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Okies!
Server: NA Your Name: FadedProbe Hacker Name: Palmer Replay: http://www.starcraft-replay.com/replays/palmer-vs-fadedprobe-1305918437.php Description: I've given some already. Having looked at the replay again myself I would say the evidence is scarce but @ 3:30 he looks at my probe after it built a pylon (seemingly as he takes no other action in that location).@ 13 mins he comes into my base at kind of a weird angle that happens to lead straight to my probes heading back to my Nexus, just as my units are leaving. @15 mins he makes a decision to turn around with his mutas, when he sees me blink, then turns back around (still units defending my main as well), and then back again, but decides not to check the natural. The only legit reason for this I could think of would be to bait my stalkers back up into the main then come back to the natural, but I don't even think he checks it on the way back. Just most of the game with the mutas was fishy. I kill like none of them until I call him out. Its like everytime my units move out of position his mutas move in -_-'. Could have just been luck or skill or whatev, he didn't seem like a great player (nor am I) but his Muta timing seemed ungodly, which is all you need vs Toss on Scrap Station (unless you go phoenix I guess). Next time I need to remember to keep my mouth shut maybe.
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Calm down on calling people offensive shit in this thread for misjudging a replay.
No hesitation in reporting you -_-;
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Server: North America Your Name: Pickle Hacker Name: LugiA Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/2187 Description: I do a 3 rax marine SCV all in on Shakuras Plateau. The Player never scouts my base once and never attempted to. The player looked through the fog of war at my main / bottom of ramp where i built stuff at these times:
(1:02 Directly on Command Center, 1:04 directly on depot as it starts at bottom of ramp, 2:04 Literally the second i put my 2nd rax down he pans on top of it, 2:47 he pans on top of all 3 of my rax + depot, 4:17 pans on top of all 3 rax again)
Then at 4:05 he throws down 3 blind spine crawlers with 0 scouting info at all. And he makes 10 Zerglings.
I may be wrong here, but someone please check for me . It seems a little strange to me for someone to do all this without scouting anything. 0 scouting drones. 0 overlords near anything i have. I've never heard of someone just throwing up 3 spine crawlers and making 10+ lings without seeing a thing. Funny part is I like to call everyone I play vs a map hacker during the games to see what they say and 99% of people freak out at that, yet this guy does nothing.
My opponent showed signs of all of these:
Repeated camera focus on the enemy (your) base when it is under fog, without giving unit orders (attack/move) Repeated camera focus on your army outside your base, but under fog, especially without giving unit orders. This doesn't mean your opponent sending a marine to a XN watchtower when you have a probe there is hacks though. Camera focus on dropships/ovies/warp prisms or any unit in an unusual location on the map for no when it is under fog and there is no reason to look there.
Also after I kinda raged a bit in game by saying Why did he build 3 blind spines he said this to me. And Next to the chat box I have a game of him playing another terran where he doesn't do that. And in that entire game he didn't build a spine.
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Should add DrugDealer to the confirmed list. Here's another suspicious (to say the least) replay of him map hacking.
Server: NA Your Name: Sushi Hacker Name: DrugDealer Replay: http://drop.sc/11046 Description: RZvZ on Shattered Temple. He never scouts my main base and repeatedly looks through the FOW at my main and natural without issuing any commands. The first time he has his larva selected as hes looking into my base and doesn't even send the overlord towards my base until much later. He also looks where my army is rallied through the FOW. He prepares an all-in defense making excessive amounts of queens and spines despite never scouting my baneling nest. As the game reaches the later stages, he continues to look into my base without ever scouting it.
edit: well he could see all my lings coming out of the base with the spotter ovie near my ramp. So, his defensive reaction is warranted. Doesn't change the fact that he is constantly looking through the FOW at my base and army though.
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On May 21 2011 17:16 jiabung wrote:Should add DrugDealer to the confirmed list. Here's another suspicious (to say the least) replay of him map hacking. Server: NA Your Name: Sushi Hacker Name: DrugDealer Replay: http://drop.sc/11046Description: RZvZ on Shattered Temple. He never scouts my main base and repeatedly looks through the FOW at my main and natural without issuing any commands. The first time he has his larva selected as hes looking into my base and doesn't even send the overlord towards my base until much later. He also looks where my army is rallied through the FOW. He prepares an all-in defense making excessive amounts of queens and spines despite never scouting my baneling nest and only seeing a handful of lings. As the game reaches the later stages, he continues to look into my base without ever scouting it.
that sounds like the spanishiwa build to me...
