Insane Mafia - Page 145

On November 05 2010 01:01 Glasse wrote:


k, i won't send anything next night

On November 05 2010 01:25 CubEdIn wrote:


That would be interesting, but make sure you don't get modkilled or anything for not playing your role.

On November 05 2010 02:30 CubEdIn wrote:
No I meant, just re-read your role so it doesn't say something like "You have to" instead of "you can". Or you could just ask Artanis.

I got a lot of ideas going on at the moment, but 90% of them revolve around whether or not Coagulation flips red.

On October 29 2010 07:47 Hyperbola wrote:
Citizens of Insania,

I would like to announce my candidacy for mayor. In light of recent events, most importantly the town's development of many new powers, a new system of government must emerge to quell the chaos that is this town. It has come to our attention that the local mafia has begun to exploit their new abilities and are now aiming for total control of this fine community. In order to successfully repel them, a properly organized inner circle of supertownies must be established. This new circle needs leadership and commitment, and I believe I am the man for the job.

Vote for Order! Vote Hyperbola!

On October 29 2010 09:45 Hyperbola wrote:

An interesting strategy. You call me out on my magnificent speech and then proceed to say almost nothing yourself. Then you direct attention away from yourself and give the illusion of trying to help town by saying random things about the game. I don't think Cube was being serious when he posted that, but I however, was.
I am very adept at organization and strategic play. Although I may have not been in as many mafia games and tend to stay quiet, I can still manage a team and have done so in games I was mafia in. The same skills can apply to town if we are able to sort out who's who and create a legitimate town circle. Furthermore, I am very adept at sorting out what's what's legitimate and what's bullshit. Unless there are some specific roles which may overcome my keen eye, I can guarantee you that there will be NO leaks in the town circle if I am voted mayor.
As for the issue of whether I am mafia or not... you can be damn well sure that the first person to announce their candidacy for mayor as I did had better be really fucking good at defending themselves from clues if they're mafia. Other than that fact, I cannot guarantee anything. But that is what most elections are: a leap of faith.

On October 29 2010 10:24 Hyperbola wrote:
All this setback does is simply show that many things can technically be exploited in this game, with the influx of new abilities I believe a great strategy can be devised if the great minds of this game work together under one leader.
I am still running for mayor. A vote for Hyperbola is a vote for a brighter future for us all.

On October 29 2010 11:06 Hyperbola wrote:
What I am interested in is how forgetforeverine is going to factor into the game. Is it simply a role playing element and can a specific role can utilize it? Or is it just a way of having people "forget" about other mafia games... in which case we can't make arguments based on past actions.

On October 30 2010 09:40 Hyperbola wrote:
It's really pointless for me to vote for myself at this point so I guess I'll vote for Pandain. The other two prime candidates are all discussing secret societies and whatnot, and even though I'm all for those types of roles, I believe the mayor should really be a figurehead for the whole town.
1. It would be really difficult, and not to mention disadvantageous, for the mayor to prove they are a free mason or something along those lines
2. The mayor keeps the rest of the town out of the loop (because there wouldn't be a way to transfer secret data) and therefore causes confusion which can lead to unwarranted bandwagoning.
3. If the mayor dies, how will the circle prove itself to town afterward? After losing all leadership, the town will flop and scum will have it's way with the remains.
And as for Pandain, I have seen his play style from the previous game and think he would make a good mayor. If he turns out to be mafia, and unless he has flawlessly acted out the role, people would notice and he'd be gone in a blink of an eye.

On November 01 2010 01:51 Hyperbola wrote:

Ok so these are the aspects of his role (if he's telling the truth):
1. avoid a lynch
2. no talking
So I'm thinking his role is the ability to leave town, turn invisible, or hide in the closet for a night. I don't know why he wouldn't role claim but, more importantly, this doesn't seem like a scum-favored role. Think about it: why would scum leave town? Is the mob getting too hot for him? This would seem almost detrimental because if someone has a valid case against him, he can't argue it and just delays the inevitable 1 turn. I think the role is intended to just dodge night actions and simply dodges lynches and forbids speaking as a side effect. So in short, I think youngminii is innocent to some extent... for now.

On November 01 2010 07:29 Hyperbola wrote:
Lexpar has successfully derailed the thread for like 3/4 of a page, lol. Not that we're really doing anything intense right now. Regarding youngminii, I don't think we really need to get to the bottom of the whole situation just yet as Coagulation stated. I think we should wait till day, analyze the day post and the deaths, and then resume "getting to the bottom of things". But as other people have said before me, role claiming is nothing but detrimental unless it's done right. Do not be like Aeres guys (no offense), his role claim was rash and could put him and others in danger.

On November 01 2010 09:54 Hyperbola wrote:
Ok let's not fish for the elder. Why do the mafia's work for them? If he want's to be known he'll say it in the thread.

Regarding Node: His role is really easy to fake. A mafia knows exactly who's going to die and he probably has a role that decided who to kill during the day or is just completely faking it. The reason I think this is because he explicitly asked for medic protection on night 1 and 3 people are now infected. I am assuming that Murrayitis starts off with only 1 host because otherwise it would take very little time to infect half of the town's population. I can't really prove anything right now but Node is now quite suspicious in my eyes.

On November 01 2010 09:56 Hyperbola wrote:

You do realize it would actually be a smart move for mafia to roleblock DrH? This can really flip either way at this point.

On November 02 2010 08:42 Hyperbola wrote:
I honestly do not know who to vote for right now. Nothing seems solid. I'm gonna vote for someone random so I don't get modkilled.

