Please just pick up and carry on with ALL the things you have been doing. It would be a sad day for SC2 if you slowed down or checked yourself in the slightest.
Do it for the horses!
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moge
United States124 Posts
Please just pick up and carry on with ALL the things you have been doing. It would be a sad day for SC2 if you slowed down or checked yourself in the slightest. Do it for the horses! | ||
Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
I'd say I would be one of your critics (though I havent felt the need to write something officially about it, since others have done more than enough of that). On February 26 2011 04:59 iNcontroL wrote: I love this game. I love this community. I am enveloped by my passion for all things sc2. All your "fanboys" and "haters" feel this way (well I'd say at least - random statistic - 90%). We all love the game. We all love the community. We all want that "esports" becomes big. I think that's the main point all sides can agree on. We have the "same" passion and want the same results. Now - you're a bit different. You are also fucking brave. Yes, I as a critic admit that you are one of the brave guys - like all "progamers", since you sacrifice the "normal" live. I personally am not brave enough to take the risk to be involved in esports at a professional level. I will study, get a degree & will have a "normal" job. I will hopefully live a "normal" live. But I hope some brave guy succeeds and makes esports big. Though since we're all mature people & have different experiences with society/live we all think "we know it". That makes us similiar again (be it the haters, brave ones, fanboys). So some of us think that the "easy" "casual" "flammatory" style you have shown until now might not be the professional way and it might hinder the development of what we all want to succeed. So to your (I think the major) question: On February 26 2011 04:59 iNcontroL wrote: That change is up to you the community. I want to hear what people think. I am a cohost of the podcast "State of the Game" and I have a stream on Justin.tv where I joke around a lot. I also post actively on TL and I read all other forums (reddit as well... ) Do what you think is right. But please continue to read the forums (be it TL / reddit). And if somebody "hates" you - sleep one night and read the "hate" post again. Probably the guy who wrote the hate post loves the game as well and wants it to succeed - and maybe he has a point? I dont say that everyone who criticizes has a point - but there might be some guys who do. Just be a bit less "compulsive" (dont know if that is the right term^^) and think "Those guys who criticize me are not only haters/trolls - they might have a point". If in doubt, just ask a "neutral" friend (I know all friends are kinda biased). And of coure you should ignore the "olololol you neeed to steeep down from nasl" posts. Those people are in the 10% | ||
SingDaSorrow
United States15 Posts
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kethers
United States719 Posts
Honestly when I heard that InControl was going to be at the helm of NASL as far as public relations, I was very worried about the image that he produces. What we have here is a chance to make a breakthrough in E-Sports history, and despite some of the antics I enjoy on SotG periodically, the fact that InControl speaks too critically about people and etc. made me cringe when I heard of his role in NASL. Despite the fact already thousands of people listen to SotG already and the controversy that frequently arises by what InControl says, I can only imagine what kind of backlash it can concoct when it becomes a much greater audience. I was somewhat relieved when this post came out because in order to promote E-Sports Onto the next stage, professionalism needs to exist whether you like it or not. The people shouting, "don't change at all! I LIKE it when you shit on ppl!" don't quite get what public image means. Talk to Day[9]. And I do realize your (Geoff) dislike of being compared to him, but what I mean is learn from his experiences and stances on being a more prominent figure in E-Sports. You can have your own styles and tendencies that are unique to each person, but there is a very basic level of professionalism which is grasped by all the grea commentators and hosts we have in E-Sports today and is something you will also have to realize in order to promote NASL in the manner it wants. So I hope you take this into your consideration | ||
SmoKim
Denmark10299 Posts
Incontrol fighting!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
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FILM
United States663 Posts
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Cryogenic
Canada75 Posts
I'm moving to LA in a year and I'll be there to wish you the best personally. iNcontroL fighting! | ||
oursblanc
Canada1450 Posts
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
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CheAse
Canada919 Posts
The people blowing his comments out of proportion about topics such as Kelly and Select are ruining the entertainment value of sotg, his streaming, and the nasl. There shouldn't have to be censorship because a bunch of immature trolls see an opportunity to create drama and pounce on it. Please Geoff, don't let them ruin it for everyone. Stay the same. | ||
Creep
United States229 Posts