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Realm NA : Your name : EverZtelecoM Hacker name (Terran player) : BigJ replay : [url blocked]
Description : he looks at my base all game, obvious hacker.
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On May 21 2011 17:26 TheBlueMeaner wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2011 17:16 jiabung wrote:Should add DrugDealer to the confirmed list. Here's another suspicious (to say the least) replay of him map hacking. Server: NA Your Name: Sushi Hacker Name: DrugDealer Replay: http://drop.sc/11046Description: RZvZ on Shattered Temple. He never scouts my main base and repeatedly looks through the FOW at my main and natural without issuing any commands. The first time he has his larva selected as hes looking into my base and doesn't even send the overlord towards my base until much later. He also looks where my army is rallied through the FOW. He prepares an all-in defense making excessive amounts of queens and spines despite never scouting my baneling nest and only seeing a handful of lings. As the game reaches the later stages, he continues to look into my base without ever scouting it. that sounds like the spanishiwa build to me...
TheBlueMeaner, please L2R previous posts before you write such comments. There are three different people already with replays/analysis backing up his hacking.
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Realm NA : Your name : Hit Hacker name (Terran player) : BigJ replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/2232
I will like to 2nd GGzerG's post with my own game with him on ladder. Description : he looks at my base all game longggggggggg
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I never can understand how this is a problem now, if blizzard are gonna give every client in the game all info about whats going on theyl never beat hackers. And no one say anything about loading times or bandwidth, in WoW stealthed characters arnt loaded until theyr seen and never been any complaints about stealthed players not having loaded after they start attacking you
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On May 22 2011 09:44 Iksf wrote: I never can understand how this is a problem now, if blizzard are gonna give every client in the game all info about whats going on theyl never beat hackers. And no one say anything about loading times or bandwidth, in WoW stealthed characters arnt loaded until theyr seen and never been any complaints about stealthed players not having loaded after they start attacking you
What the...!?
What on earth are you on about?
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On May 22 2011 09:53 Deja Thoris wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2011 09:44 Iksf wrote: I never can understand how this is a problem now, if blizzard are gonna give every client in the game all info about whats going on theyl never beat hackers. And no one say anything about loading times or bandwidth, in WoW stealthed characters arnt loaded until theyr seen and never been any complaints about stealthed players not having loaded after they start attacking you What the...!? What on earth are you on about?
He's saying that the clients themselves should be exclusive from each other until units come out from the fog of war, meaning that anything under fog will not be "shown"/"communicated" to the other client(s) so hacks that circumvent the fog won't do anything at all for the hacker.
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On May 20 2011 11:55 Torenhire wrote:
Production tab hack is a little tough for us to consider, the ZvZ with Antihack or whatever his name was (going off memory here!) watch that one, that's a replay that one could say "Production tab hack obviously" because one zerg player like...6 pools and he 9 pools "for no reason" ....well ZvZ 6pool all-in is not uncommon on ladder so some players just play safe for no reason. I initially thought this might have been a production tab hack but Arb and I bounced ideas back and forth and eventually agreed that it was just safe play and not a hack at all.
I'm going to have to side with the accuser on this one. Every zerg player knows that 14 gas 14 pool beats any form of cheese. You don't even need a spine crawler most of the time. If you are afraid of cheese, you just don't hatch first. I'm only in gold and i know this. I cannot imagine any Masters player thinks that a nine pool with a spine crawler is efficient in any way.
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First off I love this thread, the investigatives of seeing how cheaters work is fun IMO.
I took a look at the Ayyildiz replay a few times and I checked the timing of when the zerg looked through the FOW. Im pretty sure the overlord @ 1.17 wouldnt have scouted the potential base there, so the fact the player then automatically assumes the base is at the 9 oclock is very suspicious.
