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On April 17 2011 07:47 Saragas wrote: lol its actually more frustrating to watch than to play. poor morrow.
I agree. So often watching zvp I just want to punch someone. Unless it's spanishiwa playing
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Games being recommended because MorroW actually doing something hard (breaking 2-3 basing toss)
Games not recommended when hasuobs just sits in base and wins
no balance whine but that's actually how the games were haha
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On April 17 2011 07:46 littlejunior wrote:Only one zerg remain in TSL. It broke our zerg hearts . . . Dude... Forget zerg... Fucking Boxer IS BACK!!!
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On April 17 2011 07:48 phrenzy wrote: Morrow is a macro player in my eyes, i dont see a lot of strategy in his play which is fine (maybe apart from baneling bust), his macro seems pretty solid. But things like drops seem to be something he might be uncomfortable with or hasnt experimented enough with. He knew it would be the perfect thing to do but i think if he stuck to his normal style he woulda have had a better chance.
The terminus game seemed super lucky.
Im sure he is kicking himself after that. Actually i was impressed at how many stuff he showed in those matches. I expected him to get rolled 3:0 in macro games, but he at least was trying something to avoid getting deathballed. So i guess he prepared well.
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On April 17 2011 07:49 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 07:46 DiaBoLuS wrote:On April 17 2011 07:44 KiNGxXx wrote:Poll: Recommend HasuObs vs MorroW (Game 5)?No (69) 52% Yes (56) 42% If you have time (8) 6% 133 total votes Your vote: Recommend HasuObs vs MorroW (Game 5)? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
whoever says no doesnt respect hasuobs defense :/ Hasu didnt win, morrow lost, every unit was doing its own thing. small group attacking pylon, small group trying to kill a col, small group standing around. i dont understand what you think was so impressive with his defense. still games are recomended when zergs do some shitty wins by beneling busts by when protoss defends all in like a hero thousands idralings vote NO .... sad
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On April 17 2011 07:49 ihavetofartosis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 07:48 Asvhald wrote: Zerg loses - Game not recommended Zerg wins - Game is recommended
Why? The games that Morrow won in this series were a lot more exciting as a spectator. Simple as that. Tbh that might be because morrow didn't allow 2/3 of hasuobs wins to be fun. I mean its hard to find a game fun when one player just gives up, even if he is behind/going to loose.
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On April 17 2011 07:47 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 07:46 DiaBoLuS wrote:On April 17 2011 07:44 KiNGxXx wrote:Poll: Recommend HasuObs vs MorroW (Game 5)?No (69) 52% Yes (56) 42% If you have time (8) 6% 133 total votes Your vote: Recommend HasuObs vs MorroW (Game 5)? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
whoever says no doesnt respect hasuobs defense :/ Hum... Haus scouted the drops with his pheonix, then morrow did some poor army management in Hasu's base... and that's it. What do you want us to be impress ? lol, I'm highly doubt you can defend like Hasu in all 5 games. Just play protoss doood.
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Was Forge first the reason why Morrow didn't do a no gas FE? I wonder if it was a reaction or if he just planned not to go with a build he doesn't master perfectly.
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Awesome matches today...couldn't of asked for more
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On April 17 2011 07:50 Beef Noodles wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 07:48 Asvhald wrote: Zerg loses - Game not recommended Zerg wins - Game is recommended
Why? Cause it took something creative, crazy, or awesome for Morrow to win. Watch the games yourself. Zerg won = cool game. Toss won = kinda boring/anticlimatic
well hasuobs defense was great , you have to admit
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On April 17 2011 07:49 Pyo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 07:47 Saragas wrote: lol its actually more frustrating to watch than to play. poor morrow.
from idras twitter, hahaha pfft after throwing away game 2 vs MC at DH by 6-pooling, I have no respect for him or anything he does.
