EPTThat is what the world is made of. People doing things which don't get ratings. It's not going to shit and people aren't going crazy.
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
That is what the world is made of. People doing things which don't get ratings. It's not going to shit and people aren't going crazy. | ||
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
On December 20 2010 16:32 KurtistheTurtle wrote: Hm, yeah all I've seen in my community and others major cities around Norway are Christians standing in the streets yelling into microphones about Jesus this and Jesus that and trying to brainwash people, beggars, crippled drug addicts, noisy drunks who will occasionally threaten you over nothing and not to leave out the crazy criminal foreigners looking for trouble.Stop watching the news. Stop reading the news. Go drive around your community and find out all the stuff which goes on, all the relationships, families, inside jokes, coincidences, rituals, random acquaintances and all the little ticking, breathing moments of our lives. That is what the world is made of. People doing things which don't get ratings. It's not going to shit and people aren't going crazy. Machinery and construction everywhere, pollution, TRASH everywhere in the forest, in the streets and overflown trash disposals, cars everywhere some with loud bass music driving around in circles in the middle of the night, every town has those. Advertisements and consumerism everywhere, on the TV, on the radio in the gym's, on the busses, on the buildings, buy this, sale on that. People's main topic of concern in this special narrow minded (In the words of a doctor) ex-farmers country being the soap opera's, TV shows, local and celebrity gossiping *YAWN* boring people to be with who consume, gossip, some pray to god and then they all consume some more. But luckily for me my acquaintances are professionals twice my age who are aware of the world and are interesting enough to have 1-2 hour long intellectual conversations with. Not long ago there was a robbery and a two car chase going throughout the county here ending in a crash in my town on a sunday, police firing warning shots, hostage situation and just some of the crazy nuts shit that has happened here over the years. Hm, yeah my community has it's fair share of sanity. No thank you I'd stay to the crazy news and internet, it's more interesting and at least it's an escape from my local reality lol. | ||
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Thrill
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sikyon
Canada1045 Posts
On December 20 2010 07:05 Shockk wrote: So I'm reading the news and once again I'm baffled and sad at the same time. We have crisis upon crisis, everywhere. What else do you want the news to report on? Local puppy gets kicked? On December 20 2010 07:05 Shockk wrote: Financial. The lives of millions are influenced by few bankers juggling with money. People that have nothing to do with a bank on the other side of the world lose their job because said bank went bankrupt. And the financial sector seems to have learned nothing and is back to the old ways. The financial sector has enabled massive amounts of economic growth through facilitating investment in modern economies. Bankers serve a very important economic function by reducing the transaction costs of a free market, and they make money off of the inefficiencies still remaining. It can be volitle but our economic growth depends on this structure. On December 20 2010 07:05 Shockk wrote: Enviromental. Politicians on a broad front ignore every warning, celebrate meetings without results as success and don't care what happens to the world we, our children and grandchildren have to inhabit unless they can utilize it for votes. And they're pretty much the only ones that could do something about it. If people really cared about the environment then they would vote politicians into and out of office on the basis of those facts. The basic truth is that most people are unwilling to make the sacrifices needed currently. We are seeing growing amounts of investment in green energies, however, which may eventually cause the market to replace fundamentally harmful (and ever more expensive) sources of fuel with renewable sources on the basis of economics alone. On December 20 2010 07:05 Shockk wrote: Diplomatical. Not only do we have wars all over the world, but politicians everywhere behave as if they're some lords or caste nobles from the 1800s. We live in the 21st century, yet diplomatic relations and actions could well come out of a history book with all the bickering, insults and petty issues going on. We have nations on our planet that can barely feed and educate their inhabitants, but could nuke half our planet with their arsenals. Why is the 21st century so special? Are you from the 19th century and thought that human nature would have fundamentally changed in 200 years? Nations still fight for what is best for their people, that's the duty of a government. To protect their citizens as best they know how. When you don't have a large technology base or a ton of natural resources it is very hard to feed your people indeed, you can't make something out of nothing (infact in order to do so you need those BANKS that you seem to hate) but you figure that civil war isn't going to magically make food appear everywhere, and being invaded isn't going to help either. On December 20 2010 07:05 Shockk wrote: Religious. I somehow expected religion to have become an exclusively spiritual thing in our time, but it's worse than ever. Islamistic terrorists making all peaceful muslims look bad. Fundamental christians spreading racism, violence and stupidity (creationism). Jews still being blamed for their belief by people mindlessly repeating phrases that are hundreds of years old. And hundreds of years ago we had REAL mass killings based on religions. It seems to me religion is doing just fine for people. You're looking more at segments of the population who are more or less inherently crazy than through any direct fault of the religions themselves. On December 20 2010 07:05 Shockk wrote: General. 