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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 04 2011 11:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Night actions... Gtfo. Mod kill the bastards. Town wins. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
=D! | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On March 04 2011 11:11 LSB wrote: Qatol specifically told me if the Mafia doesn't send in night actions before the dealines, they don't get any. =D! Well that's just what I would do. It's totally a mod discretion thing. | ||
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Ser Aspi
France84 Posts
Don't worry about people who have more complex cases like cubedin. Kill these two first. Seraph Kevconsim Lastargument ![[image loading]](http://hubba-u.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/professor_badass.jpg) | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Because this guy is mafia. First take a look at his voting; starting with day 1 he has voted for ICanFlyLow, LSB, JBright. While certainly not conclusive, he has failed to vote for both mafia this game (and possibly he hasn't voted for ANY mafia this game if LSB and JBright are town). This doesn't say much in itself because other members of the town have the same thing going for them (hi chaoser!). Let's look at his posts this game; so far he has made a total of 13. That's so few I could post them all in here and my post still won't be ridiculously long. 7 of those posts are one liners or a restatement of what he posted earlier, so in reality there's only 6 posts he can take credit for. Of these 6 posts, take a look at the first one he made that was more than 2 sentences: On February 23 2011 15:46 LastArgument wrote: As you asked what I found troublesome about this post. as per the town guide found http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188179 You did what would be as general talking. Rather than being specific with the use of the roles you mention you instead mention generalities. It also a post that lacks emphasis on the fundamental skill in which it has been suggested towns need to play by which is behavioural analysis. This and factoring in your earlier claim makes it seem fairly odd no? Obviously he was trying to analyze one of gryffindor's posts. This guy knows something about mafia as he has read the town guide, and is able to make an objective analysis on something gryffindor wrote. His next post follows up after gryffindor responds: On February 23 2011 15:57 LastArgument wrote: In your following posts after the one I quoted you only center on GM for a possible red, who is following suggestions found in the link I provided. I also glanced through your posts and you so far have only insinuated that GM as well as mrwiggles. Your list of "reads" is responding to foolishness, but is also a summary of information found in multiple spots within the mafia forum. Most of it is all spoken generalities, rather than specifics. I know I am not very experienced and running purely on what I have read from threads here but based on that it all seems off. Deep reading between the lines shows a mafia player in disguise. He has emphasized his noobiness, "I am not very experienced", and has cast doubt upon gryffindor without taking a firm stance. When I read this post and the one above it, it seems like LastArgument has stumbled across something suspicious that gryffindor did, yet he fails to push it in the thread and just brush it off. You would have to try pretty hard to convince me this guy is a bored townie. He clearly cares about the game and is trying, but so far hasn't cnotributed to the town in any way. On February 25 2011 04:59 LastArgument wrote: I will be voting Icanflylow until a more suitable target can be brought up. As of now there is too much on either side of the fence to lynch one of gm/annul/chaoser/ice whereas icanflylow has posted once in the thread jumping on a bandwagon and not providing real input into the game. This vote may change depending on arguments brought forward, however 1 post to poorly justify ones vote on a bandwagon seems far to scum like to ignore at this moment. If he has been active in pm's someone let me know so that my view of him may be changed, but as of right now he seems the least contributing member of the game. ##vote icanflylow Cool, he casts doubt upon gryffindor and votes for some random inactive. Yes it's not conclusive but interesting. It's also a little hilarious because he votes on the basis that ICanFlyLow is the least contributing member when he himself is has not contributed anything except "Hey gryffindor this thing you did here might be suspicious according to the guide but I'm inexperienced so who knows, please don't notice me" 0 posts in the next 3 days for him (real time days, as in 72 hours). Then he comes out with a whopper! On February 28 2011 04:42 LastArgument wrote: I have spent some time trying to organize my thoughts and here is some of what I have thought on. First off two players stand out more than others to me. Icanflylow(now bumatlarge) and LSB. I know LSB has been analyzed by barundar. There is however one post that strikes me as particularly useless made by LSB that should be used as a reason for an obvious lynch. This post ranks players in three catagories. 1 being the “top players” 2 being ones who have experience or shown to have it 3 being people who have less experience than 2 4 being new players. However, if you start reading the post more carefully, you will realize it’s a post indicating how the mafia “should” hit people to avoid off the radar. Now, a mafia reading this post now knows how to properly divide hits to maximize the team from dying. It doesn’t directly say how we should be saving those people, or how to analyze them. (note: he makes a short post on “how to use this list” right after but essentially says its useless till day 4-5). This list didn’t provide people who should be dt checked, it didn’t provide a list of who should be medic protected. It instead provided a long post that doesn’t help the town as much as it helps mafia. Why make a post as town that shows activity but barely helps the town at all? This could be a lack of experience on my part, but it surprises me this post was made without further detailing or breaking down of how the town can use the information aside from “bide and wait till people die to pin the reds” Bumatlarge This is his second post in the game, he clears one player of suspicion, FoS two players, one of which is responsible for the most pro town idea this game. It isn’t much to go on, but based on all the pages the thread has, the only thing he was able to comment on was the annul lynch? And do generalization FoS on players without anything solid? Seems off to me. Best post he has written all game, but the attitude is weird. He points out a few good things in regards to the LSB list, saying that the list is in essence useless to the town and more useful to the mafia (which is easy for him to point out if he is mafia). But again he references his noobiness "This