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On April 12 2011 10:43 Brethern wrote: I considered trying vegetarian, but my blood type requires me to eat red meat in order to be healthy.
That also leads me into the question. If you found out that you needed red meat in order to be healthy would you switch to being an omnivore?
Yes, if it was the only option. But for the majority of people - the only vitamin you need that you can't get from a purely vegan diet is b12, which can be fortified in soy milk or vegemite, if you don't take supplements for example.
What's the basis for you requiring red meat? Is this a medical opinion as the only option?
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I empathize with the vegans of this thread... Some of these posts are the dumbest things I've seen on all of Team Liquid (Thank God that mods are on it...).
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On April 12 2011 10:48 TALegion wrote: I empathize with the vegans of this thread... And I don't.
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On April 12 2011 10:56 shwaffles wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 10:48 TALegion wrote: I empathize with the vegans of this thread... And I don't. And you're here because...?
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On April 12 2011 10:45 night terrors wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 10:41 Ambulation wrote:On April 12 2011 10:35 Ropid wrote:On April 12 2011 10:25 shwaffles wrote:Phototropian>>>Vegetarian + Show Spoiler + There are actually fellows that only eat fruits and mushrooms and nothing that involves an organism dieing (I forgot what the name for that is, and I do not know if it is actually possible to get your proteins living like that). Fruitarians. I have a couple of friends who live on this diet and they are healthy (as far as I'm aware). Along the lines of this the cooks of the vegan restaurant i usually go to near uni are on a raw food diet (mostly, it seems) and the problem i see in this is that some health issues are not likely to be seen just now, but a few years down the line.
From what I read and heard on the radio in interviews and stuff, some nutritionists seem to believe that your body naturally learns what is in your food. You will get notified through cravings for something, if you are missing anything needed. So I suppose it could very well be that nothing bad will ever happen to those cooks, if they actually like their diet and are not forcing themselves.
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On April 12 2011 11:03 Ropid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 10:45 night terrors wrote:On April 12 2011 10:41 Ambulation wrote:On April 12 2011 10:35 Ropid wrote:On April 12 2011 10:25 shwaffles wrote:Phototropian>>>Vegetarian + Show Spoiler + There are actually fellows that only eat fruits and mushrooms and nothing that involves an organism dieing (I forgot what the name for that is, and I do not know if it is actually possible to get your proteins living like that). Fruitarians. I have a couple of friends who live on this diet and they are healthy (as far as I'm aware). Along the lines of this the cooks of the vegan restaurant i usually go to near uni are on a raw food diet (mostly, it seems) and the problem i see in this is that some health issues are not likely to be seen just now, but a few years down the line. From what I read and heard on the radio in interviews and stuff, some nutritionists seem to believe that your body naturally learns what is in your food. You will get notified through cravings for something, if you are missing anything needed. So I suppose it could very well be that nothing bad will ever happen to those cooks, if they do not force themselves on their weird diet, but actually like it.
Yeah, Ive felt that the body has a very peculiar of regulating its needs, the thing is that it may happen that some diets simply arent for the human body, not saying that raw-food diets or fruit-based diets are not for the human body, and when people suscribe to these diets in order to fortify their individuality they sacrifice that knowledge the body has to let you know what its missing.
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On April 12 2011 11:02 x-Catalyst wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 10:56 shwaffles wrote:On April 12 2011 10:48 TALegion wrote: I empathize with the vegans of this thread... And I don't. And you're here because...? + Show Spoiler +
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On April 12 2011 10:47 Ambulation wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 10:43 Brethern wrote: I considered trying vegetarian, but my blood type requires me to eat red meat in order to be healthy.
That also leads me into the question. If you found out that you needed red meat in order to be healthy would you switch to being an omnivore? Yes, if it was the only option. But for the majority of people - the only vitamin you need that you can't get from a purely vegan diet is b12, which can be fortified in soy milk or vegemite, if you don't take supplements for example. What's the basis for you requiring red meat? Is this a medical opinion as the only option? It basically the dietary requirements of the blood type. I wouldn't die from lack of meat but I would not be healthy either.
http://www.drlam.com/blood_type_diet/blood_o_chart.asp
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My blood type is also O. Eat nuts. Go to www.vegan.org.nz for all your nutritional information.
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That blood type stuff sounds like that Japanese superstition that your personality is linked to your blood type (same level as astrology).
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On April 12 2011 11:16 shwaffles wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 11:02 x-Catalyst wrote:On April 12 2011 10:56 shwaffles wrote:On April 12 2011 10:48 TALegion wrote: I empathize with the vegans of this thread... And I don't. And you're here because...? + Show Spoiler + Oh, I see now.
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My fiance and I once bought a car magnet that said "I <3 Barnyard Animals" on it because we thought it would be funny to publicly declare our love of having sex with animals . Upon exiting the store, we realized it was vegan propaganda, and promptly threw it in the trash.
True story.
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I was a Vegetarian for a year and a half!! Then I stopped.
T.T
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On April 12 2011 11:30 SonicTitan wrote: My fiance and I once bought a car magnet that said "I <3 Barnyard Animals" on it because we thought it would be funny to publicly declare our love of having sex with animals . Upon exiting the store, we realized it was vegan propaganda, and promptly threw it in the trash.
True story.
That gotta hurt, hope you didn't take it too hard.
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On April 12 2011 11:27 x-Catalyst wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 11:16 shwaffles wrote:On April 12 2011 11:02 x-Catalyst wrote:On April 12 2011 10:56 shwaffles wrote:On April 12 2011 10:48 TALegion wrote: I empathize with the vegans of this thread... And I don't. And you're here because...? + Show Spoiler + Oh, I see now. Me too.
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Vegan for years here Ever since I was a little kid (9 I think) and I really thought about where animals came from I never ate another one. I really believe that the number of vegans and vegan friendly places are increasing and that years from now the world will be very animal friendly
Keep on going guys!
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On April 12 2011 11:30 SonicTitan wrote: My fiance and I once bought a car magnet that said "I <3 Barnyard Animals" on it because we thought it would be funny to publicly declare our love of having sex with animals . Upon exiting the store, we realized it was vegan propaganda, and promptly threw it in the trash.
True story. I wish there was a "+1" feature on this website.
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I'd like to ask the thread starter or the mods to compile the links on the first post. I think its really important to have resources on diet, health, precautions, resources, recipes, etc.
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I've been vegan for a couple years now. I love it, and it's much, much easier to do than you'd think. Well, if you know how to cook. I don't tell people about my dietary practices though, since the last thing I need is to be argued with / preached at / condescended to / get similarly pigeonholed as something I'm not. I'm vegan because of the environmental impact of factory farming, and it's much easier to just cut out animal products altogether than keep meticulous tabs on where this and that ingredient of this and that dish came from. Oh, and it forced me to actually think about what I'm eating, and become much healthier as a result. I have zero problem with (responsibly) hunted meat, or actually sustainable agriculture.
The stigma that vegetarians/vegans have is very similar to the sort of stigma that atheists have, in my opinion. Very undeserved, frustrating, and a veritable hostility factory.
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Two questions for me.
If you've felt better with your health since being vegan/vegetarian/pescetarian (sp?), how long did it take for that to happen?
Also, do any of you vegetarians drink protein shakes?
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