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I can see being angry if he posted this under the SC2 General forum, but it's a god damned blog. I'm not saying it hasn't been annoying at times to see some of incontrol's posts, but I'm sure as some people have read MY posts they've gotten annoyed with ME. I'm a sub-1k poster, he's a 20k+ poster, he has some fuckin rights. I'm not the kind who would want to get lessons, but for people who would its going to be nice to have a place to find coaches.
To the douche above saying they're just taking advantage of the coaches. Do you know the fees? Do you know what you're talking about? Are you full of shit? How you're dodging a ban is beyond me.
The way I see it working is that coaches will have to pay either a small monthly fee (like twenty bucks which is for some around an hour of coaching time) or will pay a fee per coaching session (2 dollars for every lesson found on the site).
I don't see this as a very profitable venture for Incontrol, so it has to be for the love of the sport. And who the fuck says he can't turn a little bit of profit while doing it... I don't see any of you lazy haters doing anything. That's all I fuckin' see from the low post users on this site, a bunch of hate. Like you came here from fuckin Halo3 or somethin'. Respect the people around you and keep your mouth shut or leave this community filled with what I see as one of the last nice, respectable communities left in gaming.
I'm probably going to need to edit this for grammar and editing
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Gosucoaching.com has cut out the middle-man aspect and returned to simplicity.
But it's a bit surprising it's not owned by coaches / team EG as a whole so more money could be going back to the community.
Did you (coaches) just acknowledge that there are issues you have problems dealing with so you need someone experienced with it to do it?
Is Mr. Pfister's role as an owner to deal with everything other than coaching (like scheduling) to make sure the site runs smoothly?
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iNcontroL
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scheduling as said in the OP and numerous times in this thread will be handled by the coaches.
The new owner is handling the business of running a site. Pretty self explanatory. We aren't "losing" money because we don't own it. The idea is win / win for everyone. We coach, he manages, students learn... no need to complicate that.
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Sorry I should of read OP again before posting >_<
GL HF, I wish you no problems in the future.
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iNcontroL
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Ty for the kind words sir <3
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so if a potential coach wanted to be posted there then he would pay gosucoaching a fee ? Interesting concept; I like
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On October 02 2010 05:32 nEAnS wrote:
So I dont understand something; is this the craigslist of starcraft coaching?
Not at all, Craigslist only offers a medium for buyers and sellers connect.
Gosucoaching is the same resource it was before that sources a pool of qualified coaches that gosucoaching interviews, evaluates and keeps track of. Interested students contact gosucoaching.com, and we then connect that student with an appropriate coach, evaluating both the student's experience and that the request for service is followed up on.
ESSENTIALLY, it's the same service gosucoaching.com provided before, only the money no longer goes through gosucoaching.com, ensuring the credibility of the site and the protection of both the coaches and the students.
OCsurfeR
Director of Community Relations - Gosucoaching.com
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On October 02 2010 05:54 fnaticAugury wrote:
You should probably go into a lot more detail regarding how you're planning on solving the previous problem. How is GosuCoaching going to take responsibility for the integrity of their coaches?
Nothing against InControl or anyone else involved, but this seems like the exact same thing that was going on before.
You have a bunch of BW players that had success in a very small field of players that are trying to abuse their TL relationship and notoriety to take advantage of new Sc2 players.
Most players are going to benefit from the coaching received, so there was nothing originally wrong with the plan. Bringing it back is a terrible idea though and reflects poorly on everyone involved. You messed up terribly the last time, nothing has changed, so I don't see why you're trying to bring back a very similar business plan.
You guys obviously provide a valuable and greatly appreciated service to the community with your events, but it's starting to go too far.
The quality of our coaches is actually our highest priority. After all, our coaching staff is what makes gosucoaching.com what it is. We have an interview process in place to ensure that we're not only recruiting coaches who have the skillset and experience, but who are natively good at coaching. All new coaches will have to go through an evaluation session with a student, and we will provide surveys to all students on an ongoing basis to ensure coaches don't skip out on sessions, and that the sessions they provide are considered of value to the students. This will allow us not only to work with coaches who may be struggling, but also to identify coaches who are excellent resources.
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BTW, since I replied to some of your posts but didn't introduce myself, let me now. My callsign is OCsurfeR, and I'm the Director of Community Relations for Gosucoaching.com
Should you have any questions about the site you'd like answered, feel free to PM me.
Thanks for all the support so far,
OCsurfeR
Director of Community Relations - Gosucoaching.com
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Any chance you could make public how you evaluate coaches? What do they need to be able to do, and how should they do it, etc.
It's not that hard to evaluate the skill of coaches (albiet not that easy in many cases) but it is tricky to tell how good they are at coaching.
edit: btw if you want me to let prospective coaches coach me and then report on how the experience was, I'll do that! :p
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@ Micronesia,
I don't think we'll be making the specifics to how we evaluate coaches public, but know that it will be a combination of feedback we get from students along with our own criterion.
Just so you know, I've in my professional career done a lot of service training and even technical "train the trainer" activities, as has the new owner, and we've also received a lot of coaching in SC2 ourselves, so we feel our basis for determining what makes a good coach is very solid. We will continue to enhance that process as time goes by.
If that fails, we'll just use Battlenet's matchmaking algorhithm to match coaches and students /grin
I'll PM you about your request.
OCsurfeR
Director of Community Relations - Gosucoaching.com
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Glad to see the site is back up 
I was starting to get interested in the concept of lessons, but kinda let things slide, then the site went down.
Not sure why everyone's getting pissy about this blog.
1) It's a blog
2) iNcontroL is one of the most respected members on the site, regardless of his moderator (I like the term banling  ) status.
3) Who's blog are you more likely to read: iNcontroL's or one of the other coaches? While they all are respectable members of the community, iNcontroL has pull to his name. The fact that he's a moderator shouldn't force him to limit that.
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