On April 12 2011 11:31 kellymilkies wrote: I was a Vegetarian for a year and a half!! Then I stopped.
T.T
Kelly nooo! Come back to us! :p
On April 12 2011 12:26 Dalguno wrote: Two questions for me.
If you've felt better with your health since being vegan/vegetarian/pescetarian (sp?), how long did it take for that to happen?
Also, do any of you vegetarians drink protein shakes?
For me, I don't necessarily feel "better," or if I do it would be hard to quantify because I haven't had meat in so long.. But if I eat crappy (too much pizza, junk etc.) I find myself craving fresh vegetables and I feel a lot better after a good meal :p
I don't touch protein shakes, I know I get enough. All you need in a day is 1g protein/kg body mass, which is not a whole lot really, not compared to the average north american diet anyways.
On April 12 2011 12:26 Dalguno wrote: Two questions for me.
If you've felt better with your health since being vegan/vegetarian/pescetarian (sp?), how long did it take for that to happen?
Also, do any of you vegetarians drink protein shakes?
I guess it really depends. After I turned vegan, I want to say I felt different almost immediately after. I don't know how to explain how I felt, but it was a good feeling. I didn't feel as sluggish as I did before. That could also be because instead of just cutting out meat/dairy/etc. I also cut out a lot of junk food too.
And as for protein shakes, nah. I eat a lot of seeds/nuts, beans/legumes, tofu, brown rice, vegetables that have protein, and other things like whole wheat bread and many others. But sometimes if I feel as if I might be low, or just feel like a little more, I like to make fruit smoothies with a little soy protein powder in it. It has sort of a walnutty flavor
On April 12 2011 12:26 Dalguno wrote: Two questions for me.
If you've felt better with your health since being vegan/vegetarian/pescetarian (sp?), how long did it take for that to happen?
Also, do any of you vegetarians drink protein shakes?
I guess it really depends. After I turned vegan, I want to say I felt different almost immediately after. I don't know how to explain how I felt, but it was a good feeling. I didn't feel as sluggish as I did before. That could also be because instead of just cutting out meat/dairy/etc. I also cut out a lot of junk food too.
And as for protein shakes, nah. I eat a lot of seeds/nuts, beans/legumes, tofu, brown rice, vegetables that have protein, and other things like whole wheat bread and many others. But sometimes if I feel as if I might be low, or just feel like a little more, I like to make fruit smoothies with a little soy protein powder in it. It has sort of a walnutty flavor
I remember when first adopting the vegetarian diet I felt hungry more often. That hasn't been an issue in many years though as I got used to the changes, and ate healthier all around too.
I have protein shakes sometimes. I also once or twice a week take a multi-vitamin as a supplement. I haven't been paying as much attention to my nutrition lately since I've been really busy, so I take them "just in case".
I'm what pretentious people like to call a "conscientious omnivore." I believe in eating meat, but I don't believe in eating meat indiscriminately. I believe that human beings have a relationship with animals that isn't the same as our relationship with other human beings, but still requires a certain (fairly high) amount of care and respect. Consequently, because of how things in the world currently are, I'm a practical vegetarian, and have been for almost two years now (although I've eaten my share of authentic farm-raised meat products when I've been able to).
My point is, though, that I absolutely support vegetarians of all kinds. While I disagree philosophically with certain kinds of vegetarianism and veganism (and I've studied it extensively- "Philosophy of Food" ftw!), it isn't grounds for confrontation, but respect and tolerance.
I do have one issue, though... as someone who cares deeply about the meaning of foods, I am greatly disturbed by any kind of highly processed industrial food (although it is unavoidable in our culture; eventually I will be able to separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak). I get really uncomfortable with how excited many people get over vegan protein substitutes and the like simply because they are often produced in the same way and packed with the same nasty things as, say, a McDonalds hamburger. Just a though, vegetarian friends.
The butter could be easily substituted with olive oil, and the chicken stock substituted with vegetable stock, but I don't know a good vegan substitute for the bechamel used to bind the stuffing for the mushrooms. Scratch that, it seems that you can use any non-dairy milk to substitute for the liquid dairy in the bechamel.
Me: I'm on something called "the warrior diet". I eat 500g of meat or fish each day. Why? Because I want my 2g of protein per kg. I plan on being a vegetarian around my 40s as it won't be necessary for my body anymore to perform sports-wise. I will stay away from veganism, as the mortality rate is above those of meat eaters, vegetarianism having the lowest. My eating habits have been challenged on animal cruelty, but after reading Peter Singer and doing some research the conclusion is, that the only reason why meat eating is bad in a moral sense is the environment. Having said that, I would be the first to buy petri-dish meat or protein rich algae food. Sadly, those are still a little ways off into the future.
Questions: During research for my dietary choices I came across the observation, that vegetarians adhere to the classic food pyramid which overemphasizes carbohydrates in a major way. Due to this, there are health concerns connected to vegetarianism which are unnecessary. So question is, what is ya'll weight/height and how did it change once you became a vegetarian? What is your caloric intake per day? Do you use any supplements? Did your doctor make any comments on your health related to your diet?
