TL Mafia XXXV - Page 65

On January 05 2011 17:01 Brocket wrote:
Enter the OpZ.

It's true that paindain and barundar have been guiding the town, and the double lynch was pretty sub par (at least no blues were killed). Paindain's been sussing out the blues by Pm'ing everybody including myself.

What I'm trying to say is, if they really are mafia then they are currently causing damage and have enormous potential to win the game for mafia since only a couple of us are starting to point fingers at them.

This is what I think about when OpZ says that paindain and barundar are not confirmed. Which is true since we're not all DT's. I have to say they've been pretty damn good acting as townie. I still want to believe they're townie but just take what they say with a grain of salt.

On December 29 2010 10:24 Barundar wrote:
I understand you want to save yourself, but Brocket is the worst scapegoat you could possibly find. He is as scummy as Kenpachi when posting, and now he is even afk. Voting him is the same as abstaining, and really gets us nowhere.

On December 29 2010 10:16 TheMango wrote:


People voting Brocket. Please switch your vote to LSB! :p

On December 29 2010 10:31 TheMango wrote:
all I have to say is, if LSB is not mafia (which I still believe he is), then paindain + brocket may very well be. Paindain changed his mind/votes pretty fast when the attention was turned towards brocket (albeit he told me that he thinks mafia were trying to draw votes away from LSB).

On December 29 2010 10:27 Mr.Zergling wrote:


I fail at 12/24hr conversion.........my bad

Also PM from paindain:

why are you voting brockett
tell me here in your own words
why

On December 29 2010 10:30 annul wrote:
seriously the brocket vote has to be the dumbest idea possible at this stage in the game

why are we effectively giving up our day 1 vote? this is such a horrible idea it isnt even funny. what will killing brocket gain us? what information? none. none whatsoever.

taking down LSB however will give us a multitude of information.

On December 29 2010 10:48 Pandain wrote:


I vehemently disagree. FIrst off, LSB doesn't have a high chance of being blue, he's claimed everything from vigi to dt, and his supposed plan which no one knows what possibly could be he refuses to tell.

Furthormore now your saying that we're forced to either vote brockett or LSB, and previously you had been saying you were voting him because "he played differently."

Plus right now we can find out so much from LSB's flip. I know people usually say not to lynch for information but this is a special scenario. IT's all because LSB has claimed blue, and mafia know that, or that LSB is mafia, and they're trying to swing a bandwagon onto brockett to save him.

If LSB flips red- Great! We caught probably at least 3-4 scum who tried to swing the bandwagon onto Brockett, in addition to information from posting. Furthormore we caught a scum!
IF LSB flips blue LSB is not DT, so we don't have to worry about that. Why?
-Claimed very early to be blue, DT wouldn't have done that being most important role. Would've waited.
-Revealed pms where RoL said LSB might be DT, and hinted strongly because it was the only role that could fit the plan. Why would DT be so reckless, especially when he seemingly doesn't want to claim?

So we don't have to worry about losing a DT. So when, if blue, he would most vigi, then that's not even that bad of a loss. But most importantly mafia would be wanting him dead, since he's blue, and they know it. So people who voted for LSB should be looked upon with suspicion, myself included.

But again I would like to stress people that LSB is 99% not blue, that he is 99% red. And I urge you to read my analysis I made of him, and realize whats happening here.

Vote LSB. Stop the Bandwagon.

On December 29 2010 09:09 Pandain wrote:

Bad reason why. There are so many reasons people act differently. There can be RL issues, he's just trying something new, and just add the fact that its the holidays and he's probably on vacation.

Never should town lynch a total inactive. Town needs to be going after the lurkers, not the inactives. Not only do we gain nothing from Brockett's list, but add the fact that there are better people who are either showing signs of true scum or are seeming to contribute without actually contributing, unlike Brockett who isn't doing either. Scum usually want to seem to contribute.

Not to mention that just because he has a different posting style(which could just be because he's busy) is no reason to actually lynch someone when we have people like LSB who if you really don't think is scum perhaps then you should fully read my analysis .

LSB knows better than to lynch someone like this, I believe you know better than to lynch someone like this.

On January 02 2011 11:06 orgolove wrote:
Again, as the time draws near, I can't help but notice that, just as in my case, none has stood up for annul's defense. I would think the reds would try to cover for him at least a little bit....

