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konadora
Singapore66064 Posts
KeSPA changes 'ppp' rule.
KeSPA has revealed that they are changing their rules regarding pausing the game.
After a meeting held on the 7th of May to discuss the 'pp' incident regarding Leta which occurred on the 28th of April, they have decided to change the rules.
Between Section 8 and 13 of the rules, which are related to pausing the game, section 8 remains unchanged while section 13, which states that typing anything other than 'ppp' resulting in a disqualification was removed.
The new rule was take place starting from the Bacchus OSL Round of 36, Group 2, which will be held on the 8th of May (friday).
▶ Section 8, Game pause based on player's request ◆ Before change In the situations described below, the players can type 'p' multiple times to request for a pause. (But when there is a problem with a keyboard the game can be paused immediately). Under the referee's command "Pause", the game can be paused. What happens to the game is depending on the referee's judgment.
8.11 Misc - When situations occur which cause the game to work out differently than before the start of the game (graphic, lag, system problems, etc)
◆ After change In the situations described below, the players can type 'p' multiple times as well as any other keys to request for a pause. (But when there is a problem with a keyboard the game can be paused immediately). Under the referee's command "Pause", the game can be paused. What happens to the game is depending on the referee's judgment.
8.11 Misc - When a situation which affects gameplay based on the player's judgment occurs.
▶ Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss ◆ Before change Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. If the player types anything other than 'ppp (game pause request)' or the aforementioned declarations to declare acceptance of loss, it will result in a disqualification and a warning (with effect from 11th April 2009)
◆ After change Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009)
Source: Fomos.kr
On May 09 2009 15:16 Smix wrote: Poor leta.
netizens agree: - i feel so fucking bad for leta... - wow WTF are you fucking kidding me you bastards? hahahhahhahahaa.. wow, leta just became the victim here you fucking crazy bastards... you should have made the rules properly from the start what the fuck do you guys do right anyway????????????? - ge-spa just shoves a shitload of money up their ass while they do nothing. - what are you going to do about leta ge-spa!!!!!!! fuck, i'm starting to curse... - what are you going to do about leta.. what are you going to do about leta who is shocked and heavily affected because of this... - kespa work is easier than being a reporter - this announcement will just make leta cry twice.
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Great! They should issue a formal apology to Leta though hahah
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konadora
Singapore66064 Posts
They should make another Hite vs STX, same map, same players.
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This is just addressing a symptom, not the root problem. I presume the ridiculous situation and the backlash from Korean fans caused them to take this step, but unfortunately (from my point of view) they really haven't re-thought how to make Starcraft more popular.
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It's nice to see KESPA admit their stupidity publicly.
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konadora
Singapore66064 Posts
On May 08 2009 23:44 Tyrant wrote: It's nice to see KESPA admit their stupidity publicly. Oh no they didn't admit. No official statement saying 'sorry, we were retards'.
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konadora
Singapore66064 Posts
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On May 08 2009 23:41 Zona wrote: This is just addressing a symptom, not the root problem. I presume the ridiculous situation and the backlash from Korean fans caused them to take this step, but unfortunately (from my point of view) they really haven't re-thought how to make Starcraft more popular.
even after what has been done Leta will still be pp-terran
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United States1719 Posts
They owe Leta and Sparkyz an apology I hope judge Chang got fired
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Netizen anger aint nothing to fuck with! I'm sure they realised they'd be losing viewers if they kept on making up stupid rules.
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Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009
Does that even mean anything? If your accepting your loss you've already lost and a DQ wouldn't change the actual result.....
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konadora
Singapore66064 Posts
On May 08 2009 23:58 naonao wrote:Show nested quote +Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009 Does that even mean anything? If your accepting your loss you've already lost and a DQ wouldn't change the actual result..... The DQ will result in the game "not being counted in the official record of the player" but "will still be counted in the official record of the map the game was played on". Which I say it's a good thing. Keep doing that for every game you're going to lose since your debut, and you'll have 100% win rate for the rest of your life.
If only I could do that on ICCup. I'll be number 1 in Singapore for sure.
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United States1719 Posts
On May 09 2009 00:01 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2009 23:58 naonao wrote:Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009 Does that even mean anything? If your accepting your loss you've already lost and a DQ wouldn't change the actual result..... The DQ will result in the game "not being counted in the official record of the player" but "will still be counted in the official record of the map the game was played on". Which I say it's a good thing. Keep doing that for every game you're going to lose since your debut, and you'll have 100% win rate for the rest of your life. If only I could do that on ICCup. I'll be number 1 in Singapore for sure.
I believe it's actually the reverse. It counts towards the official record of the player, but will NOT count in the official record of the map the game was played on.
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konadora
Singapore66064 Posts
On May 09 2009 00:07 rotinegg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2009 00:01 konadora wrote:On May 08 2009 23:58 naonao wrote:Section 13, Declaration of acceptance of loss Only 'gg (lower casing in English), GG (caps in English)' will be accepted as declarations of acceptance of loss. Typing anything else to declare acceptance of loss will result in a disqualification and a warning. (With effect from 11th April 2009 Does that even mean anything? If your accepting your loss you've already lost and a DQ wouldn't change the actual result..... The DQ will result in the game "not being counted in the official record of the player" but "will still be counted in the official record of the map the game was played on". Which I say it's a good thing. Keep doing that for every game you're going to lose since your debut, and you'll have 100% win rate for the rest of your life. If only I could do that on ICCup. I'll be number 1 in Singapore for sure. I believe it's actually the reverse. It counts towards the official record of the player, but will NOT count in the official record of the map the game was played on. They said what I mentioned in one of the matches (I think I said this in a LR thread). Unless I'm starting to have problems with my ear or my mind is going haywire.
I'll just double check to be sure, dunno where I can though
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United States1719 Posts
yea lol i just looked through kespa's rulebook cuz im not too sure either, but I can't find it. I'm pretty sure that's what I heard though
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From the changed wording, can players chat in game if they feel like? (There's no limits on anything besides conceding defeat)
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United States12607 Posts
Sounds like a step in the right direction from KeSPA. Unfortunately, the rule system needs bigger changes. For example, the "gg" rule is still nonsensical and unnecessary - it doesn't even address the problem it was created to solve.
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konadora
Singapore66064 Posts
On May 09 2009 00:15 Nevuk wrote: From the changed wording, can players chat in game if they feel like? (There's no limits on anything besides conceding defeat)
I think there are other rules not mentioned in this article that forbids that. I think it was made after that game involving Boxer on Forte about how he said his base was small, and his opponent starting checking madly for a proxy.
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