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On January 20 2011 19:49 Sumsi wrote: well I guess that happens if you can't harass the zerg you can't handle the crap he throws at you in the long run
in SC2 that would be a game imbalance that needs to be fixed, haha Well in the same sense if you can't beat a Protoss and let him get to Reaver-archon-templar ball in the end...
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On January 20 2011 19:49 StylishVODs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 19:47 flamewheel wrote:On January 20 2011 19:44 ArvickHero wrote:On January 20 2011 19:43 Severedevil wrote:On January 20 2011 19:41 flamewheel wrote: Wow Stork didn't cancel those zealots... The resources are refunded when the building dies. Canceling only applies to unfinished buildings. wtf are you serious I'm gonna have to test it out Yeah same o_O Never knew that. Canceling units will refund. If you don't cancel and building is lost u lose that cash. So... do you know something Stork should know?
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Great in red @ 1 Kal in white @ 7
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I think this is were stork will suffer for being in bot MSL and OSL. 2 bo5 series with alot of different maps vs two different players is going to be to hard.
I fear that stork might slump out of both due to this :-(
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On January 20 2011 19:50 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 19:49 StylishVODs wrote:On January 20 2011 19:47 flamewheel wrote:On January 20 2011 19:44 ArvickHero wrote:On January 20 2011 19:43 Severedevil wrote:On January 20 2011 19:41 flamewheel wrote: Wow Stork didn't cancel those zealots... The resources are refunded when the building dies. Canceling only applies to unfinished buildings. wtf are you serious I'm gonna have to test it out Yeah same o_O Never knew that. Canceling units will refund. If you don't cancel and building is lost u lose that cash. So... do you know something Stork should know? Why would commentators make a big deal of it then? o.0 Times like this I wish I spoke krn
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Woah, kal sees pool timing and still goes nexus before forge.
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Beautiful game by Zero.
It's hard being in both leagues ... just because Flash made it look doable doesn't mean it is. There's a reason why only two players have ever won both titles simultaneously and only one player (Flash) has done it when the two leagues were actually running at basically the same time.
Stork fans need to lower their expectations - I'd be thrilled with even just one title if I were one of them. He could very well walk away with an OSL silver and an MSL ro8 exit.
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On January 20 2011 19:49 hauton wrote: I agree that it's hard, but not impossible, to tell that the Z opponent is not committed to Hydra Bust by looking at drone saturation/production.
But it IS difficult.
Personally, I would commit less to static cannon defense and more towards a proactive goon counter - even if the bust doesn't come, you have a sizable force with which to go on the offense with.
However, Stork went for a fairly greedy build with the Forge --> Nexus, so he does deserve a bit of blame.
Stork was going for Sair/reaver of 1 gateway . No way can he counter even a small amount of hydras with 1 gate if he doesn't make cannons .
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On January 20 2011 19:49 StylishVODs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 19:47 flamewheel wrote:On January 20 2011 19:44 ArvickHero wrote:On January 20 2011 19:43 Severedevil wrote:On January 20 2011 19:41 flamewheel wrote: Wow Stork didn't cancel those zealots... The resources are refunded when the building dies. Canceling only applies to unfinished buildings. wtf are you serious I'm gonna have to test it out Yeah same o_O Never knew that. Canceling units will refund. If you don't cancel and building is lost u lose that cash. i just tested it out
i had a gateway w/ 3 zealots queued up, attacked w/ 12 zealots, stopped all mining
got a bunch of money back o_o
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On January 20 2011 19:53 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 19:49 StylishVODs wrote:On January 20 2011 19:47 flamewheel wrote:On January 20 2011 19:44 ArvickHero wrote:On January 20 2011 19:43 Severedevil wrote:On January 20 2011 19:41 flamewheel wrote: Wow Stork didn't cancel those zealots... The resources are refunded when the building dies. Canceling only applies to unfinished buildings. wtf are you serious I'm gonna have to test it out Yeah same o_O Never knew that. Canceling units will refund. If you don't cancel and building is lost u lose that cash. i just tested it out i had a gateway w/ 3 zealots queued up, attacked w/ 12 zealots, stopped all mining got a bunch of money back o_o o_O Small and useful things to learn every day!
Anyway hoping for a solid game here.
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On January 20 2011 19:52 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 19:49 hauton wrote: I agree that it's hard, but not impossible, to tell that the Z opponent is not committed to Hydra Bust by looking at drone saturation/production.
But it IS difficult.
Personally, I would commit less to static cannon defense and more towards a proactive goon counter - even if the bust doesn't come, you have a sizable force with which to go on the offense with.
However, Stork went for a fairly greedy build with the Forge --> Nexus, so he does deserve a bit of blame. Stork was going for Sair/reaver of 1 gateway . No way can he counter even a small amount of hydras with 1 gate if he doesn't make cannons . Oh most def - he needs cannons. Even with all the goons in the world, the cannons are good for simcity.
What he didn't need to do is commit to 6+ cannons upon seeing 3 hydras.
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Kal somehow got away with that nexus first so here's to hoping he can take advantage of it
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On January 20 2011 19:53 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 19:49 StylishVODs wrote:On January 20 2011 19:47 flamewheel wrote:On January 20 2011 19:44 ArvickHero wrote:On January 20 2011 19:43 Severedevil wrote:On January 20 2011 19:41 flamewheel wrote: Wow Stork didn't cancel those zealots... The resources are refunded when the building dies. Canceling only applies to unfinished buildings. wtf are you serious I'm gonna have to test it out Yeah same o_O Never knew that. Canceling units will refund. If you don't cancel and building is lost u lose that cash. i just tested it out i had a gateway w/ 3 zealots queued up, attacked w/ 12 zealots, stopped all mining got a bunch of money back o_o
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This MSL could turn into all Zerg semis. Fuck, that would be so sad.
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On January 20 2011 19:52 darktreb wrote: Beautiful game by Zero.
It's hard being in both leagues ... just because Flash made it look doable doesn't mean it is. There's a reason why only two players have ever won both titles simultaneously and only one player (Flash) has done it when the two leagues were actually running at basically the same time.
Stork fans need to lower their expectations - I'd be thrilled with even just one title if I were one of them. He could very well walk away with an OSL silver and an MSL ro8 exit.
Nada won both leagues simultaneously. Curiously enough, both of Flash and Nada's dual wins were vs the same zerg in both finals( Chojja/Jaedong)
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wow great hardcountered so hard lol
wait huh why are the sairs so late.. i wasnt watching early game
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Kal builds a shitload of cannons in his main but none in his nat and all his zealots get cleaned up before the second sunken dies
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