TL Hacker Database, Season 2! - Page 10

1. dunno, i'm kinda random with watchtowers, usually i'll take them early game when i'm paying attention

2. you need 3 bunkers with that build before your ghosts pop - ive lost too many games to stalker runbys etc not to be protective with bunkers.

3. I have my dota tendencies and tend to just click on the map rather than minimap. Bad player habbit, but dunno, guess your army was where I hovered and clicked on the map.

4. I think I was waiting for cloak to finish on that, maybe it was the game before, I was pushing with ghosts, and didnt want to engage before that. Not sure if it was this game however

5. This was one of those "ohshit" he's not going any robo, has twilight, dt probably on the way moments. Also, I kinda play by the flow, sometimes I make my turrets at good times, sometimes I die straight up to invis stuff.

6. one dt poked its head into my nat / main, I assumed there would be more dts split up (at least thats what I like to do with them in team games when i play toss :p )




The big factor within this game however, if I remember correctly, was that I loaded up two dropships at the very end, only to have you attack me right as my drop ships were out. Doing that drop probably sealed my fate in this game - I probably could have held your attack if I had those units and the dropships to heal my doods in my base. If I did hack, I would not have executed that drop - I guessed that you wouldn't push me and got punished for my bad guess.

Anyway, i've played thousands of sc2 games, and the one thing that I've learned is that people's reactions in sc2 are fairly consistant. I try to use this principal in my games to get an economic advantage by taking risk with timings, scan use, etc - sometimes I brilliantly do this and beat a pro every once in a while as a result. However, more often than not, I get fucking raped by things like 3 gate robo, 3 gate vr, straight up dt rushes, baneling busts, colossi tech switches, etc the list goes on. I guess I play sc2 like I do chess - I should probably learn to play the real way, but I'm the opposite of a mechanical player: taking economic risks, trying to guess/predict the most possible outcome in the domain of known possibilities, and attempting to use intellect alone is how I enjoy playing

First of all, sending two marines is odd, indeed, but it can't prove anything in my opinion.
Strangely enough, you think 2 marines at a watchtower is odd but finding your proxy pylon directly is not (maybe this spot is common, I play on EU and usually I find proxy pylons close to the 3rd, but heh, it can't prove anything aswell).
The scouting he does at start is enough to know your position, so he can play extremely defensively and not die (terrans and their bunkers :p )... which is who I interpret the bunkers.
He may very well know timings and by teching ghost and expanded, he is vulnerable. Furthermore you could squeeze in units if you were really committed to this attack only so extra safety seems totally reasonable (or else he would just lose horribly)

"Seems to retake map control as soon as I am out of position" : well this does not mean much, he deflected your assault, therefore you have to send back your army home... I don't get it.

"11:14 clicks and hovers over my army, panning his camera through fog to get a better view?"
I fail to see how he "hovers" over your army, considering between 11:11 and 11:14, he just clicked like a maniac on his way and that at 11:14, when you switch to everyone's view, your army is in the corner of the screen. Unless I'm mistaken, "hovering over" for me implies that your army was approximately in the middle of HIS screen, which is never was.

11:25 repositions a portion of his army right before his vision rage of my units, kind of lingers over them*
I didn't even react to this at first while watching from his point of view. He regroups his army with the core unit : the ghost. Why would he push with 2 ghosts on their way but not in the battlefield yet ?
The fact that you are very close is purely coincidental to me, maybe it struck him that you could be seeing him (and if he's very good, he saw at 11:26 the xel'naga tower occupied or just assume he could be seen so decided to regroup where he regrouped)

weirdly 'perfect' turret timing in regards to my shrine this game which was completely unorthodox

I just put that on the account of safety. I randomly throw down spore and spinecrawler in my games too after some time against protoss. Sometimes the DTs come before and I rage, sometimes I catch them. I know DTs can really throw me off so I assume someone who played a lot does not want to get caught off guard like a newb

15:25 - this one is the kicker: prestims his units to intercept dts to 3rd before vision to save turret.**
Well he just killed a DT at your nat, he is expecting DTs at the third (splitting up DTs is known to be the best way to use them no ?). Since it's not a planetary, he knows he can lose very very quickly any turrets and be in trouble. The only thing he loses if the stim was not necessary is medivac energy, he stims because he needs it. It looks like he has a lot a ladder experience and I'm guessing he already lost because he did not stim to save his 3rd which was an orbital in another game :p
It's a gamble and he knows the risk of putting down an orbital there :p

The fact he loads 2 medivac juste before your final attack is quite striking as well, if he really had any maphack, he wouldn't do that :p

I'd say he just has some good game sense and plays quite safely.

Edit : Damn LicH posted his impressions just before, sorry if I offended you :p