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On February 12 2011 15:30 pevergreen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 14:58 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Mod, are there any rules on activity, and what does vote in 3/4ths of lynches mean? This is as harsh as I've been in activity requirements, ever. If you don't have a valid vote registered in 75% of day phases, you will be modkilled. So you can skim by with 3 posts over 4 days phases with just a vote. Lurking is a strategy, up to you if you punish a player for not posting a lot.
At what point would a player actually be modkilled? If I understand this right, nobody can be modkilled until day 4?
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Vancouver14381 Posts
Hmm, so the earliest possible modkill will be after the 2nd day. If someone doesn't vote in the first 2 days, they automatically suffer WoG.
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On February 12 2011 14:15 beefy187 wrote:
Vote: Ace
Its my policy to vote for people who votes for me. I'll make them pay...
Now I don't know most of you, but I'm glad that fluffy is behaving well... His my responsibility and its nice to see him playing properly.
vote: beefy187
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looks like kita has had his eye specifically on aidnai for no apparent reason from the get go.
check out top of page 8
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=186653¤tpage=8#142
On February 11 2011 13:57 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
Rofl...I see Kenpachi and Pandain are not playing, so I hate to say it Coag but you're our only viable day 1 lynch.
I see that there are only 3 scum, and there's no abstaining. We're almost certainly gonna be lynching a lot of townies this game. KP will be our best indicator of lynch success it looks like, though if we kill the GF we may not realize immediately.
I'm most interested in getting to know the new guys pevergreen brought over, so let's get down to business:
Vote: ELITECubWarman8
for being new and having such a long fricking name. You suck....twice.If we were to select one of the newer guys to lynch, I would choose Project Psycho. He certainly gets on my nerves. Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 13:50 Coagulation wrote:
We should lynch zerroth
because the last game
completely inactive
only posted/vote to avoid modkill etc
Lets get the inactives out now Agreed. In Haunted Mafia, he publicly claimed mafia directly resulting in a town loss.
anyone else see it?
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im thinking its a role condition that has made him attack aidnai the way he did.
now im just trying to figure out what the condition is.
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I really disliked Believer's vote a page ago, with absolutely no content with it whatsoever. I also didn't like seeing someone having a post edited earlier, and I was just informed that it was him in PM. I don't want to just go with the mold. I don't want to bandwagon. I want to lynch scum.
Vote: Believer
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On February 12 2011 15:33 Node wrote:
At what point would a player actually be modkilled? If I understand this right, nobody can be modkilled until day 4?
If they haven't voted at all, end of day 2, otherwise end of day 4.
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this is probably the most lenient game of mafia in regards to modkills i have ever seen.
and you know what i bet theres still 5-6 people who get modkilled in the end.
anyway. it looks like we are gonna have to deal with lurkers inactives with lynches
otherwise mafia will hide all game and have zero incentive to post.
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Going to bed now, won't be back until a few hours after lynch. I don't want to hop onto the Zerroth bandwagon in case he actually shows up sometime and I won't be around to change my vote.
##Unvote: Mr. Wiggles
##Vote: kitaman27
Voting for kita, I want to see an explanation of the very quick tunneling of aidnai. It might have something to do with your red text, but honestly this could mean anything from getting a new power to forming a new faction based off a quick skim through some of pever's other games. I want to see what you have to say now that others are questioning you, not just aidnai.
So long, see you guys tomorrow.
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On February 12 2011 15:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Going to bed now, won't be back until a few hours after lynch. I don't want to hop onto the Zerroth bandwagon in case he actually shows up sometime and I won't be around to change my vote.
##Unvote: Mr. Wiggles
##Vote: kitaman27
Voting for kita, I want to see an explanation of the very quick tunneling of aidnai. It might have something to do with your red text, but honestly this could mean anything from getting a new power to forming a new faction based off a quick skim through some of pever's other games. I want to see what you have to say now that others are questioning you, not just aidnai.
So long, see you guys tomorrow.
Kita isnt gonna tell anyone anything
and zerroth isnt gonna jump into the thread and start contributing anytime soon we might as well get rid of him.
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Yeah, this game is ridiculously lenient activity-wise. Usually I'm not a huge supporter of lynching inactives, but since they're basically never going to die off on their own we're going to have to use the lynch to either scare them out or kill them. Otherwise it'll be far, far too easy for mafia to hide among them.
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can we get a ratification on the inactivity rules.. if people dont at least make the effort to Vote every lynch session then are they even actually playing the game?
