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On June 03 2011 03:36 Ravencruiser wrote:
Just played this game.
Server:NA
Your Name:Bisu
Hacker Name:Quillo
Replay:http://drop.sc/11948/d
Description: PvP, Map is Shakuras Plateau. He sends a probe outside my natural behind the vision grass (lol what's it called) and proxies 2 gate. Probes goes in my main, zealots stream in, I leave the game. Pretty straightforward. Checked his match history, every PvP he plays is the same duration ~4 minutes for this guy, with him winning.
Should I report him? If so, how do I do so?
In my opinion, he is not hacking.
If he knows where you are why did he shift que both bases after he proxied to scout?
At no point in the game did he use any information other then what he knew - he proxied there because you had to be either the base above or below it.
It just seems like a protoss that is really good at proxy 2 gating for his league, seeing as his micro was pretty much perfect. (regarding his many wins in under 4 min)
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Posting this for a friend who doesn't have a TL account.
Server: EU
Your Name: Pazu
Hacker Name: FatCaT
Description: Guy doesn't scout at all on metalopolis. My friend goes for 3 rax all in and FatCaT throws down 3 spines. Pulls ALL drones to his natural right before the attack without seing anything.
This isn't an easy decision. He never scouts his opponents main but several times heads directly there; At 4 minutes he responds to the incoming all in still with no vision of what is coming; At 5 minutes it begins in earnest and the only completely conclusive moment comes around 5:05-5:15 when he pulls his queen, all his drones and lings to counter the all in.. slightly before it happens. Take note that he never scouted the all in coming, all he sees when he hits a xel naga tower is 2 marines. Hardly a reason to pull everything a minute later.
He never sees the all in but he responds. Thats the conclusive proof.
Addendum: Strangely enough later on when Pazu lifts off his buildings so he can berate FaTCaT longer for hacking.. FaTCaT actually sends his mutas to the wrong place. And he does a very good job sending a zergling to each base after the liftoff. Its like he wanted to make every effort to disguise his minimap meta-empirics but the only fact that matters is he scouted an all in without scouting it and reacted. That in my mind is conclusive that this matches legitimacy is in doubt.
However, I would recommend further review by a quorum.
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Server: SEA
Your Name: Khazad
Hacker Name: AweSomTerran
Description:
blatant maphacks, no scouting and looking at my base thru fog of war, blind counters my opener to
hopefully this works, got no idea what im doing xD
Ugh. This is just sad. Although I'd take obvious and soon to be banned over camera lock and sneaky stuff anyway.
FOW peeks- 6 minutes, 9 minutes, 12 minutes, 15 minutes.. I don't even need to write down the second he did it. Just watch it on x2 and save yourself 8 minutes.
(Can't believe he lost after watching everything you did.)
If confirmed won't this be the first SEA hacker on the database?
Server:EU
Your Name:Geiko
Hacker Name: forMASTER
Description:
-doesn't scout
-blind counters my tech
-doesn't look for proxy pylons EXCEPT the one place i put it
-Constantly looks through FOW at my base
How obvious can this get ...
The FOW peeks are extremely vagrant. You could cite at 7:45 how he blindly a moves lings into a proxy pylon or guesses correctly but really lets just make it easy. He stares at his opponents base (He never scouted it) at
- 5:45, 6:20, 7:10 and the proxy pylon at 7:15. You could catch this idiot on x8 speed.
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On June 03 2011 05:05 dae wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 03:36 Ravencruiser wrote:
Just played this game.
Server:NA
Your Name:Bisu
Hacker Name:Quillo
Replay:http://drop.sc/11948/d
Description: PvP, Map is Shakuras Plateau. He sends a probe outside my natural behind the vision grass (lol what's it called) and proxies 2 gate. Probes goes in my main, zealots stream in, I leave the game. Pretty straightforward. Checked his match history, every PvP he plays is the same duration ~4 minutes for this guy, with him winning.
Should I report him? If so, how do I do so? In my opinion, he is not hacking. If he knows where you are why did he shift que both bases after he proxied to scout? At no point in the game did he use any information other then what he knew - he proxied there because you had to be either the base above or below it. It just seems like a protoss that is really good at proxy 2 gating for his league, seeing as his micro was pretty much perfect. (regarding his many wins in under 4 min)
There is no conclusive proof in this replay. It can be argued as insane luck. If he's won every game just like that however (You should check the build orders of the matches he played) the context looks a lot more suspicious. Unfortunately unless you or someone who does have Quillos character code messages the people he faced and checks his build order on his after match screen. . . I think we have to wait on additional reports on this person to confirm it.
