EPTOtherwise I think you will do great. You aren't the best caster around yet but you're getting a lot better so I think you will do fine in NASL.
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
Otherwise I think you will do great. You aren't the best caster around yet but you're getting a lot better so I think you will do fine in NASL. | ||
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Archontas
United States319 Posts
You are under a brighter spotlight now and your mistakes go through a magnifying glass. There's nothing that can be done to change that, its the price of the path you have chosen. But don't think that means that the community no longer likes or respects you. You're a great player and caster and a benefit to the game. | ||
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Creep
United States229 Posts
On February 26 2011 08:15 elmizzt wrote: Mocking kelly was only part of what happened, but the rest was ridiculous and insignificant to the point that it is ridiculous to have blown up so much. Get off your high horse and turn off the condescending attitude towards Geoff. He has already shown that he is the bigger man in every aspect of the phrase. Looking for a restream of GOMTV, while also being the face of NASL, isn't really insignificant. What kind of message does it send to people when you watch restreams of tournaments but then (as i'm sure incontrol would agree) not wanting people to restream your own tournament? Incontrol did things, and he apologized, you don't need to act like nothing happened. | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
On February 26 2011 08:38 Creep wrote: Looking for a restream of GOMTV, while also being the face of NASL, isn't really insignificant. What kind of message does it send to people when you watch restreams of tournaments but then (as i'm sure incontrol would agree) not wanting people to restream your own tournament? Incontrol did things, and he apologized, you don't need to act like nothing happened. No, it really is insignificant, considering that he stated that after being contacted by a jtv admin who told him he was breaking the rules, he stopped. Not to mention that he owns a gomtv premium account. | ||
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LittleAtari
Jordan1090 Posts
I love your personality. I get it. I know most of the time you're not looking to crap talk on a person and that you're friends with a lot of the people you make fun of. Other people, when their fanboyism gets in the way will jump on you for that because they think you mean harm. They have the best intentions and so do you. I guess it's easier to change yourself than to get everyone else to understand, but remember what makes people hate you is the same thing that makes other people love you. While I support your decision to change the way to conduct yourself a little bit, remember that it will get to a point where you cant make everyone happy. Just do the best job that you can and be the best person that you can. Everything else will fall into place. Remember, even the people who criticize you may love you. I hope I do end up meeting you at an event or something because you seem like a pretty chill and comfortable guy who genuinely appreciates the support and criticism he gets from the community Good Luck iNcontrol and make eSports happen in the west =) PS. sad to see you not a banling anymore. I suppose you may just not have the time anymore, but I hope this isn't one of the steps you're taking to reduce your community exposure but I guess I understand since it is one of the simplest ways. It was probably a big decision too. | ||
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Creep
United States229 Posts
On February 26 2011 08:40 elmizzt wrote: No, it really is insignificant, considering that he stated that after being contacted by a jtv admin who told him he was breaking the rules, he stopped. Not to mention that he owns a gomtv premium account. You are talking about a different thing. That was when Incontrol was not even really restreaming, like, half of the video was being shown for 8 minutes. The next day Incontrol asked for a restream of GSL on his own stream. Please refer to my earlier post. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=196316¤tpage=7#139 | ||
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EdSlyB
Portugal1621 Posts
 ps.: I also can say if haven't check yet go read TiquidTyler's thread where he talks about his concerns about the NASL and the teams. ^^ http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=195768 | ||
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BROverlord
United States80 Posts
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RuN
Brazil234 Posts
Keeping a sarcastic tone and witty persona is very important just remember that some lines its better just not cross. You can sure and some will love you for it but a lot of people will hate you for it.. Thats my 2 cents, I think you will do a great job. | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
On February 26 2011 08:44 Creep wrote: You are talking about a different thing. That was when Incontrol was not even really restreaming, like, half of the video was being shown for 8 minutes. The next day Incontrol asked for a restream of GSL on his own stream. Please refer to my earlier post. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=196316¤tpage=7#139 I read your earlier post when you posted it, thank you. It was full of misrepresentation and sensationalization. In fact, the way that you interpret iNc's statements are so dramatic that I almost have to assume that they are intentional misinterpretation. | ||
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leakingpear
United Kingdom302 Posts
I can only speak for myself but the entire reason I like you is because you're honest and confident about your opinions and even seeing you on the various streamed coaching sessions where you're trying to be professional, it comes off as remarkably unnatural. Yeah sure the GSL thing was dumb, but don't lump actual copyright infringement with offending Kellymilkies by doing an impression of her. She should not be offended, you didn't insult her personally and were far too apologetic immediately after, you made fun of her accent because it's ridiculous, it's up to her to realise it and either be self deprecating about it or try and improve it, it's not up to you to apologise for an innocuous impression. In short: Haters gonna hate, keeps it real Geoffy R. | ||
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Creep
United States229 Posts
On February 26 2011 08:48 elmizzt wrote: I read your earlier post when you posted it, thank you. It was full of misrepresentation and sensationalization. In fact, the way that you interpret iNc's statements are so dramatic that I almost have to assume that they are intentional misinterpretation. I'm not trying to misinterpret anything. Go look at the posts I linked to, just look at them, he says he did these things and he even apologized. | ||
