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On January 09 2011 08:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2011 07:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:On January 09 2011 04:49 Barundar wrote: He fake claimed it? I don't know. You don't read a confirmed townies posts? I'm just wondering what the reasoning or logic is behind it. What is the proof that he fake-claimed it? Without giving any specifics, do you have a solid reason for believing he lied, as in actual evidence, not just a hunch? My guess is that he said so himself. lol.
3 veterans is pretty crazy. Really reduces the expected number of medics that we have.
esp with a framer, a godfather, and an alleged roleblocker, we should still have some blues though. KP tells us that there are 3 mafia left 99% sure.
Do we have any vigilantes? I wouldn't mind seeing any of Shockeyy/Pandain/orgolove hit tonight to clear things up. Esp. Shockeyy since the others are iffy.
If we have a DT, he better be in contact with Opz, so that we can get some information out. With... 3? 4? checks down, we'll have this game in the bag I think.
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IMO, the people that are really pushing for me are the people that are mafia, Barundar mostly and I'm sure Pandain, but "he's not in town".
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Day 5: Start
Incognito was frantically running around, wondering whether flamewheel was going to show up to post the day post. Figuring out that it was too late, Incognito quickly wrote up this uninspired story in hopes that he would not be struck by lightning by the great flamewheel.
tree.hugger the Townie is now dead. Mr. Wiggles the Townie is now dead.
It is now Day 5. Voting ends in 48 hours.
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Ohhhhh Well gg, I enjoyed my first game, I'll probably be back for more haha. Mafia really sucks at blue-sniping .
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Will town mislynch once again? Will INACTIVE be the game MVP?
Those are my questions.
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Pandain imo. He afks now when the gmae is almost done
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On January 09 2011 12:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Mafia really sucks at blue-sniping .
cuz im dead ;]
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List of currently alive players: 6. TheMango 7. Mr.Zergling 8. why 9. Jackal58
11. Barundar
15. ShoCkeyy
17. ilovejonn
19. Orgolove 20. Pandain
24. d3_crescentia
27. Soulfire
29. DarthThienAn 30. ~OpZ~
13 total, so 10 vs 3 imo -
Considering that no blues are dead still, I'd say Opz is pretty confirmed.
My mafia list from before still stands (minus dead): pandain, d3, shockeyy, jackal58
havent heard from TheMango in awhile o.o is he still in the game?
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On January 09 2011 13:56 DarthThienAn wrote: List of currently alive players: 6. TheMango 7. Mr.Zergling 8. why 9. Jackal58
11. Barundar
15. ShoCkeyy
17. ilovejonn
19. Orgolove 20. Pandain
24. d3_crescentia
27. Soulfire
29. DarthThienAn 30. ~OpZ~
13 total, so 10 vs 3 imo -
Considering that no blues are dead still, I'd say Opz is pretty confirmed.
My mafia list from before still stands (minus dead): pandain, d3, shockeyy, jackal58
havent heard from TheMango in awhile o.o is he still in the game?
Do we even have a DT? Now that there's so few left, it would be nice for the dt to message OpZ then, and tell him your results. And no, not you, Pandain. Unless you have a result that turned up red today?
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I'm still in the game, was away for all of yesterday night and today, will be active again going forward. Will need some time to reread last couple pages, going to sleep now.
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... wow guys. We're at 10-3. The DT, you don't have to reveal yourself - at least tell ~OpZ~ who you checked, so that we can narrow down the field...
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Also it's a good time to vote for Double Lynch, because it will be able to get the town the win because the next day will be a great time to know exactly who is Mafia.
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On January 10 2011 05:01 Mr.Zergling wrote: ##vote ShoCkeyy ##Vote Double Lynch
So why are you voting for me? You still haven't even given a reason.
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After calling out Mr.Zergling, I get this PM:
From: Pandain [ 2867 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: mmmm Date: 1/10/11 05:31 why you still voting for me? who do you think is suspicious?
Seems very suspicious to me.
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I'm still voting Pandain for the same reasons I made yesterday.
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Hello everyone. I'm back.
First off, I'd like to express my satisfaction to God that he made Brockett be inactive, as that helped us alot.
Second off, I'd like to emphasize a certain point I had made earlier.
You have to be active. In the course of 24 hours, only 5 posts had been made. I find this very disturbing to me. In fact, even though I have already admitted I fake claimed DT, I have been roleblocked for the third time in a row.
I can gurantee you all no one has been roleblocked besides me for the past 3 days.
Given the fact that Brockett is revealed to be mafia framer, we can now start to debate details relevant to him. For example, note how people have voted Brockett since Insanious started his crusade on him.
1.Insanious votes Brockett 2.LSB votes brockett 3.soulfire votes brockett 4.Why votes brockett 5.Jackal votes brockett 6.Bum votes LSB 7.Pandain votes LSB 8.GGQ votes Brockett 9.Wiggles votes Brockett.
At this point is is 8(brockett) to 10(annul).
Then Soulfire and Wiggles both unvote LSB and vote brockett.