My wife is a vegetarian and I am a supporter, basically I eat meat once or twice a week in the form of a hamburger or what not.
I feel weak. I don't support eating meat of animals, the only reason I do so is because it is tasty and easy, being vegetarian it can be quite difficult to eat fastfoods etc. downtown.
I do not respect vegetarians that are vocal about being about destroying life by eating meat, but I despise the people who criticize vegetarians as a whole even more.
Though I am not a vegetarian, I rarely eat meat mainly because I simply do not find it to be that tasty when eaten often. I do not my best to avoid meat because the only three types of meat I have available to me are pig, chicken, and cattle (for a low price) whereas veggies and gains are so much cheaper and you can create so much more with it. But on the other hand, I spent much more time looking at vegetarian recipes rather than meat recipes.
On April 12 2011 19:33 frontliner2 wrote: being vegetarian it can be quite difficult to eat fastfoods etc. downtown.
lol thats like the lamest excuse i've ever heard. dont get me wrong, I could never imagine being a vegetarian myself. but if you have an ethical problem with the food industry, then "its hard to eat fast food" should never be the reason why you dont do it...
On April 12 2011 20:05 Zafrumi wrote: yeah, but fast food? come on... you give up on a moral principal of yours to eat a goddamn mcdonalds hamburger? thats just...
Yeah, I really have to agree with this. If you're bending the rules of your own principles, it had better be something really, really worth it (i.e., this burger had better be made from the best USDA Prime Kobe/Wagyu beef with truffles and gold leaf somehow incorporated into it (okay, I'm exaggerating, but you get my point)).
Not vegan/vegetarian myself, but I hardly ever go to McDonalds, though it helps that I live in a big city where there are almost too many better options to count.
I'm one of those who keep trying to become vegetarian but fails. Nothing to do with the taste, vegetarian food is awesome. The big problem is that it's hard as hell to make/buy good vegetarian food compared to unhealthy stuff.
It's 10x easier to just throw a beef in the pan with olive oil and some simple spices than it is to try to cook one of those awesome indian curry filled vegetables that I don't even know the name of.
I've been cooking for over an year, and found it's a general rule that making unhealthy food is just easy. Cooking stuff that tastes awesome but is unhealth is ridiculously easy, anyone can do it. Cooking stuff that is just healthy, but doesn't taste great, that is easy too. The problem is trying to cook stuff that is both healthy and taste good. It's too hard and time consuming. The real good vegetarian meals have like 10 or 15 spices to it. It's hard to get it right.
I do avoid meat as much as I can. But I with sometimes I wish didn't get lazy and just fry a steak because it's easier. Just like the one I just made yesterday for today's lunch
Any tips for people trying to cook simple vegetarian dishes that both taste great and are just as easy to make as frying a steak? ^^
On April 12 2011 19:33 frontliner2 wrote: My wife is a vegetarian and I am a supporter, basically I eat meat once or twice a week in the form of a hamburger or what not.
I feel weak. I don't support eating meat of animals, the only reason I do so is because it is tasty and easy, being vegetarian it can be quite difficult to eat fastfoods etc. downtown.
If you only eat beef once a week then 1 cow should be enough to maintain your diet for years. That's not too much of a burden. You kill far more animals just by accident.
On April 12 2011 20:13 VIB wrote: I'm one of those who keep trying to become vegetarian but fails. Nothing to do with the taste, vegetarian food is awesome. The big problem is that it's hard as hell to make/buy good vegetarian food compared to unhealthy stuff.
It's 10x easier to just throw a beef in the pan with olive oil and some simple spices than it is to try to cook one of those awesome indian curry filled vegetables that I don't even know the name of.
I've been cooking for over an year, and found it's a general rule that making unhealthy food is just easy. Cooking stuff that tastes awesome but is unhealth is ridiculously easy, anyone can do it. Cooking stuff that is just healthy, but doesn't taste great, that is easy too. The problem is trying to cook stuff that is both healthy and taste good. It's too hard and time consuming. The real good vegetarian meals have like 10 or 15 spices to it. It's hard to get it right.
I do avoid meat as much as I can. But I with sometimes I wish didn't get lazy and just fry a steak because it's easier. Just like the one I just made yesterday for today's lunch
Any tips for people trying to cook simple vegetarian dishes that both taste great and are just as easy to make as frying a steak? ^^
Vego Snacks: -Wrap broccoli up in a foil package with olive oil, salt, pepper and garlic (if you want) and chuck it in the oven. (any baked veggie are easy, not extremely quick though) -2 minute noodles (mi goreng is vegan) -Grilled cheese sandwiches
Once a week i search the internet for new stuff to eat, so once you get a sort of repertoire of quick easy foods you can whip them up in an instant.
EPT