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What the fuck? I'm Choi, and no, I wasn't hacking. I decided to try a canon rush on a 4 player-map after a huge losing streak close-air position because I was pissed, and I get blamed for hacking? LOL. The way I scout is the way every competent cheeser fucking scouts; you don't let your fucking oppponent know you're coming if you're 100% devoted to a cheese that has no transition. I guess canon rushing on a 4 player map is considered cheating now, yay. If I map hacked, I wouldn't make it so fucking obvious and canon rush every protoss I see to waste $60. You guys seriously have no fucking common sense. Things like this make me wonder how joke of a thread this is. If hackers are not banned, they eventually will be, so honestly, what the fuck is the point of falsely accusing legitimate players? This is more of a come-here-if-you're-mad-you-got-fucking-owned-because-you're-shit-at-the-game-thread.
P.S. to my opponent, no, I was never 49-0 you fucking moron. You don't have to lie now, do you? Learn how to play the game instead of blaming your opponent, and maybe you'll get better.
User was warned for this post
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On June 03 2011 12:35 garywoot wrote:
What the fuck? I'm Choi, and no, I wasn't hacking. I decided to try a canon rush on a 4 player-map after a huge losing streak close-air position because I was pissed, and I get blamed for hacking? LOL. The way I scout is the way every competent cheeser fucking scouts; you don't let your fucking oppponent know you're coming if you're 100% devoted to a cheese that has no transition. I guess canon rushing on a 4 player map is considered cheating now, yay. If I map hacked, I wouldn't make it so fucking obvious and canon rush every protoss I see to waste $60. You guys seriously have no fucking common sense. Things like this make me wonder how joke of a thread this is. If hackers are not banned, they eventually will be, so honestly, what the fuck is the point of falsely accusing legitimate players? This is more of a come-here-if-you're-mad-you-got-fucking-owned-because-you're-shit-at-the-game-thread.
P.S. to my opponent, no, I was never 49-0 you fucking moron. You don't have to lie now, do you? Learn how to play the game instead of blaming your opponent, and maybe you'll get better.
Learn how to make a point without going ballistic. Also we had one other incident like this - over 5 people said he was a hack, he PM'd me, was 100% chill about it, and got him removed off the list...he didn't make it look like we just convicted him of murder.
Second of all - before you mention how much of a joke this thread is - I went back and looked, there's at least 4 people (not including my PMs) that agreed it was a hack. Does this mean that we are right? No. It certainly doesn't. Does it mean that the replay looks like it was hacked? It's likely.
The reason we thought it was suspicious was because you built a bunch of stuff before you even knew your opponent was there - couple that with some camera movements that people felt suspicious, plus moving your probe out of the way of his when it came out of his base made it look like you could see him via a map hack.
Chill out, I'll take you off the list.
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On June 03 2011 12:35 garywoot wrote:
What the fuck? I'm Choi, and no, I wasn't hacking. I decided to try a canon rush on a 4 player-map after a huge losing streak close-air position because I was pissed, and I get blamed for hacking? LOL. The way I scout is the way every competent cheeser fucking scouts; you don't let your fucking oppponent know you're coming if you're 100% devoted to a cheese that has no transition. I guess canon rushing on a 4 player map is considered cheating now, yay. If I map hacked, I wouldn't make it so fucking obvious and canon rush every protoss I see to waste $60. You guys seriously have no fucking common sense. Things like this make me wonder how joke of a thread this is. If hackers are not banned, they eventually will be, so honestly, what the fuck is the point of falsely accusing legitimate players? This is more of a come-here-if-you're-mad-you-got-fucking-owned-because-you're-shit-at-the-game-thread.
P.S. to my opponent, no, I was never 49-0 you fucking moron. You don't have to lie now, do you? Learn how to play the game instead of blaming your opponent, and maybe you'll get better.
You need to calm the fuck down bro.
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Is the atmosphere too charged now to ask for a profile link to make sure its actually you thats being referred to?
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On June 04 2011 05:58 -StrifeX- wrote:Server:NA Hackers name: sGmKana and zRoFanatic Hacks used: sGmKana http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=sGmKana = Maphack & Loss Bot zRoFanatic http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=zRoFanatic = Loss bot sGmKana was currently in sGm (my current team) until he admitted to using maphack on his account in ladder games and using a loss bot later on. I have Screen Shots of him admitting to the Maphacking on his account. Both players use Loss bots it's simple by simply looking at their match history...I'll upload their match history SS in a few minutes.
Lol you must be preety upset to go through all this trouble big boy. Its a pixelized portrait you swear it affects anything.
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T.T well considering they are people in the TL.net community also, or else it wouldn't matter. Maphack is biggest affect...but if im post im post what i know about anyone in tl.net community..zRoFanatic tried host a cash tournament, if someone willing to not agree to terms and agreement what makes you think they will pay for a tournament they host once it finishes?
as far as sGmKana yeah it's pretty dumb you join a team that against maphackers then you go and start maphacking and use loss bots on ladder under the teams tag. I think it would bother anyone in the team.