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Wow, I really didn't get anything out of reading the thread again. I didn't really expect to, but it's slightly dismal. The 75% vote thing can be nice, if most of these people genuinely forgot, but there are a lot of them. May seem bad to bandwagon on this zerroth train, but he's been inactive before, and now that he isn't going to get punished for t immediately...
I'm willing to give siniquity and insanious a chance, as Ive played with them before and they seem to be forgetful. The new players should be given a chance to contribute.
Vote zerroth
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On February 12 2011 15:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Going to bed now, won't be back until a few hours after lynch. I don't want to hop onto the Zerroth bandwagon in case he actually shows up sometime and I won't be around to change my vote.
##Unvote: Mr. Wiggles
##Vote: kitaman27
Voting for kita, I want to see an explanation of the very quick tunneling of aidnai. It might have something to do with your red text, but honestly this could mean anything from getting a new power to forming a new faction based off a quick skim through some of pever's other games. I want to see what you have to say now that others are questioning you, not just aidnai.
So long, see you guys tomorrow.
Hmm explanation? I wanted him to die for his scummy actions. Its pretty obvious to me he should be lynched. I have no alternate win condition nor do I gain any special power from having him lynched. If that were the case, I would have been much more subtle.
p.s. Nice abstain.
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On February 12 2011 16:02 Node wrote:
Yeah, this game is ridiculously lenient activity-wise. Usually I'm not a huge supporter of lynching inactives, but since they're basically never going to die off on their own we're going to have to use the lynch to either scare them out or kill them. Otherwise it'll be far, far too easy for mafia to hide among them.
I actually agree with this in terms of scaring them out. Pressuring inactives through bandwagons is a valid strategy. If they aren't posting, though, and you notice it, you could ask the mod to PM them. If they respond to his prod, and don't post, then that is generally scummy.
However, sometimes people are simply just inactive. It is not always the best to just gun for the easy targets; it is not efficient to always look low. Ace can be scum, just the same as someone who is lurking, so it is proper to analyze everyone somehow.
I like that you are kind of doing this, though you could actually do something about it, as opposed to complaining.
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kitaman27
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote:Gryffindor. You'll notice towns on TL.net like to throw around FOSs at the most active players. Remember everyone, zerroth is not the only inactive at present. People with no posts since day start: - Siniquity - Zerroth - Project Psycho* - Johnhughthom* - ELITEcubwarman8* - Insanious - Beefy187* - me_viet* * indicates people with no posts in this thread at all, meaning they may not have access yet. If access is not granted soon, I hope Pevergreen would consider extending day some more. Of the people without asterisks, all of them (insanious, siniquity, and zerroth) have had issues with inactivity in the past, and are all equally eligible for that sort of policy lynch. Actually I don't remember any mod actions against siniquity (I know zerroth has a modkill/ban and insanious is sitting on a warning). But I don't remember siniquity being particularly active either. IN ANY CASE, the sheeping on zerroth is DT worthy, as Ace pointed out. Also, I'd like to say this post is scummy. Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 06:09 SouthRawrea wrote:I'm not sure if you're all aware but the point of this game is to scumhunt, find and then subsequently lynch the mafia. I highly recommend any newer players to ask questions early on before we get into deep shit because we want you to learn whilst also not having you as a liability. That being said with this vote count it's not hard to see that we're largely divided on votes right now: Vote CountMisder:1 EliteClubwarman:1 theflufflyone93:1 Node:1 zerroth:4 Brownbear:1 bumatlarge:1 Lunargotnodestiny:1 At this point, it's most likely that the rest of the town is going to bandwagon zerroth unless a new development arises. I ask of you zerroth to help us help you help us by trying to contribute or by simply responding. If you're unsure of what you should be saying, we can direct you to some guides in this section of the teamliquid forums and try and point you in a general direction of what you want to achieve in this game. Leave no man behind  . 1) generic advice to town (our job is scumhunting, recommendations etc) 2) posting a vote count (easy way to contribute without contributing) 3) 3rd paragraph is just weird. The point of putting votes on lurkers is to force them to talk...why are you trying to coax some contribution out of zerroth by being buddy-buddy? Overall this feels like a forced post, aka, scum trying to figure out something town-like to post. On February 12 2011 08:18 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 04:08 GGQ wrote:On February 11 2011 19:12 Coagulation wrote:GGQ+ Show Spoiler +Likes to vote for people gives no reason and tells town to deal with it when they call him out on it.
