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On August 29 2009 05:55 benjammin wrote:
i dunno, i think go.go is justified there. what has mind/light done recently? i'd say go.go is in that class of players who are capable of beating almost anyone in a proleague game but can't pull it together for the starleagues at the moment, GET THAT MONEY SON
Light raped all year, but unfortunately got cocky vs yarnc in the msl, and somehow lost to 815 in the osl wild card. Light and Mind are on a tier above gogo, and Light definitely had the results this year to back it up.
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go.go is 21 and his parents are still telling him what to do? im so glad i dont live in korea
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On August 29 2009 06:08 iamho wrote:
go.go is 21 and his parents are still telling him what to do? im so glad i dont live in korea
closest thing he has to an agent......
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On August 29 2009 06:04 mog87 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2009 05:55 benjammin wrote:
i dunno, i think go.go is justified there. what has mind/light done recently? i'd say go.go is in that class of players who are capable of beating almost anyone in a proleague game but can't pull it together for the starleagues at the moment, GET THAT MONEY SON Light raped all year, but unfortunately got cocky vs yarnc in the msl, and somehow lost to 815 in the osl wild card. Light and Mind are on a tier above gogo, and Light definitely had the results this year to back it up.
How the hell is Light a "tier above go.go"?
You know that Go.go actually made a starleague this season right?
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light definitely plays better than go.go, at least in PL. its not like teams really care about SLs.
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light's at 57% win pct for 09, gogo is at 52%, both don't have a great deal of quality wins or any real starleague impact, i'd say that's roughly equivalent, you could argue light plays harder opponents since he's the only player on mbc playing well these days
however, light's tvt win against fantasy is one of the best games of the year (imo) and is playing well recently
i can't see how they are THAT far apart in terms of value, if go.go's parents set light's salary as their goal and negotiated down, i think that'd be smart
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Light does better in PL with a combined 36-17 against go.go's measly 14-15, but go.go's done better in SLs recently. Okay, teams care about PL more so Light has the advantage there. But go.go has done better than mind everywhere recently.
Mind didn't make it out of either qualifier, losing to Miso and Hyun, and has only won against scrubs in PL. Performance-wise, go.go should be paid around the same money that Mind is.
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Light is the one player that keeps mbc from being another estro or something. go.go was on hite and even with the variety of excellent practice partners, he was not that big of a deal in proleague. No offense, but he got into the ro16 by beating Juni (lol) and a slumping luxury.
Light was eliminated by yarnc who reached the finals, not much to complain about there.
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On August 29 2009 02:26 ghostWriter wrote:
Why are Korean parents so demanding? It's ridiculous, just let their kids do whatever they need to without interference.
????? Wouldnt u want your son to make alot of money and get the most benefits for what he is worth?
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This situation and JD's are why parents can be good for you (if they want a reasonable salary and you're being undercut).... or very very bad for you (if they demand waaaaaaaay too much) as agents. Banning agents = fail.
KeSPAs rules are a joke again..... and again..... and again. 
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On August 29 2009 02:30 JWD wrote:
You have to wonder how in touch with the SC scene these players' parents are...things like Jaedong's father saying he didn't expect his son to win the OSL Finals (politeness or not, that's ridiculous) and Go.go's parents demanding he be paid as well as Light or Mind (who are both significantly better, more accomplished, and higher-profile players) are very unsettling. It's common knowledge that parents are awful at gauging the abilities of their own children, and this makes them an obstacle to reasonable contracts.
The big picture here is that KeSPA's rules that a) parents must approve contracts and b) players are not allowed agents are awful. Essentially these rules make parents into agents...it's ridiculous for KeSPA to say "you cannot have an informed professional advise you or assist you with contract negotiations, but instead any contract you sign must be approved by two questionably competent people whose judgments are compromised by a massive conflict of interest".
So true, so true.
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On August 29 2009 06:40 roronoe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2009 02:30 JWD wrote:
You have to wonder how in touch with the SC scene these players' parents are...things like Jaedong's father saying he didn't expect his son to win the OSL Finals (politeness or not, that's ridiculous) and Go.go's parents demanding he be paid as well as Light or Mind (who are both significantly better, more accomplished, and higher-profile players) are very unsettling. It's common knowledge that parents are awful at gauging the abilities of their own children, and this makes them an obstacle to reasonable contracts.
The big picture here is that KeSPA's rules that a) parents must approve contracts and b) players are not allowed agents are awful. Essentially these rules make parents into agents...it's ridiculous for KeSPA to say "you cannot have an informed professional advise you or assist you with contract negotiations, but instead any contract you sign must be approved by two questionably competent people whose judgments are compromised by a massive conflict of interest". So true, so true.
you have to remember about korean laws, maybe KeSpa is just following what the korean laws dictate about underage players.
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To everyone blaming "parents" : how old are you ?
Can't wait to see when you get childs and how you'll perform...
Don't blame them so hard, you need to understand that some of them just want the best for their childs. Even if they fail.
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Wow, this is a bad and a good thing both at the same time, not every time he plays Fox he will try his hardest to demolish them, but at the same time he has a year of not being a pro to overcome. That is if he doesnt get signed.
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this has been the worst free agency ever. i was really hoping to see teams with totally different rosters next season, but it looks like everyone will remain where they are except the few that retired.
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On August 29 2009 06:11 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2009 06:04 mog87 wrote:On August 29 2009 05:55 benjammin wrote:
i dunno, i think go.go is justified there. what has mind/light done recently? i'd say go.go is in that class of players who are capable of beating almost anyone in a proleague game but can't pull it together for the starleagues at the moment, GET THAT MONEY SON Light raped all year, but unfortunately got cocky vs yarnc in the msl, and somehow lost to 815 in the osl wild card. Light and Mind are on a tier above gogo, and Light definitely had the results this year to back it up. How the hell is Light a "tier above go.go"? You know that Go.go actually made a starleague this season right?
there is a reason why light is known as super terran
yes he may fuck up at times but overall he is a better terran than go.go
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On August 29 2009 06:33 SanguineToss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2009 02:26 ghostWriter wrote:
Why are Korean parents so demanding? It's ridiculous, just let their kids do whatever they need to without interference. ????? Wouldnt u want your son to make alot of money and get the most benefits for what he is worth?
yes, because semi-progamers make so much money
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On August 29 2009 02:26 ghostWriter wrote:
Why are Korean parents so demanding? It's ridiculous, just let their kids do whatever they need to without interference.
I believe the real question is "Why is Kespa so demanding?"
Although I do agree that gogo's parents don't really understand that he is not up up par with Mind/Light and thus does not deserve their salary.
I don't think JD's parents were too demanding I just think they understood how important he is/how he is sacrificing his education.
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gogo is worth nowhere near that much money
stupid parents
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