Boxer threw away his GSL series in season 1. He said he couldn't win vs zerg, so in his quarterfinal (or semi, i forget) series he did 3 completely retarded cheeses that were doomed from the start...and he lost 3-0. Do you also have no respect for him? Progamers are still human and emotions play a big part of it. Idra's loss was demoralizing, he definitely didn't have the right mindset to have a chance in a real game at that moment
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On April 17 2011 07:49 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 07:46 DiaBoLuS wrote:On April 17 2011 07:44 KiNGxXx wrote:Poll: Recommend HasuObs vs MorroW (Game 5)?No (69) 52% Yes (56) 42% If you have time (8) 6% 133 total votes Your vote: Recommend HasuObs vs MorroW (Game 5)? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
whoever says no doesnt respect hasuobs defense :/ Hasu didnt win, morrow lost, every unit was doing its own thing. small group attacking pylon, small group trying to kill a col, small group standing around. i dont understand what you think was so impressive with his defense.
ehm... he anticipated the drop perfectly, put cannons in his main before the drop happens, scouts for it permenently and puts all units on the edge where do drpo happens / puts forcefields on drop-positions to delay the drop...
this is so smart, you do not even recognize how morrow lost half of his units before this "army split" that didnt changed anything, since it was over before.
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On April 17 2011 07:48 Asvhald wrote: Zerg loses - Game not recommended Zerg wins - Game is recommended
Why?
Because zerg wins against protoss have historically involved some sort of ambitious, ballsy, oddball early aggression/drop play -- Idra vs. Cruncher game 2, some of the Idra vs. HuK games, and Morrow's first win in this series. These things are exciting to watch.
Zerg losses against protoss, in contrast, involve a-moved deathballs, 4gate, or 6gate. These things are typically not exciting.
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I don't think anyone should be accusing marrow of cheese? He had great saturation on at least 2 base during all of his attacks.... plenty plenty of drones to support what he was doing and take a third when he felt comfortable doing, which in all games I think was before the 10minute mark, except maybe the crossfire game; which in and of itself was a brilliant stragety that got thwarted by a single forcefield.
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mc vs naniwa finals, calling it right now
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On April 17 2011 07:51 loveeholicce wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 07:49 Pyo wrote:On April 17 2011 07:47 Saragas wrote: lol its actually more frustrating to watch than to play. poor morrow.
from idras twitter, hahaha pfft after throwing away game 2 vs MC at DH by 6-pooling, I have no respect for him or anything he does. Boxer threw away his GSL series in season 1. He said he couldn't win vs zerg, so in his quarterfinal (or semi, i forget) series he did 3 completely retarded cheeses that were doomed from the start...and he lost 3-0. Do you also have no respect for him? Progamers are still human and emotions play a big part of it. Idra's loss was demoralizing, he definitely didn't have the right mindset to have a chance in a real game at that moment People have selective memories, let them hate blindly.
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One of the reasons for all the whining is the huge underestimation of HasuObs.
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I'm so happy Hasu managed to win. He didn't play his best today but in the last game his scouting was perfect and he deserves the win! And now he will destroy BoxeR! :D Hasuuuuuuuuu! <3
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On April 17 2011 07:51 LastMan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 07:49 zeru wrote:On April 17 2011 07:46 DiaBoLuS wrote:On April 17 2011 07:44 KiNGxXx wrote:Poll: Recommend HasuObs vs MorroW (Game 5)?No (69) 52% Yes (56) 42% If you have time (8) 6% 133 total votes Your vote: Recommend HasuObs vs MorroW (Game 5)? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
whoever says no doesnt respect hasuobs defense :/ Hasu didnt win, morrow lost, every unit was doing its own thing. small group attacking pylon, small group trying to kill a col, small group standing around. i dont understand what you think was so impressive with his defense. still games are recomended when zergs do some shitty wins by beneling busts by when protoss defends all in like a hero thousands idralings vote NO .... sad Somehow I feel this is almost banworthy under the no balance whine clause. Stop trolling.
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