this definitely sets off some alarms
FOS Yeah, because this is the only game I've ever played. You're free to look at some of my other games if you want. There doesn't seem to be any sort of plan or anything. Lots of people being pretty useless. I already know who I'd kill if I was maf... gonna be a boring night phase =/ unvote: Coagulation
vote: Zerroth I dont care if you have played a million fucking games. your acting scummy this game and that takes complete precedence over any other information that i have on you. btw there are 4 different people i have counted in this thread asking you to justify your votes and still you havnt posted anything of value as to why you are doing what you are doing. if your voting people based off what town is pushing as a good lynch.. thats relatively fine on day 1. but you gotta TELL people THAT. Show nested quote +There doesn't seem to be any sort of plan or anything. Lots of people being pretty useless. I already know who I'd kill if I was maf... gonna be a boring night phase =/ THIS IS A TERRIBLE POST. there are already 3 people with FOS ON YOU and many more wondering what the fuck your THINKING. shape up and shape up fast or your ass is gonna be on the line faster than you can type "Lots of people being pretty useless." On February 12 2011 08:20 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 08:14 chaoser wrote:
vote: Zerroth
For no goddamn reason whatsoever EXPECTED NOTHING LESS. On February 12 2011 09:08 thefluffyone93 wrote:
I wonder who is roleplaying as ATPG...
Also, doesn't Romanic tend to post the tally of votes a lot? On February 12 2011 10:09 Coagulation wrote:
Ahh 4 Post in row nice see? On February 12 2011 11:48 Node wrote:
EBWOP: I also dislike the way bum responded to Coag's pressure. On February 12 2011 12:41 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 12:22 Coagulation wrote:
Also i would like to point out that i never gave a Scum verdict at the end of my analysis because i didnt feel it was warranted its still far too early to properly get a read on you. however i think you are the first person i have ever seen post "stop doing post by post analysis on players"
I recall last mafia game everyone pissing and moaning that i "wasnt trying hard enough" (brownbear/node can verify this) Now im getting the "your trying too hard"
Fuck my life.
Mind = blown. I don't usually support PBPA. You're looking at someone's post trying to find scum qualities instead of reading them with an objective head. Look at the terrible justifications you have for the posts I made. You aren't scum hunting you're just posting shit. On February 12 2011 13:06 Ace wrote:
I really didn't realize this was a game with PMs v_v On February 12 2011 13:19 Misder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 21:42 gryffindor wrote:
I don't like your OMGUS, and I don't like your response to me, you're my top scumspect.
Misder, can you give me a reference to your best town and best scum game?
IGMEOY Little late on this, but I'll answer as it will help scumhunting if people read previous games, and that you haven't been on lately either, so technically its not "late". I've only played one game as scum, and that was Mafia XXX. I'll warn you that that was a really bad game for me. I don't really have a "best" town game. Maybe the most recent one I played in, PYP3? idk, you can look at any of my games and you'd probably get the same read on me. On February 12 2011 13:26 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 13:13 aidnai wrote:On February 12 2011 12:36 kitaman27 wrote:On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
Rofl...I see Kenpachi and Pandain are not playing, so I hate to say it Coag but you're our only viable day 1 lynch. Jumps on the day one Coag bandwagon. Yet doesn't place his vote on him until the lynch gains more steam. On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
I'm most interested in getting to know the new guys pevergreen brought over, so let's get down to business:
Vote: ELITECubWarman8
for being new and having such a long fricking name. His reason for the lynch is because he doesn't like his name? What kind of excuse is that? On February 11 2011 14:34 aidnai wrote:
I'm tempted to browse pevergreen's games at the other site since I have a feeling he's run this exact setup before... No time for that at the moment unfortunately. What does this post even mean? "Hey guys, I was thinking of doing something, but I just want to let you all know that I'm not" Thanks for the info! On February 11 2011 15:37 aidnai wrote:
First off, don't edit. It's a cardinal sin, or perhaps a mortal sin (anyone know which is worse?). Second, before you start defending Coag, I'd go look at some of his prior games. His play style is hard to read at best, and harmful to town at worst... Again, pushes the Coag bandwagon based on the fact that he is a tough player to read. While we are at it, why not lynch Ace too? On February 11 2011 17:44 aidnai wrote:
Node is correct about Coag by the way, whether or not either of them is scum. Coag has done nothing unusual for his own 'meta' so far this game. In other words: Leave coag alone! He has done nothing wrong this game. Why are people pushing for his lynch? On February 11 2011 17:44 aidnai wrote:
FOS on gryffindor. I won't change my vote yet, until more people have posted and I have reads on more people. But your logic for voting Node is suspect to say the least.
