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[News] go.go FAILS to negotiate with WeMade

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-29 14:29:24
August 28 2009 17:24 GMT
#1
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Source: - Fomos

Main reason by WeMade was cited as saying that go.go was fine with the contract, but his parents wanted go.go to receive a salary that was equivalent to MBCGame's Light or WeMade FOX's Mind. In addition to that, with Mind and NaDa in WeMade FOX, it was uncertain whether go.go can become the team's ace Terran player, and along with the burden of playing in a new team, the negotiations failed in the end.

Go.go now has 4 days (28th to 31st) to negotiate with Hite and to get back into his team. If he succeeds in getting back into his team, he can play as normal but should be fail to do so, he will have to become a semi-pro for a year and wait for the next year's FA season.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 28 2009 17:25 GMT
#2
Lol, parents foil FA again.
Jaedong
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
August 28 2009 17:26 GMT
#3
Why are Korean parents so demanding? It's ridiculous, just let their kids do whatever they need to without interference.
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King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
August 28 2009 17:26 GMT
#4
Damn, in JD's instance we could argue for his parents, but here I don't think it applies nearly as much.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-28 17:36:44
August 28 2009 17:30 GMT
#5
You have to wonder how in touch with the SC scene these players' parents are...things like Jaedong's father saying he didn't expect his son to win the OSL Finals (politeness or not, that's ridiculous) and Go.go's parents demanding he be paid as well as Light or Mind (who are both significantly better, more accomplished, and higher-profile players) are very unsettling. It's common knowledge that parents are awful at gauging the abilities of their own children, and this makes them an obstacle to reasonable contracts.

The big picture here is that KeSPA's rules that a) parents must approve contracts and b) players are not allowed agents are awful. Essentially these rules make parents into agents...it's ridiculous for KeSPA to say "you cannot have an informed professional advise you or assist you with contract negotiations, but instead any contract you sign must be approved by two questionably competent people whose judgments are compromised by a massive conflict of interest".
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
August 28 2009 17:31 GMT
#6
expect to see go.go bming wemade players in hite vs wemade next proleague
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_K_
Profile Joined August 2009
United States14 Posts
August 28 2009 17:36 GMT
#7
In these situations I sometimes wish Korean parents were like some American parents
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
August 28 2009 17:36 GMT
#8
This is weird, but we dont have the details of the offer.. maybe it was low but he doesnt deserves what Mind or light are winning.
And the parents make the decision by the stupid rule of Kespa for not allow agents (they really know how to negotiate)
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mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
August 28 2009 17:37 GMT
#9
nice. after looking at those new maps, sparkyz are gonna need another terran next proleague. i hope they don't lowball him too bad and keep things happy.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 28 2009 17:37 GMT
#10
On August 29 2009 02:31 RaGe wrote:
expect to see go.go bming wemade players in hite vs wemade next proleague


can't wait for this.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
August 28 2009 17:38 GMT
#11
Lol this is such b/s... would someone please punch Kespa in the face!!!
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 28 2009 17:40 GMT
#12
Honestly who the hell would want go.go on their team? Even if he is a mediocre terran player he has zero charisma.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 28 2009 17:41 GMT
#13
On August 29 2009 02:36 _K_ wrote:
In these situations I sometimes wish Korean parents were like some American parents


i kinda wish kespa and FA was you know FREE, but its actually limited and debilitating. kinda wish it was like FA in the usa.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 28 2009 17:43 GMT
#14
The parents + FA combo strikes again. This would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
August 28 2009 17:47 GMT
#15
On August 29 2009 02:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Honestly who the hell would want go.go on their team? Even if he is a mediocre terran player he has zero charisma.

Have you spoken to OSWater yet
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 28 2009 17:49 GMT
#16
same pay as mind? =DDDDDD Wowwww those parents need to follow the scene a little. He still has a MSL gold and can compete against top players. Sure, go.go can cheese sometimes, but yeah...
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 28 2009 17:50 GMT
#17
On August 29 2009 02:30 JWD wrote:
The big picture here is that KeSPA's rules that a) parents must approve contracts and b) players are not allowed agents are awful. Essentially these rules make parents into agents...it's ridiculous for KeSPA to say "you cannot have an informed professional advise you or assist you with contract negotiations, but instead any contract you sign must be approved by two questionably competent people whose judgments are compromised by a massive conflict of interest".

This.

Honestly, as bad as these parents may seem right now, you have to realize that without agents, forcing players to negotiate on their own would be WORSE. If Jaedong's parents hadn't stepped in, it would be entirely possible that Jaedong would still be playing for Hwaseung for 70M KRW a year, which is a joke.
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
August 28 2009 17:52 GMT
#18
On August 29 2009 02:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Honestly who the hell would want go.go on their team? Even if he is a mediocre terran player he has zero charisma.

I really really don't like go.go, but I'd say he'd make a decent addition to most teams as a second string Terran player. People have previously mentioned that NaDa isn't really a PL player for FOX now, and his retirement may be coming soon, Mind has been slumping, and BaBy is inexperienced, so go.go could have been a decent choice for one of the two Terrans FOX will most likely be using.
On August 29 2009 02:50 TheYango wrote:
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On August 29 2009 02:30 JWD wrote:
The big picture here is that KeSPA's rules that a) parents must approve contracts and b) players are not allowed agents are awful. Essentially these rules make parents into agents...it's ridiculous for KeSPA to say "you cannot have an informed professional advise you or assist you with contract negotiations, but instead any contract you sign must be approved by two questionably competent people whose judgments are compromised by a massive conflict of interest".

This.

Honestly, as bad as these parents may seem right now, you have to realize that without agents, forcing players to negotiate on their own would be WORSE. If Jaedong's parents hadn't stepped in, it would be entirely possible that Jaedong would still be playing for Hwaseung for 70M KRW a year, which is a joke.

I was under the impression Jaedong WAS still playing for that? I thought he had to settle for whatever Oz gives him now?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 28 2009 17:56 GMT
#19
On August 29 2009 02:52 littlechava wrote:
I was under the impression Jaedong WAS still playing for that? I thought he had to settle for whatever Oz gives him now?

That or retire. I haven't seen anything saying one way or the other yet.

Still, I doubt that Hwaseung has the balls to offer him such an insultingly low salary right now, especially with this issue in everyone's minds. At worst, JD will probably get the 140M salary originally offered.
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Braintricks
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
137 Posts
August 28 2009 17:56 GMT
#20
This is so ridiculous. They should be allowed agents, and agents that are knowledgeable in the scene. Artosis: interested in a new career path?
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