On November 04 2010 08:41 Hyperbola wrote:

I don't think this is the case. Otherwise Glasse would have said something.
Anyone else thinks it's kinda weird that DCLXVI would have a "leave town role" like Aeres and potentially youngminii? Either that or Node is BSing us.

On November 05 2010 03:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Here's everyone who hasn't voted yet afaik:
Lexpar
Hyperbola
Amber[LighT]
Beneather
Coagulation

Hyperbola has been SUPER inactive this game, but isn't that off considering he ran for mayor on the basis of his great analysis and being a good player (rather than his role):





A hostile defense and further claims that he is a good scumhunter with a keen eye. No leaks in the town circle? What town circle, considering as far as we know you can't PM? Odd post.

He's called out on that later and then claims town could probably talk on irc but Artanis tells him nope.





what is forgetforeverine? i don't remember anyone saying anything about this...



Parrots the argument of distrust Coagulation was using that "Fishball is untrustworthy because he operates in secret circles/town circle. But, hyperbola, THE ENTIRE BASIS OF YOUR CAMPAIGN WAS ON CREATING A TOWN CIRCLE.

Back to the "Vote pandain cause he's bad and we can tell if hes mafia ez" argument that coagulation used



bit of a defense for youngminii. Coagulation attacked youngminii really hard. This doesn't clear hyperbola though, there are reasons why mafia might attack another mafia but the way coagulation did it was strangely intense. If Coagulation somehow flips blue I'd SERIOUSLY consider hyperbola.













Hyperbola has been mostly pretty inactive and a lot of his posts are just saying things the town had already really been talking about.

I figured a mafia would drop out of the race when Mayor was revealed to be vulnerable to rolechecks and the way with which hyperbola ran his campaign fits this profile. I'd consider him as a second lynch tomorrow. A very strong target if coag flips blue imo

On November 05 2010 05:27 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Players should get a ban for saying "I lost interest" when a game is clearly interesting to follow lol.

On November 05 2010 05:30 Infundibulum wrote:


Why ban when you can lynch?

On October 30 2010 03:12 Nemesis wrote:

My bad, it seems that I misunderstood the mayor role. I thought they get to lynch one extra person.

On November 05 2010 05:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I agree.

I think DC should put his bombs on coag/nemesis for that reason.

I also think we should vig hit DC rather than lynch him. Better to waste a vig hit than a lynch imo

On November 05 2010 05:43 L wrote:
Re: Nemesis.

This is the portion during which you get apologetic.


Lol, I made a misunderstanding early in the game and make on post that i made a mistake and that makes me apologetic early on in the game. You are one funny man.

After repeated oneliners clarifying rules to other players with no submissions of your own, you start trying to produce real content around the 300 post mark. You then realize your arguments are pretty ridiculous and back off quickly.
Can you at least please point that out. Looking at around the 300 post, my posts are about clarifying people's candidacy for mayor and I was asking them how they can disprove my doubts. I wasn't really arguing.

Its not super incriminating, but its odd that someone who's staring at the rules wouldn't know that the mayor gets an extra vote and not an extra lynch.
I am pretty new to mafia(although I've played it irl), so I don't exactly know all the roles and what they do, which is why I was asking about the rules and stuff. This is my second game here and this game has a different format than last game.


Around the 2k post mark you shift back to one liners and ask other people to do analysis on certain players. You say you're too lazy to do it yourself.
I only asked an analysis on misder as far as I remember, how does that turn into "players"?

You also trip yourself up when you state that you're all for lynching inactives to get them to post, but then you turn around immediately and say that LAL makes no sense because it targets liars rather than scum. Why use one heuristic over the other? You never really make the argument. And that's not just a single point; there are multiple posts of yours on this front.
I never made the argument, because no one asked me too. Those were during different phases of the game. I had forgotten about inactives as most of them have died already at that point. Inactives don't contribute to the game at all if they are townies. It also allows for a place for mafia to hide, and we have no way of knowing which is mafia and which is not.

Lying on the other hand can be beneficial to town if used correctly, and if someone is caught in a lie, you just have to read the intention of the lie to determine whether that lie was supposed to benefit the townie or mafia. Aeres' lie was clearly meant to benefit the town even if it was dumb which was why I was against lynching him.

Does that answer your question?

The 2200 series of posts are pretty much a rehash. Against LAL, targetting inactives and clearing up rules questions. Mostly in one liners. In the 2300 section, he pushes for cube to prot DC, which is reasonable regardless of his alignment.

The 2500 are a bit more interesting. There's a focus on M-rus and asking pandain to confirm himself + questions about double lynches. This is prior to pandain having a bus driven at him. The rest of the posts are literally one liners regarding inactives or in another instance just a quote from DrH. There's a LOT of chaff in these posts.
Look above. Anything suspicious about asking how the game works?

Nemesis opens into the 2600 section by stating that he'll look bad if pandain flips red. There's more one liners including a one liner rebuke of my first post, then s'more another question for pandain, regarding how he can confirm himself.

Overall Nemesis's concrete actions aren't unreasonable after the halfway point during his posts. But there's a problem: he doesn't really do much even when he is posting. There's a lot (a LOT) of one-two line posts that parrot other players, and the majority of his posting seems to be a combination of talking about the rules, and lightly incriminating people who are unlikely to retaliate.
I am just observing for now. I am just "lightly" incriminating people for now as I haven't decided to lynch them. If I decide to lynch them, then I'll be more aggresive. That's just my play style.

Anyways, Take a skim through his posts and tell me if you agree.