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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:49 hugman wrote: Funny + Show Spoiler + not. Everyone says "don't let Protoss play a macro game", which is fair, so lets try early aggression. Well, as it turns out you more or less need to all-in if you want to be aggressive early on as Zerg, it depends a bit on the map. It's not cheese, don't blame him for trying and no, this is not balance whine. There's a BIG difference between all-ining and being aggressive. | ||
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Asvhald
Spain199 Posts
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:50 WhiteraCares wrote: Sloppy drop play from morrow in the final game, he could have won it, had he microed better. Grats Hasu, been rooting for him since the infamous beta game between him and TLO  Nah, once it's scouted it's pretty much over. He can't drop effectively, and if he doesn't then he's way too far behind. Overlord speed + drop + hydras + grooved spines off of 2-base is all-in. It worked the first time because hasu opened Stargate. | ||
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Beef Noodles
United States937 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:51 ZeraToss wrote: well hasuobs defense was great , you have to admit Yeah, I'm not taking away from hasuobs. Its just the way it panned out today. Also, Morrow's GG's were all warranted, but also before the final climax, so kind of a bummer. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:50 Huragius wrote: Yeah, whole sc2 community is fucked up :D You will never see a RR in gosugamer if there is a zerg who loses, and almost all games on TL.net where zerg loses is not recommended Well, I don't really care, because I never watch replays based on poll's votes.how is it fucked up? games with zergs winning usually are way more epic and longer. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:51 DiaBoLuS wrote: ehm... he anticipated the drop perfectly, put cannons in his main before the drop happens, scouts for it permenently and puts all units on the edge where do drpo happens / puts forcefields on drop-positions to delay the drop... this is so smart, you do not even recognize how morrow lost half of his units before this "army split" that didnt changed anything, since it was over before. You and everyone else needs to recognize that a scouted drop is bound to fail in almost every situation.. | ||
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entropius
United States1046 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:51 LastMan wrote: still games are recomended when zergs do some shitty wins by beneling busts by when protoss defends all in like a hero thousands idralings vote NO .... sad [citation needed] What heroic protoss defenses against all-ins are you referring to that everyone is dissing? How were Morrow's wins against Jinro "shitty"? Yes, he went all in -- *everyone* goes all in at some point, and Morrow saw an opportunity and seized it. This wasn't shitty, it was great fun to watch. | ||
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ZeraToss
Germany1094 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:51 DiaBoLuS wrote: ehm... he anticipated the drop perfectly, put cannons in his main before the drop happens, scouts for it permenently and puts all units on the edge where do drpo happens / puts forcefields on drop-positions to delay the drop... this is so smart, you do not even recognize how morrow lost half of his units before this "army split" that didnt changed anything, since it was over before. qft diabolus, i think just a few saw those ffs preventing morrow to drop on the edge, and of course the cannons which saved him the day | ||
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:47 Lolsss wrote: I have no idea how he knows. But the games are not casted live so he could have found out as hes fairly high up. All im saying is that he spoils the results of that series so just dont watch that particular match. just throwing out the warning cuz it annoyed me EDIT: my bad it was infact the cruncher series he spoils it in. just remembered Was posted before, TSL admin said game was even played out until then. Far more likely that that commentator just got his facts wrong. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:51 DiaBoLuS wrote: ehm... he anticipated the drop perfectly, put cannons in his main before the drop happens, scouts for it permenently and puts all units on the edge where do drpo happens / puts forcefields on drop-positions to delay the drop... this is so smart, you do not even recognize how morrow lost half of his units before this "army split" that didnt changed anything, since it was over before. Much truth in this. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:53 Pyo wrote: There's a BIG difference between all-ining and being aggressive. Yeah Morrow's control on that drop was pretty bad | ||
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disco
Netherlands1667 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:51 Zarahtra wrote: Tbh that might be because morrow didn't allow 2/3 of hasuobs wins to be fun. I mean its hard to find a game fun when one player just gives up, even if he is behind/going to loose. Zerg just isn't a comeback race. You might as well save yourself a lot of frustration. In my opinion though, when it's the deciding match of a series in the best tournament evah, I wouldve played it out just hoping I'd get lucky. | ||
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Nik0
Uruguay460 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:49 Pyo wrote: pfft after throwing away game 2 vs MC at DH by 6-pooling, I have no respect for him or anything he does. i'm pretty sure that you having no respect for him keeps him up at night | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:51 entropius wrote: Because zerg wins against protoss have historically involved some sort of ambitious, ballsy, oddball early aggression/drop play -- Idra vs. Cruncher game 2, some of the Idra vs. HuK games, and Morrow's first win in this series. These things are exciting to watch. Zerg losses against protoss, in contrast, involve a-moved deathballs, 4gate, or 6gate. These things are typically not exciting. Then why was game 5 not recommended? Actually are these polls even going into the OP? | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:52 Redox wrote: One of the reasons for all the whining is the huge underestimation of HasuObs. They will change their mind when Hasu defeats Boxer! | ||
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zeru
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imPERSONater
United States1324 Posts
On April 17 2011 07:51 HolydaKing wrote: Actually i was impressed at how many stuff he showed in those matches. I expected him to get rolled 3:0 in macro games, but he at least was trying something to avoid getting deathballed. So i guess he prepared well. Agreed. Another thing to consider is he was playing a teammate. I bet he knew Hasu had his style down pat so he might have been outside his comfort zone to throw him off. Some times it worked, other times it didn't. It certainly wasn't masterful execution, but he really put out an effort to be different and surprising after getting rolled in game 1 with his "traditional" style. | ||
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namedplayer
844 Posts
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
protoss is bound to play defensive unless they allin, timingpush or do airharassment - there is simply no window to create "wow what impressive play" moments. thats why it looks so easy to play protoss, but it defenetly is not... morrow wouldve crushed most Ps out there with the games he showed us today. | ||
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