Meaning: I won't change my vote.......until its safe enough to do so. On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote:On February 12 2011 06:09 SouthRawrea wrote:I'm not sure if you're all aware but the point of this game is to scumhunt, find and then subsequently lynch the mafia. I highly recommend any newer players to ask questions early on before we get into deep shit because we want you to learn whilst also not having you as a liability. That being said with this vote count it's not hard to see that we're largely divided on votes right now: Vote CountMisder:1 EliteClubwarman:1 theflufflyone93:1 Node:1 zerroth:4 Brownbear:1 bumatlarge:1 Lunargotnodestiny:1 At this point, it's most likely that the rest of the town is going to bandwagon zerroth unless a new development arises. I ask of you zerroth to help us help you help us by trying to contribute or by simply responding. If you're unsure of what you should be saying, we can direct you to some guides in this section of the teamliquid forums and try and point you in a general direction of what you want to achieve in this game. Leave no man behind . 1) generic advice to town Overall this feels like a forced post, aka, scum trying to figure out something town-like to post. On February 12 2011 07:49 aidnai wrote:
directing DT checks at the people voting zerroth is really a great option I believe. Calls out SouthRawrea for giving generic advice to the town and then does so himself. Comes off hypocritical. On February 12 2011 07:25 aidnai wrote:
If access is not granted soon, I hope Pevergreen would consider extending day some more. Lets lynch this scum. If you are unsure about the day one vote, then here is our best option. Most people on the Eastern Coast will be going to bed soon so its important we all agree on a target before night. Otherwise, 3 votes might be enough to get someone lynched. VOTE FOR THE SCUM
VOTE aidnai This is rich Kita, really rich... Let's summarize your case, if that's possible. 1) Jumps on the lynch Coag day 1 bandwagon with an obvious joke post that is followed by me later saying 'Coag is hard to read, don't waste your time defending him' and 'Coag is within his normal meta'. 2) gives generic town advice actually saying DT's should check the zerroth vote list is pretty specific, but unfortunately I can't take credit for the idea :/ 3) FoSing and pressuring people is a bad thing? I should be vote hopping instead? lol... You know what, this really feels like an Annul vs LSB situation from, uh, what mafia was hmm.. it's slipped my mind. You remember, when Annul was godfather and tunneled LSB to his day one lynch with the expectation of not being held accountable later. i am also extremely perplexed how he had come to the conclusion that you are a good lynch target from his analysis and to make matters even more intriguing he is going to what i would consider extreme lengths in PM land to see your ass hang tonight. cant say im too inclined to step my ass in the line of fire to save you from his apparently out of nowhere vendetta considering you previously seemed to find it logical to policy lynch me day one. but i doubt your mafia.. at least i doubt theres enough substantial evidence to justify lynching you. On February 12 2011 13:37 Misder wrote:Well, there really hasn't been much pressure in terms of voting. The inactives are still winning the vote count by a decent amount. I like pressure though. And as such, Unvote Ace
Vote AidnaiYay for bandwagoning? How is PM land going for everyone btw? I'm lonely.  On February 12 2011 13:40 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 13:37 Misder wrote:How is PM land going for everyone btw? I'm lonely. PM Kita he needs a friend. On February 12 2011 15:43 gryffindor wrote:
I really disliked Believer's vote a page ago, with absolutely no content with it whatsoever. I also didn't like seeing someone having a post edited earlier, and I was just informed that it was him in PM. I don't want to just go with the mold. I don't want to bandwagon. I want to lynch scum.
Vote: Believer
On February 12 2011 16:22 gryffindor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 16:02 Node wrote:
Yeah, this game is ridiculously lenient activity-wise. Usually I'm not a huge supporter of lynching inactives, but since they're basically never going to die off on their own we're going to have to use the lynch to either scare them out or kill them. Otherwise it'll be far, far too easy for mafia to hide among them. I actually agree with this in terms of scaring them out. Pressuring inactives through bandwagons is a valid strategy. If they aren't posting, though, and you notice it, you could ask the mod to PM them. If they respond to his prod, and don't post, then that is generally scummy. However, sometimes people are simply just inactive. It is not always the best to just gun for the easy targets; it is not efficient to always look low. Ace can be scum, just the same as someone who is lurking, so it is proper to analyze everyone somehow. I like that you are kind of doing this, though you could actually do something about it, as opposed to complaining.
I smell a conspiracy...
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thats the problem tho
you cant analyze someone who posted nothing.
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kita apparently has to quote 50 random posts that have nothing in common and then write a line that has nothing to do with anything.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On February 12 2011 16:30 Coagulation wrote:
kita apparently has to quote 50 random posts that have nothing in common and then write a line that has nothing to do with anything.
How about you just learn your lesson and it wouldn't be necessary?
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