wall off before even scouting a 6pool! the replay shows massive hovering over Neans base. With no vision over fog. Has opened threads about, "how to change ip address", "how hes going to give away his GM account" and "he is no longer going by the name Rem and chaning to different name"
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 22:30:32
May 27 2011 22:30 GMT
#119
Realm : US
Your name : Ziddy
Hacker Name : Roscoe
Replay : http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=211268
Description :

An interesting game where he leaves after I cannon his hatch. Thing is, he never saw the cannons, so I got suspicious. Looking a little bit more into the replay you can see him staring at my buildings through the fog @
3:30
3:35

99% sure he hacks but you guys can check it out for yourselves. He's a midlevel masters
http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/884547/Roscoe
CreatorGX
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States121 Posts
May 28 2011 02:45 GMT
#120
While not a hacker's profile necessarily, I did stumble upon a page that is undoubtably one of the producers of one if not more of the drop hacks: http://www.d3scene.com/forum/starcraft-2-bots/43996-qazzys-sc2-multi-lossbot-51.html

They call it "Qazzy's SC2 Multi Lossbot". I've already sent it to Blizzard, but I've no idea if they'll get back to me, and I figured this would be the most appropriate place to put this.
http://creatorgx.blogspot.com/
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