Later on in the game the pull back when the siege comes is another tell tale sign. I really think it is a maphacker, but just a low level player
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On May 20 2011 17:21 nepts2 wrote: FORMAT Server: NA Your Name:iHacker.825 Hacker Name:DrugDealer (http://sc2ranks.com/us/2627408/DrugDealer) Replay:http://replayfu.com/r/BGrv4p
Even ignoring the bizarre army movements (like not using hellions + finding expo, and not sending in cloak banshees - sometimes people do weird stuff) the FOW watching was really rampant in this match. Easy confirm.
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On May 20 2011 17:59 Hertingen wrote: Realm : EU Your name : Robotron Hacker Name : marVin Replay : not available (drop hack)
He hasn't really done.....anything since then. Not going to report just yet. We'll see if people come streaming in with drophack complaints vs him.
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Eh, if he didn't peek at the probe I might dismiss this one as luck - the fact the he picked out and followed your probe for a moment in the FOW it what is causing him to be confirmed.
Also, make sure you scout what is ON the creep, and not just where the zerg is. Hehe. >< Stupid 6 pools.
Alright, I'll stop being lazy to avoid quadruple posts.
On May 21 2011 05:21 Wrongspeedy wrote:Server: NA Your Name: FadedProbe Hacker Name: Palmer Replay: http://www.starcraft-replay.com/replays/palmer-vs-fadedprobe-1305918437.phpDescription: I've given some already. Having looked at the replay again myself I would say the evidence is scarce but @ 3:30 he looks at my probe after it built a pylon (seemingly as he takes no other action in that location).@ 13 mins he comes into my base at kind of a weird angle that happens to lead straight to my probes heading back to my Nexus, just as my units are leaving. @15 mins he makes a decision to turn around with his mutas, when he sees me blink, then turns back around (still units defending my main as well), and then back again, but decides not to check the natural. The only legit reason for this I could think of would be to bait my stalkers back up into the main then come back to the natural, but I don't even think he checks it on the way back.
3:30 -- He doesn't actually look at your probe, he just kind of pans down his ramp. Could just be his mouse made him scroll cause he was re-adjusting his butt in his chair or something - one reason I don't think he is a hacker is that he sees your probe and starts scouting ALL OVER his base with his lings, and tries to plop a hatch down on top of your pylon - not saying that hackers can't do this, but most of the time they'd "get lucky" and find the pylon first.
13:00 -- Dismissing this as bad luck for you, and awesome luck for him. He goes in to attack your forge / robo and the SC gods are smiling upon him and it just happens to be right where your probes are transferring through. He was heading there way before you moved your probes. Just one of those "oh god damnit" moments. Watching it from your camera, you actually can see the mutas flying through your base before your probes are anywhere close. Watch your minimap! Haha, jk <3
15:00 -- A little odd, but I don't know what he was doing or thinking. And because of the rest of the replay, I'm just going to dismiss it as him making some crazy decision in his head because of just how he plays. Maybe he didn't want to get trapped by blink stalkers back to your main, or didn't want to check your nat again assuming you just moved all your blink stalkers there. I think he was just more focused on getting his two little muta groups into one big muta group more than harassing probes.
I'm going to say no maphack here, I think he just (through sheer luck) hit you at all the perfect times. He didn't react AT ALL to your units punching through the center of the map, either.
Edit: stopping here for tonight. I was at a LAN since 11am this morning and it's now approaching 2am the next day. I'm REALLY sleepy. Promise I will do these when I wake up tomorrow morning!
Thanks for pointing things out in those first few reps, Demonace. It's handy just to FFWD to those points and just confirm that there is evidence there or not.
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On May 22 2011 09:09 HitStarcraft wrote:Realm NA : Your name : Hit Hacker name (Terran player) : BigJ replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/2232I will like to 2nd GGzerG's post with my own game with him on ladder. Description : he looks at my base all game longggggggggg
You only have to watch this replay for about 3 seconds. BigJ literally looks directly at every single thing that Hit does through fog the entire game. Its not even worth analyzing its so blatnant.
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Thank you TL Antihack. Now many people will be aware of these obnoxious cheaters.
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Server: NA Your Name: CanucksJC Hacker Name: Imperfect.459
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I wouldn't normally do this if I didn't have concrete evidence or if the guy was trolling me at 4AM... but add Imperfect.459, look at his match history 3-4 weeks ago and tell me he isn't d/c hacking. I trust in TL's manpower GLHF.
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