could be lack of experience on my part". The paragraph he writes about bumatlarge is also pretty bad. He says "but based on all the pages the thread has, the only thing he was able to comment on was the annul lynch?" Yet he himself as hardly contributed anything as well, as by this time he's only made 6 posts. Notice the non commital attitude in the bottom part of his post. He seems to think bumatlarge is suspicious (which he for sure was at this point in the game) and all he says is "Seems off to me" when he could have easily voted or said something like, "we need to pressure this chump now!". (Turns out he votes for LSB next post.) Look, Bumatlarge didn't even respond to this post because he didn't need to! That's what the mafia want to do, try to make it look like they are pressuring someone when they aren't. If he made this post against you, would you sit down and write a reply to it? I sure wouldn't because he's not threatening at all. You can safely ignore him and nobody will notice. Good job blending in! Even after this is only posts were one liners or a restatement of his argument against LSB. It is quite convenient that he comes in right before day ends and votes for JBright. On March 03 2011 08:57 LastArgument wrote: I'm heading out for a bit and just got home from work and should be back before voting. However, until then. ##vote Jbright Ridiculously convenient if you ask me; this seems like an attempt to save his mafia buddy Seraph. (This was his last post in the game up until the writing of this). You might say that this doesn't mean anything because JBright is probably mafia as well. However Seraph is probably more valuable to the mafia than JBright (assuming JBright is mafia), which makes sense because Seraph has more experience, and is more active than JBright. ------------------------------------- It seems to me that we shouldn't kill JBright, as he is probably a townie. This might seem like a radical thing for me to say at first, because if JBright was town why didn't he die last night? The vote was pretty close at days end, surely the mafia could have gotten him killed right? No. The fact that a mafia died day 1 shows that the mafia have very little pressence in the thread (I discussed this in a previous post). If the mafia couldn't save annul on day 1 they wouldn't have been able to yesterday when it was much harder than day 1. LastArgument has not done anything that benefits the town (besides pointing out LSB's list thing I guess). Furthermore, it is clear that he is not a bored townie. He read the town guide and was trying to use it early game. He clearly has had suspicions against people and is able to point out what was wrong with LSB's list. He is for sure playing the game, just not in the thread, he's playing it on the mafia forum. LastArgument | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
I put them on my list at the start of night and promised more. Another one is GMarshall. I am pretty much incapable of providing analysis such as you guys did. My beliefs are entirely gut feelings. I've learned to trust them. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On March 04 2011 11:46 Jackal58 wrote: Thank you guys. I am not nearly as eloquent as you two are. I put them on my list at the start of night and promised more. Another one is GMarshall. I am pretty much incapable of providing analysis such as you guys did. My beliefs are entirely gut feelings. I've learned to trust them. It just takes a little bit of practice. Once you know the things to look for it's actually not as time consuming as you would think. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
This doesn't say much in itself because other members of the town have the same thing going for them (hi chaoser!). I totally did! Was just wrong on icemac that's all ;_; | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
Foolishness was putting up a picture above his mantel. It was a picture of Seraph with a red X through it. Foolishness had a row of these pictures and he was proud of the success they signified. He took a step back and admired his new trophy; “magnificent” he thought, “I can’t wait to add another.” Foolishness eased himself into an armchair and flicked on the TV. The news was playing a report about the lynching; Foolishness grinned as he saw himself at the head of the crowd pronouncing the death sentence. The crowd cheered as the red blood was spilled and Foolishness flicked the TV off. Satisfied with his success, Foolishness stretched in his chair and let his lids droop. The sound of a car slowing outside his house roused him from his reverie. Foolishness walked over to his front window and peeked out. A car was idling outside. Suddenly afraid, Foolishness pulled back. The sound of breaking glass startled him and he looked around. A small round object was sitting in the center of Foolishness’s living room. He barely had time to identify it. The fire trucks arrived ten minutes later but the house was already beyond repair, the cause was determined to be an internal explosion most likely caused by a grenade. Bumatlarge saw the explosion from his house a shivered. Despite the success of the lynch, the mafia was still as active as ever. Bumatlarge decided to find out who had been killed. He set out on foot figuring that would be less conspicuous. As emergency vehicles sped past him, Bum watched the fire slowly die down. He finally arrived well after the emergency vehicles had cleared out and crime scene tape had been laid out. Bum immediately recognized the house as Foolishness’s. He let out a heavy sigh; scum hunting was about to get a lot harder. As he turned to go home a man accosted him from the shadows. Bum was naturally wary but he allowed the distance to close a little, trusting that he would have enough warning if things went wrong. “Hey man how’s it going?” Inquired Bum in his friendliest voice. The man didn’t speak and alarm bells rang in Bum’s head. Realizing he wouldn’t be able to get away if the man had a gun, Bum flung himself on the figure. Suddenly his gut turned to ice, he was unsure at what was happening at first but as the man backed away Bum noticed a knife in his hand. The knife was coated red. It took Bum a second to realize this was his blood. When the police returned to the scene the next morning they found Bum with a single deep stab wound. Foolishness the Townie has been killed Bumatlarge the Townie has been killed It is now day 4! You have 48 hours to vote for the next lynch. Voting ends 12:00 KST | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
##VOTE: Keviconsim | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 04 2011 12:04 GMarshal wrote: ##Vote LastArgument Why not kevinconsim? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 04 2011 12:07 GMarshal wrote: Foolishness' last post was against LastArgument, I figure I might as well go with that and get Kevinconism tomorrow My bad. I ran Ser Apsi's post and Foolishness' post together. Damn picture. Unvote: Kevinscumsin Vote: Last Argument. | ||
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