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Math Problem #2 (Number Theory)
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pat777
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Solinren
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QuickStriker
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That being said, give me several hours and I'll try to see if I have an answer... | ||
Archaic
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mikeymoo
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Avidkeystamper
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Cheeseball
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The only answer is when x=1 y=1 and x=-1 y=1 If x=0 then y=(1/4)^(1/3) If x is negative, its the same as being positive because its squared If x=2 y=(13/4)^(1/3) ---- not integer If x=3 y=7^(1/3) ---- not integer Because y is cubed, it cannot have any other integer values that match the equation. You would need (3x^2+1)/4 to be either 0,1,8,27,64,125, etc. None of those values lead to an integer x value | ||
Muirhead
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It's easy to see that x must be odd. Set x=2m+1 and simplify to get 3m^2+3m+1=y^3. We recognize that 3m^2+3m+1=(m+1)^3-m^3, which is the tricky step. The equation is equivalent to y^3+m^3=(m+1)^3. By the special case of Fermat's Last Theorem when the exponent is 3, we see that m=0 and y=1 or m=-1 and y=1. Thus the only solutions to the original question are x=1,y=1 and x=-1,y=1 | ||
oshibori_probe
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B1nary
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I guess it's sort of interesting that the solution involve's Fermat's last theorem. So before they started proving the special cases with computers, we, technically, wouldn't have a proof. Or is there another solution that doesn't involve FLT? | ||
Muirhead
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+ Show Spoiler + The special case of FLT with exponent 3 is quite easy compared to the general result: It was first proven by Euler centuries ago | ||
evanthebouncy!
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numLoCK
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Just a question, what level math is this? | ||
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moriya
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+ Show Spoiler + The only solution is (-1,1) and (1,1). Easy to get x is odd,so let x=2z+1 and do some algebra: y^3=3z^2+3z+1=(z+1)^3-z^3. Look at the above Eq. again and recall FLT, the only solution is y=0//impossible or z=0//(1,1) solution or (z+1)=0//(-1,1) solution. Hope it is clear. | ||
moriya
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He is the first solver. | ||
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On July 06 2009 11:36 Archaic wrote: Also, don't try to pretend you're quizzing us when it is probably just a question straight out of your Summer HW. I know the guy personally I doubt he's asking you to do his homework for him, he's more of a math enthusiast as given by his major and school he's attending. | ||
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