On January 03 2011 14:40 orgolove wrote:
One of the my votes is still on Meapak based on his highly, highly suspicious voting pattern vs annul, which he still has not fully explained.

On January 04 2011 17:21 orgolove wrote:
Hey. I've been busy.

First, Meapak is almost 100% scum considering his voting patterns around annul.
~snip~

On January 05 2011 23:00 orgolove wrote:
Ugh. What pathetic idiocy. He acted so scummily as to leave us no choice, but turned out to be a town. Wow.

On January 07 2011 06:27 orgolove wrote: ~snip~How nice of you to put your thoughts in your list. Now we know who NOT to lynch. Hint: you contributed to four lynches so far, and you hit 2 blue and 2 green out of it. The only lynch you tried to dissuade people from - annul - we actually hit a red. Coincidence? I think not.

On January 08 2011 02:18 orgolove wrote:
Ugh. Again. I see that we have no counter bandwagon forming vs Seraph. The reds are not worried at all about him dying. I think it points towards seraph -not- being a red. Again - I think we are following Pandain's lead into lynching another green. Why are we still trusting this fool...
~snip~

On January 08 2011 13:53 orgolove wrote:
I fucking told you. -_-

On January 08 2011 17:15 Barundar wrote:
Most likely 12 v 3 tomorrow. This means we can afford a mislynch, so at this point if it can shut the discussion up we can kill our own unopposed DT claim.

It would be completely retarded ofcourse.

That Brocket is mafia means the people who switched to him day 1 are most likely town. These are: why, Mr.Zergling, Mr.Wiggles, Soulfire and Jackal58.

Orgolove is quickly popping up on my radar again. He was strictly opposing IRC, and so far not one person who has been on there has been mafia. Before annul got lynched, he posted:

He is actually the only one questioning the annul lynch.

He was one of the driving forces behind getting meapak lynched:


But when Meapak was innocent, orgolove posted:

Saying we had no choice. Would be nice for a mafia to remove doubts as to his own involvement in the lynch?


Let’s not forget who it was that actually did the only attempt of diverting the lynch...


Tries to blame Pandain for the Seraph lynch. Handy if you know he isn’t guilty, and want to lynch a DT, right? And afterwards:


Well gratz on being right on Seraph, but wrong on annul and Meapak.

On January 08 2011 18:29 orgolove wrote:


Just look at how Meapak acted. Right when annul hit the vote mark where his total was even with me, he immediately switched his vote from annul. It was 99% a red who first voted for each other, but then realized they might be the deciding vote so changed it when it became close.

The sealing deal was reports by people that mentioned he yelled at people in the stupid IRC to stop voting for annul.


Tell me, what else would any of us have thought if you had acted like this? I was 100% certain that he was red. And if I play another mafia game and see someone acting like that again, then I will have no qualms voting him as a red.

Can you all just stfu and vote seraph.

On January 08 2011 20:10 Barundar wrote:

You can't just lynch based on voting, the only ones knowing whos red are the mafia themselves. If it was only down to mistakes made by people, then the whole town would be mafia.

It's the same with lynching Pandain. He has made a ton of mistakes and his opinion has changed way too much just before the lynch. But that alone doesn't make him mafia. He has actively contributed, he has lynched the godfather and he has an unopposed DT claim - objectively speaking he can't be mafia. Try and look at it from an outstanders point of view. What is the evidence against him really?

This quote pretty much sums up what the town degenerated into yesterday:

If we aren't putting reason behind our choices, and only lynch to place blame for mistakes we won't win, simple as. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about the truth we can collectively discern from the events in the course of the game.

On January 07 2011 05:35 ~OpZ~ wrote:

Pandain fake claimed DT.

Pandain also is not posting. He is on though. He's pming me.

On January 09 2011 04:49 Barundar wrote:
He fake claimed it?

On January 09 2011 06:54 Mr.Zergling wrote:
Im all for getting rid of Shockeyy

On January 08 2011 22:11 Jackal58 wrote:
I'm still pushing for Pandain.

On January 08 2011 13:16 d3_crescentia wrote:
Wow.

Just... wow.

I'm starting to think that with the number of vets we had there are very few medics in this setup...

On January 09 2011 07:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:

I don't know. You don't read a confirmed townies posts?