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tsuxiit
1305 Posts
On February 26 2011 08:26 Gentleman7 wrote: Geoff, I think what kind of hit me (although I haven't been to vocal about in on TL, more on screddit) is that by being the front man of the NASL you had basically bought yourself into the casting scene. The 400k in prize money makes NASL THE tourney, and since you are the caster you are THE caster. What rubbed me as wrong about this is you had never really played that role before. Sure you had casted the GCPL, but I still saw you as the joker of the community - the troll who was a mod, the guy who did impressions of people and made fun of Artosis (please don't stop doing that btw). And now, suddenly, I wake up and the NASL is here, suddenly the biggest tourney in the NA scene, and your casting it - which bring about a conflict. You can't be the joker/troll on TL and StotG and the head man of NA eSports at the same time, which means one of those rolls is going to suffer. And that's what's upset me. Clearly you've chosen the NASL (power to you, best of luck, godspeed, etc etc) but I'm going to miss the other have of iNcontroL who was out of control (get it, it's punny). Anyway, your life, your choice. But you can't have both. glhf ~ I wish people wouldn't all think that Geoff cannot be funny and simultaneously be the frontman of NASL. Long in the past, if you told people iNcontroL would one day be the head of a $400,000 Starcraft tournament, people would have shit their pants and told you to fuck off, but not because they didn't think his jokes weren't politically correct enough. To me, Geoff and his attitude are pure Starcraft. But to everyone else, I guess not. | ||
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LostBLuE
Canada188 Posts
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Rialz
Brazil177 Posts
But know that it does not reflect the oppinion of everyone, as i personally wouldn't want you to be less of a joker and interact with the community less. Good luck to you and i hope you are succsessful with whatever you chose to be your "behavior". | ||
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
What you are doing here Geoff shows a ridiculous amount of character. And we all thank you for it. You are really the perfect guy for the job. Keep it up. | ||
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BetterFasterStronger
United States604 Posts
Just like Kelly. No body really cared about her ascent untill she started casting GSL. Now people have it as a highlight of their argument. Also. Fuck reddit, its just full of trolls that got banned from tl (Probably a handful of them were banned by incontrol). User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
On February 26 2011 08:52 Creep wrote: I'm not trying to misinterpret anything. Go look at the posts I linked to, just look at them, he says he did these things and he even apologized. I read all those posts when inc first posted them. And again when you linked them to compare. The claims you make about what he said are completely off-base, and your post is basically you shoving words in his mouth, then linking his post, which says nothing of the kind. You may not be trying to misinterpret anything, but you are definitely succeeding. | ||
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SgtSquiglz
United States668 Posts
All i can ask is please don't go too far with the "professionalism". Obviously as the face of a new league like NASL, you need to act as such. However, what sets you apart from a lot of the SC2 pros is your joking around, and poking a little fun at people, and things of the like. I really hope you dont get rid of that entirely. As you said you would love to meet each and every one of us, I hope you will be at the MLG in Columbus (the only pro tournament easily accessible for us Michiganders), so I can say hi in person. I wish you the best of luck with everything, and am eagerly awaiting the start of NASL! | ||
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GhostchantXI
Canada2 Posts
My suggestions/expectations: Obviously swearing/cursing whatever you want to call it will need to be brought down to national TV levels, can't have "OH MY GOD LOOK AT ALL THE FUCKING BANELINGS!" in the cast or "He's a fucking idiot." in interviews (unless you guys are already planning on bleeping? idk). Suggestion: - At a certain level of all professional sports there is a 'deposit' like you have, however I feel $250 is too small a deposit. I hope that if/when NASL surpasses it's first few seasons that this dollar figure will be raised and the penalty be raised as well. This is a good starting point but $250 really isn't much money and players that are much more well off may shrug off the deposit as a joke. I have seen it happen in lower levels of pro sports and don't want it to happen in the NASL, especially in the early stages. The idea is NEEDED to maintain a professional atmosphere but the penalty, I feel, isn't enough. I am not a rich man and If I was a scumbag that thought the world revolved around me the $50 penalty per infraction wouldn't come close to making me flinch. Expectations: - As much as you (iNControl) and the other casters love playing the game at a competitive level I hope/expect that once the league takes off and more top end players start playing in the NASL that yourself and the other casters discontinue playing in the league. I don't mean this in a malicious way whatsoever but I feel that this will take away from the experience. This currently makes perfect sense that you (the casters) would take part in this tournament, but eventually there will be enough solid players playing in the NASL that you stepping down would allow for more talent to shine. Other professional sports do not have casters/announcers playing in games than jumping back into the booth to cast the next few weeks, other than special guests that usually have free time because they/their teams get knocked out of the playoffs. Currently, as much as I enjoy your play and the other casters/players, I feel this is the only "unprofessional" thing I have seen in the league thus far. It is 100% unavoidable at the moment which is why It isn't a big deal but I feel if/when the league gets bigger and more popular that having 100% dedicated casters will be much more beneficial to new fans so they have something familiar to come back to each time and for long time fans that enjoy the iNControl/X combination. Having guest player hosts would be great once this time comes as well to cast along side you and whoever else is casting that night. ________________ Great job this far, separating yourself from the community = no  I would make a "lol haters r xxxx" statement but I think everyone knows they are just idiots calling the kettle black. | ||
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