21st century, but half the world lives in poverty. Military spending outwheighs funding for science, education or help for poorer nations everywhere. Freedom is sacrificed for "security" in so many countries and places, as if 1984 was indeed used as a manual and not as a warning. Organisations like Wikileaks (all controversy about Assange aside) are critized and their support is pulled, even though it's one of the best things to happen in times of growing paranoia, surveillance and secrecy. Mainstream media has become the twisted parody it was often portrayed as in movies about "the future" from 20 or 30 years ago. Again, you seem to have some sort of fascination with the number 21. Nothing special. Military spending protects the existing lifestyles of people. Poor people are left to prove that they are worthwhile to save or can pull themselves up... at least they arn't being enslaved or invaded en masse by more developed nations (corporations are a different story). Freedom has always been sacrificed for security, both are guaranteed under most constitutions and the important thing is striking a balance. | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
On December 21 2010 00:55 sikyon wrote: The financial sector has enabled massive amounts of economic growth through facilitating investment in modern economies. Bankers serve a very important economic function by reducing the transaction costs of a free market, and they make money off of the inefficiencies still remaining. It can be volitle but our economic growth depends on this structure. Lol. And then what? When does it come to end? Where does your all consuming most important growth get us? Can we feed everybody? While we got cell phones, Internet, amazon...., what did the people in Liberia get? Oh civil war in the 80s/90s. So, fuck them. That's not my fault. Sierra Leone? Haiti? Fuck them niggers, who cares rofl. Damn I want a new car fueled with Biodiesel, so let's get that fucking rain forest chopped down to make place for fields with rapeseed! First, let's consume all the oil and drive the 500 meters to the next baker with a tank! What, them damn niggers at the ass end of the world don't even have money to buy medicine? lol poor bastards. Fuck them If people really cared about the environment then they would vote politicians into and out of office on the basis of those facts. The basic truth is that most people are unwilling to make the sacrifices needed currently. We are seeing growing amounts of investment in green energies, however, which may eventually cause the market to replace fundamentally harmful (and ever more expensive) sources of fuel with renewable sources on the basis of economics alone. Excellent attitude! Oh what, 20% of the world consume 80% of its ressources? Yeah well, so? Oh what, the ones who will suffer most from a climate change are the ones who don't have money for counter measures? Fuck them. If they don't make enough money to secure their rice production, pffff. Not my fault? Damn lazy bastards Why is the 21st century so special? Are you from the 19th century and thought that human nature would have fundamentally changed in 200 years? Eh, yes? Who could imagine a war in central europe today? Probably no one. The last time that happened was 60 years ago. And hundreds of years ago we had REAL mass killings based on religions. It seems to me religion is doing just fine for people. You're looking more at segments of the population who are more or less inherently crazy than through any direct fault of the religions themselves. His point was that humanity as a whole should have advanced to a point where believe doesn't mean that people have to die for it. And he is right. Hopefully the Islam will undergo an age of enlightenment soon. Again, you seem to have some sort of fascination with the number 21. Nothing special. Military spending protects the existing lifestyles of people. Yes, especially those who are involved in the military sector. Tell me, what exactly did the average US American citizin gain when the Nuclear Bunker Buster was researched at the beginning of the last decade? | ||
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sikyon
Canada1045 Posts
On December 21 2010 01:49 Djin)ftw( wrote: Lol. And then what? When does it come to end? Where does your all consuming most important growth get us? Can we feed everybody? While we got cell phones, Internet, amazon...., what did the people in Liberia get? Oh civil war in the 80s/90s. So, fuck them. That's not my fault. Sierra Leone? Haiti? Fuck them niggers, who cares rofl. Damn I want a new car fueled with Biodiesel, so let's get that fucking rain forest chopped down to make place for fields with rapeseed! First, let's consume all the oil and drive the 500 meters to the next baker with a tank! What, them damn niggers at the ass end of the world don't even have money to buy medicine? lol poor bastards. Fuck them The world is not a happy place where all people are equal. Rights and freedoms are bought and sold at the end of a your hands/rock/spear/arrow/sword/gun. I care about me, my family, my neighbors, my community, my country, and then the rest of the people who have little impact on myself. On December 21 2010 01:49 Djin)ftw( wrote: Excellent attitude! Oh what, 20% of the world consume 80% of its ressources? Yeah well, so? Oh what, the ones who will suffer most from a climate change are the ones who don't have money for counter measures? Fuck them. If they don't make enough money to secure their rice production, pffff. Not my fault? Damn lazy bastards They arn't lazy, they just haven't secured economic or technological capital in ages past, and