This doesn't directly incriminate Soulfire, because again, I myself(stupidly) tried to say LSB should be lynched. But since the vote was so close, it must be accounted for.
Now, I am going to urge everyone to vote Soulfire because quite simply, he is hardcore lurking. I can't tell if he's town or mafia, but lurking CANNOT be accepted in this thread if town is going to win.
That and in addition to my previous analysis of Soulfire, I am going to vote Soulfire until he starts to actively contribute. Remember Soulfire, your not a rock. Everyone has thoughts.
On January 08 2011 09:39 Jackal58 wrote: I voted solely in the hopes of waking somebody up.
Ok here goes. Pandain. He needs to go. I have no idea if he is red or blue. At this point it really makes no difference.This game has reached an impasse that is due mostly to his claim of being role blocked. No other blues are coming forward with info due in large part I believe to mistrust of Pandain. If we lynch Pandain and he flips blue then red no longer knows who to role block. A DT without info is useless any ways. If our medics have been protecting him then they can move on to others and perhaps we can get a scum tell from who is still around after night. If he flips red then I commend him for playing a masterful game to this point. But he has to go. All aboard the Pandain Pain Train!!!!!! WOO WOO!!!!!! Chugachugachuga Chugachugachuga.
1.Why would blues be mistrustful because of my fake claim....? They're claiming to Opz, who is 100% confirmed. 2.I'm not blue. I've already said that. 3.If, as you think, I am blue, why would you think that a DT dying is good because then mafia have to roleblock someone else.
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So, obviously we need more activity as town. I think everyone should try to post an analysis of at least one person and rate how likely it is they think that person is mafia. If someone else has analyzed the person you want to analyze, then you should pick someone else. Then each person should pick one analysis that they disagree with and post why they disagree. This will hopefully help us organize what we know about each player and generate some good discussion.
I also want to hear everyone's opinions on pandain. I think his Day 1 panic back to LSB off of Brocket is pretty bad, but of course he also led the charge on his own godfather. I honestly don't know what to think.
Anyway, here is an analysis of ilovejohn. I chose him because he hasn't posted much of substance lately, so I was curious.
First off, I'd like to say that ilovejohn hasn't posted his opinions all that much, and so its hard to get a solid read on him.
On December 29 2010 13:02 ilovejonn wrote:No flaming. And orgolove sorry doesn't do anything. Town should think for themselves not just read someone elses analysis and be like oh he sounds right i'll vote for xxx. Come on, from the way LSB is putting himself out as a blue role willing to sacrifice himself to prove a day or 2 later that he is indeed blue, why would any mafia be so reckless? Read. Think. Vote. YOU all have control of who you can vote. Use your brains. Not even sure if this is allowed, but read this: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Antrax's_Guide_to_Being_a_Good_Townie
This quote isn't scummy at all. But it does express a philosophy of mafia, which is basically to think for yourself and not to let other people's reasons guide your thinking. This feels like an honest post and I think that ilovejohn actually believes it.
Now, let's see how ilovejohn has held to this philosophy so far. Keep in mind that you would expect him to post solid reasons for his votes.
On January 02 2011 10:26 ilovejonn wrote: Got home just now. Read RoL's analysis + few pages back. Personally do not like annul's defense. Will post more in the future, need rest now. = =
Two things about this. First of all, the fact that ilovejohn voted for annul makes it less likely that he is mafia. But he only voted for annul when it was too late, so it doesn't clear him completely. It is important is that he didn't post his reasons for voting, aside from the fact that he agreed with other people. It seems like it would be hard to fabricate reasons to vote as mafia.
On January 02 2011 12:31 ilovejonn wrote: I loved RoL's analysis.
Doesn't add anything other than calling attention to his vote for annul. If he was town, he wouldn't have needed to do this. Also, it goes away from his whole "think for yourself" philosophy.
On January 03 2011 15:15 ilovejonn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2011 13:59 Insanious wrote: Well... RoL posted a list of inactives, and Node was on the list I can let that slide...
Btw, just for me, can we pick at least 1 lynch target(or both...) from these people:
- Meapak_Ziphh - Brocket - Jackal58 I'd say Brocket, he's the only one that voted for you. My votes for double lynch are going to be on Mr. Zergling based on Barundar's analysis + Meapak as of now. I do hope we at least get 1 scum out of this double lynch. Gonna have to review a lot of posts to find other lurking targets.
Again, votes based solely on other people's opinions. But, of course, FoS's Brocket (but again, not a huge support either way since he never actually pushed him and brocket never really came close to being lynched).
These are really most of the things that ilovejohn has done this game. Honestly, I don't think the support for or against him is overwhelming. It is a bit weird that he specifically said that you shouldn't just be like "oh he sounds right I'll pick xxx" and then proceeds to do that for the rest of the game, but he could be a townie who is having trouble reading people. Another possibility is that he is mafia who is deathly afraid of having an anti-town opinion (thus the votes for annul and FoSing of brocket). Overall, if I had to rank him on a scale of 1-10 where 1 is confirmed townie and 10 is definitely mafia, I would give ilovejohn a 6 for slightly more likely to be mafia than not.
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