On February 26 2011 08:55 elmizzt wrote: Show nested quote + On February 26 2011 08:52 Creep wrote: On February 26 2011 08:48 elmizzt wrote: On February 26 2011 08:44 Creep wrote: On February 26 2011 08:40 elmizzt wrote: On February 26 2011 08:38 Creep wrote: On February 26 2011 08:15 elmizzt wrote: On February 26 2011 08:09 ImHuko wrote: You guys should read about what actually happened so you can understand how big this apology is. Mocking kelly was only some of what happened. Mocking kelly was only part of what happened, but the rest was ridiculous and insignificant to the point that it is ridiculous to have blown up so much. Get off your high horse and turn off the condescending attitude towards Geoff. He has already shown that he is the bigger man in every aspect of the phrase. Looking for a restream of GOMTV, while also being the face of NASL, isn't really insignificant. What kind of message does it send to people when you watch restreams of tournaments but then (as i'm sure incontrol would agree) not wanting people to restream your own tournament? Incontrol did things, and he apologized, you don't need to act like nothing happened. No, it really is insignificant, considering that he stated that after being contacted by a jtv admin who told him he was breaking the rules, he stopped. Not to mention that he owns a gomtv premium account. You are talking about a different thing. That was when Incontrol was not even really restreaming, like, half of the video was being shown for 8 minutes. The next day Incontrol asked for a restream of GSL on his own stream. Please refer to my earlier post. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=196316¤tpage=7#139 I read your earlier post when you posted it, thank you. It was full of misrepresentation and sensationalization. In fact, the way that you interpret iNc's statements are so dramatic that I almost have to assume that they are intentional misinterpretation. I'm not trying to misinterpret anything. Go look at the posts I linked to, just look at them, he says he did these things and he even apologized. I read all those posts when inc first posted them. And again when you linked them to compare. The claims you make about what he said are completely off-base, and your post is basically you shoving words in his mouth, then linking his post, which says nothing of the kind. You may not be trying to misinterpret anything, but you are definitely succeeding. Fine, ignore what I said which is confirmed by the posts Incontrol made that I quoted too. Reading the posts Incontrol made confirms what I said, even without my own posting. You need to realize I really do like Incontrol, but lying about what he did completely undermines the entire point of Incontrol apologizing. | ||
leakingpear
United Kingdom302 Posts
On February 26 2011 09:08 kethers wrote: I was somewhat relieved when this post came out because in order to promote E-Sports Onto the next stage, professionalism needs to exist whether you like it or not. The people shouting, "don't change at all! I LIKE it when you shit on ppl!" don't quite get what public image means. This is the attitude that most annoys me on these forums, you have no evidence or precedent to imply that a) your idea of professionalism, whatever that may be because it's clearly a nebulous term and up to interpretation, even exists; and b) that it's necessary or advantageous when 'promoting e-sports' which thanks to day9's vomit inducing 'lets make esports happen' daily means that everyone on the forum can't possibly disagree with something if it's prefaced with something like"in order to make esports a reality". The reality is no one knows what will make something successful in terms of sponsorships, TV coverage and so on, there's no evidence for this popular myth that everything has to be as watered down and flat as current sports journalism and coverage is and previous attempts to present e-sports in that manner through CGS and other shows have failed miserably. If anything the people who want e-sports to take off should be supporting popular and controversial community leaders precisely because they draw big crowds and show that there's something to be passionate about in a real manner. Honestly I can understand changing to a more watered down 'professional' attitude if it was insisted by the TV station/event producer, even if I don't approve of it, what I can't understand is advocating people do it ahead of time in order to appease some imaginary sponsor/TV station that decides what to broadcast based on this arbitrary and easily fixable metric of professionalism over actual properties that matter like popularity, charismatic figures and how easy it is to get into. | ||
imPERSONater
United States1324 Posts
Celebrities go on Jon Stewart, SNL and other similar programs all the time where they say things that would offend others if they were serious. The problem occurs because you don't have a distinct line between your work and play. Personally, I wish you were in play mode all the time so don't get too caught up about it. I bet everyone will tune into NASL anyway so no worries | ||
theqat
United States2856 Posts
That said, I applaud Incontrol's forthrightness and commitment to the community | ||
Tyree
1508 Posts
He has learned a valueable lesson and will need to act more proffesional from now considering he IS the face of NASL regardless of who says what. The amount of responsiblity on his shoulders is immense, who is to say we will ever get a chance for a big tournament like this in the west for SC2 ever again? All that is on his shoulders now, and he has no time to dance infront of you to entertain you. I really hope you grow into your role IC, this can be your legacy, the man who spearheaded the NASL and brought proper SC2 competition to North America. That is something people will remember more than any player who won ____ Tournament. I think you are ready for that big guy, you got broad shoulders and i dont mean just your actual shoulders but mentally i think you are fit for the job | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
P.S. If you see some nerdy asian kid, one-fourth your size, go up to you at PAX (I'll be slinging my bright orange messenger bag), it's me | ||
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