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konadora
Singapore66064 Posts
Source: - Fomos
Main reason by WeMade was cited as saying that go.go was fine with the contract, but his parents wanted go.go to receive a salary that was equivalent to MBCGame's Light or WeMade FOX's Mind. In addition to that, with Mind and NaDa in WeMade FOX, it was uncertain whether go.go can become the team's ace Terran player, and along with the burden of playing in a new team, the negotiations failed in the end.
Go.go now has 4 days (28th to 31st) to negotiate with Hite and to get back into his team. If he succeeds in getting back into his team, he can play as normal but should be fail to do so, he will have to become a semi-pro for a year and wait for the next year's FA season.
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Lol, parents foil FA again.
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Why are Korean parents so demanding? It's ridiculous, just let their kids do whatever they need to without interference.
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Damn, in JD's instance we could argue for his parents, but here I don't think it applies nearly as much.
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United States12607 Posts
You have to wonder how in touch with the SC scene these players' parents are...things like Jaedong's father saying he didn't expect his son to win the OSL Finals (politeness or not, that's ridiculous) and Go.go's parents demanding he be paid as well as Light or Mind (who are both significantly better, more accomplished, and higher-profile players) are very unsettling. It's common knowledge that parents are awful at gauging the abilities of their own children, and this makes them an obstacle to reasonable contracts.
The big picture here is that KeSPA's rules that a) parents must approve contracts and b) players are not allowed agents are awful. Essentially these rules make parents into agents...it's ridiculous for KeSPA to say "you cannot have an informed professional advise you or assist you with contract negotiations, but instead any contract you sign must be approved by two questionably competent people whose judgments are compromised by a massive conflict of interest".
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Belgium9942 Posts
expect to see go.go bming wemade players in hite vs wemade next proleague
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In these situations I sometimes wish Korean parents were like some American parents
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This is weird, but we dont have the details of the offer.. maybe it was low but he doesnt deserves what Mind or light are winning. And the parents make the decision by the stupid rule of Kespa for not allow agents (they really know how to negotiate)
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nice. after looking at those new maps, sparkyz are gonna need another terran next proleague. i hope they don't lowball him too bad and keep things happy.
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On August 29 2009 02:31 RaGe wrote: expect to see go.go bming wemade players in hite vs wemade next proleague
can't wait for this.
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Lol this is such b/s... would someone please punch Kespa in the face!!!
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Honestly who the hell would want go.go on their team? Even if he is a mediocre terran player he has zero charisma.
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On August 29 2009 02:36 _K_ wrote: In these situations I sometimes wish Korean parents were like some American parents
i kinda wish kespa and FA was you know FREE, but its actually limited and debilitating. kinda wish it was like FA in the usa.
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The parents + FA combo strikes again. This would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic.
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konadora
Singapore66064 Posts
On August 29 2009 02:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Honestly who the hell would want go.go on their team? Even if he is a mediocre terran player he has zero charisma. Have you spoken to OSWater yet
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same pay as mind? =DDDDDD Wowwww those parents need to follow the scene a little. He still has a MSL gold and can compete against top players. Sure, go.go can cheese sometimes, but yeah...
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United States47024 Posts
On August 29 2009 02:30 JWD wrote: The big picture here is that KeSPA's rules that a) parents must approve contracts and b) players are not allowed agents are awful. Essentially these rules make parents into agents...it's ridiculous for KeSPA to say "you cannot have an informed professional advise you or assist you with contract negotiations, but instead any contract you sign must be approved by two questionably competent people whose judgments are compromised by a massive conflict of interest". This.
Honestly, as bad as these parents may seem right now, you have to realize that without agents, forcing players to negotiate on their own would be WORSE. If Jaedong's parents hadn't stepped in, it would be entirely possible that Jaedong would still be playing for Hwaseung for 70M KRW a year, which is a joke.
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On August 29 2009 02:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Honestly who the hell would want go.go on their team? Even if he is a mediocre terran player he has zero charisma. I really really don't like go.go, but I'd say he'd make a decent addition to most teams as a second string Terran player. People have previously mentioned that NaDa isn't really a PL player for FOX now, and his retirement may be coming soon, Mind has been slumping, and BaBy is inexperienced, so go.go could have been a decent choice for one of the two Terrans FOX will most likely be using.
On August 29 2009 02:50 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2009 02:30 JWD wrote: The big picture here is that KeSPA's rules that a) parents must approve contracts and b) players are not allowed agents are awful. Essentially these rules make parents into agents...it's ridiculous for KeSPA to say "you cannot have an informed professional advise you or assist you with contract negotiations, but instead any contract you sign must be approved by two questionably competent people whose judgments are compromised by a massive conflict of interest". This. Honestly, as bad as these parents may seem right now, you have to realize that without agents, forcing players to negotiate on their own would be WORSE. If Jaedong's parents hadn't stepped in, it would be entirely possible that Jaedong would still be playing for Hwaseung for 70M KRW a year, which is a joke. I was under the impression Jaedong WAS still playing for that? I thought he had to settle for whatever Oz gives him now?
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United States47024 Posts
On August 29 2009 02:52 littlechava wrote: I was under the impression Jaedong WAS still playing for that? I thought he had to settle for whatever Oz gives him now? That or retire. I haven't seen anything saying one way or the other yet.
Still, I doubt that Hwaseung has the balls to offer him such an insultingly low salary right now, especially with this issue in everyone's minds. At worst, JD will probably get the 140M salary originally offered.
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This is so ridiculous. They should be allowed agents, and agents that are knowledgeable in the scene. Artosis: interested in a new career path?
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