are reaping what their ancestors sowed. On December 21 2010 01:49 Djin)ftw( wrote: Eh, yes? Who could imagine a war in central europe today? Probably no one. The last time that happened was 60 years ago. Your point? On December 21 2010 01:49 Djin)ftw( wrote: His point was that humanity as a whole should have advanced to a point where believe doesn't mean that people have to die for it. And he is right. Hopefully the Islam will undergo an age of enlightenment soon. Why should it have advanced to that point by today. I could see it advancing to that point in a few hundred years but just because you want something and think it's right doesn't mean other people agree with you. On December 21 2010 01:49 Djin)ftw( wrote: Yes, especially those who are involved in the military sector. Tell me, what exactly did the average US American citizin gain when the Nuclear Bunker Buster was researched at the beginning of the last decade? The average US citizen gained an enhanced form of nuclear deterrence against possible soviet attack. Just because it was never used doesn't mean it was useless. And as to more recent research, it is in anticipation of future nuclear standoffs. This way we might be able to have less nukes but the same combat power. | ||
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exeexe
Denmark937 Posts
So here it goes, short and directly: I blame democracy... Take it or leave it , i dont care... | ||
alpskomleko
Slovenia950 Posts
On December 20 2010 07:05 Shockk wrote: But nowadays, I ignore news whenever I can, I don't want to change anything anymore because I'm convinced that I won't be able to contribute to anything in the first place. And my ambitious and naive plans from my childhood and teen years have made room for and attitude that's basically just "live my life, enjoy myself, see that children I may have are educated well, and screw all the rest". This. This, I am afraid, is what keeps the world spinning in its creaking old axis from generation to generation. It falls to those able to hold on to their ideals, and those not encumbered by religious or otherwise ideologically welded-on shackles, to fight the good fight, for what it is worth. | ||
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duckett
United States589 Posts
“But effectiveness isn’t what matters to them. What matters to them is raging against the machine for the sake of rage itself. Their message is simple: everything sucks, the earth is doomed, all cops are brutal, all soldiers are baby-killers, all people who work for corporations are evil, blah, blah, blah, right on down the line. It’s as if much of the left has become co-dependent with despondency, addicted to its own isolation, and enamored of its moral purity and unwillingness to work with mere liberals. In the name of ideological asceticism, they spurn the hard work of movement building and inspiring others to join the struggle, snicker at those foolish enough to not understand or appreciate their superior philosophical constructs, and then act shocked when their movements and groups accomplish exactly nothing. But honestly, who wants to join a movement filled with people who look down on you as a sucker?” | ||
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LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
Of course bad stuff exists. Why is this baffling or something saddening? Good stuff exists too. I'm only puzzled that you only look at all "negative" news and not all the positive news. Here's what I saw popping on CNN.com [inb4"liberalhaxomgbias" - political leaning has no relevance for this point] on the front page: POSITIVE - About the eclipse, a wonder of nature: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/20/strangers-in-the-night-lunar-eclipse-solstice-meet-again/?hpt=C1 POSITIVE - Koreans tensions "eased significantly" http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/20/blitzer-korean-tensions-eased-significantly/?hpt=T2 POSITIVE/NEUTRAL - death penalty decreasing [while the merits of the death penalty is controversial, I wouldn't call the death penalty decreasing a "crisis"] http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/21/us.death.penalty/index.html?hpt=T2 NEUTRAL - net neutrality [oh hey, irony  ]http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/12/21/fcc.net.neutrality/index.html?hpt=T2 NEGATIVE - loose nuclear material http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/20/wikileaks.loose.nukes/index.html?hpt=T2 NEGATIVE - toyota recalls http://www.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/12/20/toyota.recall.penalties/index.html?hpt=T2 From what I see, it's definitely a balance of good and bad. Recessions have always existed, conflict is inevitable in this wide world and the imperfection of political institutions per the nature of human history. But likewise inevitable is the peaceful constructions of artists, innovators, joyful technology, peaceful diplomacy. Oh, and 'diplomatical' isn't a word . | ||
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beg
991 Posts
out of a personal perspective.. i think we have to discover "togetherness". working and living together globally. not competing against each other. at the moment each country is trying to survive on its own, having to be better than other countries, no matter what the price. instead of competing, why haven't we faced global challenges like producing enough renewable energy for everyone in the world? i get fancy ideas like setting up solar panels all over the deserts and making this a "everyone works together" thing, you know? and all scientists would focus on stuff like that, instead of creating better materials in order to sell them, etc etc etc... i hope you get the idea  but this stage of humanity seems to be normal and "ok". there's nothing one can do but grow out of it. i believe it's possible! | ||
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