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Server:NA
Your Name: Spartacus
Hacker Name: Facedemarde
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=212739#/replay_overview
Description:
@ 12:15: If you watch the replay from his first person view, you can see that he actually his vision of my colossus on the high ground without a scan. At first i thought it was because he was very close to the edge, but even after my colossus backs away the tank still shoots it. He eventually scans, but he could still hit it before. This also happens again at 14:39.
Also more minor things:
In the beginning i send my probe to the corner of his base out of his vision, then i move it to another location that is still outside of his vision. He sends his marine to the exact new location of the probe.
Let me know what you guys think.
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On June 04 2011 10:04 spapa13 wrote:Server:NA Your Name: Spartacus Hacker Name: Facedemarde Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=212739#/replay_overviewDescription: @ 12:15: If you watch the replay from his first person view, you can see that he actually his vision of my colossus on the high ground without a scan. At first i thought it was because he was very close to the edge, but even after my colossus backs away the tank still shoots it. He eventually scans, but he could still hit it before. This also happens again at 14:39. Also more minor things: In the beginning i send my probe to the corner of his base out of his vision, then i move it to another location that is still outside of his vision. He sends his marine to the exact new location of the probe. Let me know what you guys think.
im pretty sure you can see colossi on the high ground from the low ground
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On June 04 2011 10:39 ONEeldthwe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2011 10:04 spapa13 wrote:Server:NA Your Name: Spartacus Hacker Name: Facedemarde Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=212739#/replay_overviewDescription: @ 12:15: If you watch the replay from his first person view, you can see that he actually his vision of my colossus on the high ground without a scan. At first i thought it was because he was very close to the edge, but even after my colossus backs away the tank still shoots it. He eventually scans, but he could still hit it before. This also happens again at 14:39. Also more minor things: In the beginning i send my probe to the corner of his base out of his vision, then i move it to another location that is still outside of his vision. He sends his marine to the exact new location of the probe. Let me know what you guys think. im pretty sure you can see colossi on the high ground from the low ground
Oh i didn't know that. Okay that makes alot more sense now
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On June 04 2011 06:13 KillaBeeSting wrote:Lol you must be preety upset to go through all this trouble big boy. Its a pixelized portrait you swear it affects anything.
Should PM a mod or i or Torenhire can do it for you.
Hackers in the TL community? Disgusting. .
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Server:NA
Your Name:Destructive
Hacker Name:BackDoorHero
Replay:http://replayfu.com/r/M6SmJs
Description: ZvZ, both players open hatch first, some ling action at start. I drop roach warren, like 2 seconds later he drops his roach warren. As soon as I start droning and getting ready to get to mid game, he does this kind of all-innish random timing. Oh, and hes hovering on my base/army the entire game.
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Server: NA
Your Name: Axel
Hacker Name: Roscoe
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/4449
Description:
Makes 3 gateways in my base without scouting first.
He's already a confirmed hacker so this can just be more evidence.
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On June 06 2011 14:02 PowerDes wrote:
Server:NA
Your Name:Destructive
Hacker Name:BackDoorHero
Replay:http://replayfu.com/r/M6SmJs
Description: ZvZ, both players open hatch first, some ling action at start. I drop roach warren, like 2 seconds later he drops his roach warren. As soon as I start droning and getting ready to get to mid game, he does this kind of all-innish random timing. Oh, and hes hovering on my base/army the entire game.
Fog of war peeks. End of story.
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if they maphack would their units all get high-ground vision?
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On June 06 2011 17:52 IzieBoy wrote:
if they maphack would their units all get high-ground vision?
No
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Server: NA
Hacker Name: RiceRiceRice.548 (His tl names: LicH. and potentially RiceRiceRice although not 100% confirmed)
Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=213623
Description: While this is more of an accusation further confirmed after I watched the game I just wanted to make sure this is added to assist further if anything else is found.
There are a lot of miniscule things done in this game that somebody not playing at a high level would miss.
Just a brief description of things I found odd:
2 marines to push to the same xelnaga tower (which is weirdly the only one occupied, to clear out probe)
No scouting effort whatsoever made the entire game.
2 Preemptive bunkers with no tech or powering behind it right as I am about to poke.
Seems to retake map control as soon as I am out of position
11:14 clicks and hovers over my army, panning his camera through fog to get a better view?
11:25 repositions a portion of his army right before his vision rage of my units, kind of lingers over them*
weirdly 'perfect' turret timing in regards to my shrine this game which was completely unorthodox
15:25 - this one is the kicker: prestims his units to intercept dts to 3rd before vision to save turret.**
There are many more little small things, mostly in regards to odd map control positioning (i.e. seeming like he would only want to take the map when I didn't have the xelnaga towers.)
Basically the culmination of all of the occurrences tipped it off to me. It's not unlikely to get lucky in game, but having the absolute perfect reactions multiple times with 0 scouting definitely raises an eyebrow.
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