nowadays its like lol "Bloodbraid cascade into blightning" lol
just a lil random thing i felt like putting out there
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
nowadays its like lol "Bloodbraid cascade into blightning" lol just a lil random thing i felt like putting out there | ||
Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On November 18 2010 14:17 snorlax wrote: all the pro magic players have their own forum that is very secretive. also starcity games forum seems pretty meh, I mean vampires as a "deck to beat" for standard, I know I know it exists but Id rather play WW Quest then vampires. the starcitygames forum is pretty much dead. no one really posts at all so the vampires thread from last year. that being said i actually think the newer vampires list is more consistent than WW quest(not very hard to do). i sleeved it up and did some playtesting and there are alot of cool hidden synergies. and the deck is surprisingly hard to play for an aggro deck. definitely not just puke out guys and turn them sideways. | ||
Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On November 19 2010 04:15 Orpheos wrote: Show nested quote + On November 18 2010 14:17 snorlax wrote: all the pro magic players have their own forum that is very secretive. also starcity games forum seems pretty meh, I mean vampires as a "deck to beat" for standard, I know I know it exists but Id rather play WW Quest then vampires. the starcitygames forum is pretty much dead. no one really posts at all so the vampires thread from last year. that being said i actually think the newer vampires list is more consistent than WW quest(not very hard to do). i sleeved it up and did some playtesting and there are alot of cool hidden synergies. and the deck is surprisingly hard to play for an aggro deck. definitely not just puke out guys and turn them sideways. which list are you using? the utility blades one or the pulse tracker one? | ||
snorlax
United States755 Posts
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On November 19 2010 10:42 Judicator wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2010 04:15 Orpheos wrote: On November 18 2010 14:17 snorlax wrote: all the pro magic players have their own forum that is very secretive. also starcity games forum seems pretty meh, I mean vampires as a "deck to beat" for standard, I know I know it exists but Id rather play WW Quest then vampires. the starcitygames forum is pretty much dead. no one really posts at all so the vampires thread from last year. that being said i actually think the newer vampires list is more consistent than WW quest(not very hard to do). i sleeved it up and did some playtesting and there are alot of cool hidden synergies. and the deck is surprisingly hard to play for an aggro deck. definitely not just puke out guys and turn them sideways. which list are you using? the utility blades one or the pulse tracker one? both? its the one that top4'd SCG boston http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=35526 its not tier one, but if your meta isnt good with dealing with swarm aggro decks, it has good chances. lots of reach with kalastria highborn. although i would really like bloodthrone vamp to have flying >_< | ||
Judicator
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let's say a card says "when a goblin comes into play, you gain a thousand life" and as it were, the card that says that is a goblin creature so, when you play this creature, would you gain 1000 life? or does it only count for future goblin creatures played? | ||
prodiG
Canada2016 Posts
On November 20 2010 07:52 travis wrote: quick and easy mtg question let's say a card says "when a goblin comes into play, you gain a thousand life" and as it were, the card that says that is a goblin creature so, when you play this creature, would you gain 1000 life? or does it only count for future goblin creatures played? the "when a" clause makes it a triggered ability. triggered abilities can only be put on the stack when the permanent is in play unless it says otherwise (for example, cards with triggered abilities that trigger in the graveyard) aka no, you'd have to play another goblin first | ||
UniversalSnip
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On November 20 2010 08:02 prodiG wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2010 07:52 travis wrote: quick and easy mtg question let's say a card says "when a goblin comes into play, you gain a thousand life" and as it were, the card that says that is a goblin creature so, when you play this creature, would you gain 1000 life? or does it only count for future goblin creatures played? the "when a" clause makes it a triggered ability. triggered abilities can only be put on the stack when the permanent is in play unless it says otherwise (for example, cards with triggered abilities that trigger in the graveyard) aka no, you'd have to play another goblin first Incorrect. Think about what you're saying, if it worked that way everything that says "when this comes into play, bounce target x" or whatever wouldn't work. You gain 1000 life, it works. however a modern card would never be templated that way as they recognize the potential confusion arising from it. Try checking oracle wording for the one you're curious about. | ||
BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
I don't know the exact reasons why as far as rulings are concerned, not sure, but most of the interactions that you can do support this, same reason why valakut doesn't work when you just play a 5th mountain, but if you bring a 5th and 6th mountain into play at the same time you get 2 triggers. | ||
UniversalSnip
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- Goblin resolves - Goblin enters the battlefield - Now play could resume, so the game does a quick check to make sure everything that should be happening is. It sees that you have an ability that gains you 1000 life whenever a goblin enters play, and that a goblin entered play since the last time it checked, so it creates a triggered ability to gain 1000 life and you put it on the stack. | ||
Deleted User 3420
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http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/magic_single_card.asp?cn=All Is Dust&sn=Rise of the Eldrazi | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 20 2010 08:08 UniversalSnip wrote: however a modern card would never be templated that way as they recognize the potential confusion arising from it. Try checking oracle wording for the one you're curious about. This. All modern cards and the retroactive oracle text for past cards use one of the following wordings to avoid confusion: "Whenever another <type> enters the battlefield..." or "Whenever <this> or another <type> enters the battlefield..." The best way to confirm which one the card in question is meant to be is to check the current oracle text. | ||
Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
It's the swedish magic site but you should be able to see all the cards just fine: http://www.svenskamagic.com/deckbox/index.php?ID=69121&format=Allt&kategori=Allt | ||
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http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/magic_single_card.asp?cn=Thief of Hope | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 20 2010 10:23 travis wrote: this was actually the card that made me ask http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/magic_single_card.asp?cn=Thief of Hope That trigger is entirely different. It triggers on a Spirit or Arcane spell being *played*, not on coming into play (part of the reason that WotC now words "comes into play" as "enters the battlefield" is so that "x is played" triggers and "x comes into play" triggers don't get confused, as they are here). In that case, it does not trigger it's own ability. | ||
Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
Oh and about forums btw, imo mtg Salvation is the best magic forum I've found so far, really active forum. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 20 2010 10:28 Zoler wrote: Oh and about forums btw, imo mtg Salvation is the best magic forum I've found so far, really active forum. As a community, MTGSalvation is perfectly fine. It's just that it's not really the best place to go for info with regard to deckbuilding/competitive help because of how widely the player skill can vary. | ||
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